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simon85
16-11-2007, 11:31 AM
Any of you guys had problems buying some insulin without a script? Can they asked some questions? And how much cost humalog in Canada?

Thanks

Bowlcut
16-11-2007, 11:32 AM
Log costs about $35 for a vial and all I did was ask them for a vial and some syringes and should be no problem. Some stores might be a pain but then just walk down the block to the next one.

leeroy
16-11-2007, 11:33 AM
Yep. If one won't give it to you, another will.

simon85
16-11-2007, 11:43 AM
Awesome. Thanks for the info guys.

Bowlcut
16-11-2007, 12:15 PM
Make sure you have your shit together before you take slin.

simon85
16-11-2007, 12:27 PM
Make sure you have your shit together before you take slin.

Yes, of course. Injection than 3 scoops of whey and 100g of carbs(dex)

1.5h later: High carbs, high proteins, zero-super low fat meal

2h later: High carbs, high proteins, zero-super low fat meal.

I will have fruits near me if I go hypo


1-6 tren ace 100mg/eod
1-7 dbol 40mg/ed
1-8 test prop 200mg/eod
1-8 hcg 2X250iu/weekly
1-8 arimidex .5mg/eod
1-8 humalog PW only

azian257
16-11-2007, 01:06 PM
looks good, how much IU you taking? 10 I presume, if you are going by the 10g/iu rule. You could probably tweak it a little to see how much you need. I find 6-7g dex/iu works best for me.

simon85
16-11-2007, 01:25 PM
looks good, how much IU you taking? 10 I presume, if you are going by the 10g/iu rule. You could probably tweak it a little to see how much you need. I find 6-7g dex/iu works best for me.

thanks for the reply! It's my first time with slin. So I will begin with 2-3iu and working my way up to 10iu

Bowlcut
16-11-2007, 02:52 PM
I would suggest that you include fat in your 2nd post workout feeding. Doesn't have to be much but ensure you don't fall trap to the no fat craze.

My advice is to also keep some dextrose tabs on handy.

simon85
16-11-2007, 04:43 PM
I would suggest that you include fat in your 2nd post workout feeding. Doesn't have to be much but ensure you don't fall trap to the no fat craze.

My advice is to also keep some dextrose tabs on handy.

excellent!

Thanks everyone.

-Simon

Mr Ontario
16-11-2007, 09:30 PM
I get my slin for free~ :)

mcgee
16-11-2007, 11:52 PM
ya, u can claim on health benifits.
also u can buy in bulk on some online canadian pharmacies, unless your scared of someone seeing it in your fridge haha

Bowlcut
17-11-2007, 10:31 AM
ya, u can claim on health benifits.
also u can buy in bulk on some online canadian pharmacies, unless your scared of someone seeing it in your fridge haha

don't you need a special receipt though? I just got a normal receipt for my slin unlike the official looking ones for when one has a script.

tarnow
17-11-2007, 12:40 PM
Good info guys. I never knew any of this. Who knew you can get slin OTC.

Bowlcut
17-11-2007, 01:51 PM
Good info guys. I never knew any of this. Who knew you can get slin OTC.

Slin is OTC because it is one of those drugs that is life and death and is usually not abused but individuals.

mcgee
17-11-2007, 04:53 PM
i don't use benifits to pay for it for personal resons, but know guys that do and they are not diabetics. Most benifit packages pay 100% for all diabetic supplies

Mr Ontario
17-11-2007, 06:52 PM
Ya...just a matter of convincing your doctor that your diabetic so he can write you a prescription for it....not sure you would do that though?


i don't use benifits to pay for it for personal resons, but know guys that do and they are not diabetics. Most benifit packages pay 100% for all diabetic supplies

simon85
17-11-2007, 09:22 PM
I'm confused. I was reading a sticky on steroid.com and he was saying we should use slin IM not subq.

"
The use of Insulin for bodybuilding purposes
There are a few types of insulin available to the public, these I feel are the only ones that apply for our needs.
Humalin R*, Duration ~10-12 hours, peaks at 3rd hour until the 5th hour
Humalog* Duration ~6 hours, peaks at 80min to 120 min.
Nolvalog, Just a different maker of a fast acting insulin, same times as humalog.
Few notes, Duration is the amount of time the chemical is active.
Peak time, is the time in which you have the highest level of the chemical in the blood (2)

*This is for subcutaneous (subc, or subq) injections... we as body builders do not use insulin this way. We should and need to shoot intramuscularly (IM) see below.

Knowing what you know about the duration and peak times of humalog shot subcutaneous. Below is a graph to represent how humalog shot IM affects the blood glucose levels.

T= -5 is post w/o before insulin
T=0 is 10IU Humalog IM into left bicep
T= 5 is BG prior to my ingesting 85g of dextrose, 5g of glutamine and 7g of creatine
T=35 is BG prior to ingesting 80g of whey
T=105 is BG prior to 25g of dextrose and 150g of chicken breasts
After 150min past an IM Humalog injection, the BG remains stable"

what's your point of view?

Bowlcut
18-11-2007, 01:47 PM
IM is dumb as the slin will get absorbed quicker and put you into a state of hypoclycemia much quicker.

I have only used slin with GH and IGF-1 and I follow GK's protocol with GH and IGF-1 immediately PWO, and then 15 minutes later I pin log sub q.

Read GK's stuff, but I personally stay away from that board now. No good visiting a place the LE is bound to be hanging out all the time.

10 grams of carbs per IU of slin is a good idea as it is playin it safe, and Log is probably the best for a novice.
My advice is only use slin if you have a good 4 hours that you can plan your day around it. I only use it when I know I have no commitments because I focus most of my time cooking, eating, and cleaning up after I pin.

simon85
18-11-2007, 09:34 PM
cool thank you. I just purchased humalog. 31$, no question at all.

Mr.Freeze
18-11-2007, 10:12 PM
Famili-prix!:D

simon85
18-11-2007, 10:39 PM
Non, c'est jean coutu :-P

Mr.Freeze
19-11-2007, 12:26 AM
lol:D

Bowlcut
19-11-2007, 03:33 PM
Non, c'est jean coutu :-P

je detestent a celles morons. ils voulaient pas me vendre pins.

Mr.Freeze
19-11-2007, 05:52 PM
je detestent a celles morons. ils voulaient pas me vendre pins.

i dont get it?

mcgee
19-11-2007, 08:25 PM
booga wooga

Bowlcut
19-11-2007, 08:43 PM
i dont get it?

i try my best to write french. pense k sui un albertan typique

simon85
20-11-2007, 01:11 AM
Read GK's stuff



Thanks man. I learned alot of stuff from him on professional muscle. His board seem to be closed.

Thanks,

-Simon

Mr.Freeze
20-11-2007, 01:19 AM
i try my best to write french. pense k sui un albertan typique

Thats better!:D

simon85
22-11-2007, 10:42 AM
Thats better!:D

I'm banned from a Jean Coutu.

I came back again to buy more pins. The pharmacist said: "We all know the reason behind those syringes. So I refuse to sell you anything here. Good luck"

So I said: "I'll be back"

I went to the other drugstore right in front. I bought 30 pinz. I came back to show him my purchase. He wasn't smiling anymore. Then I asked him where band-aids are.


HAHAHA!

Mr.Freeze
22-11-2007, 12:50 PM
nice thats good for him!:D

Bowlcut
22-11-2007, 04:36 PM
I'm banned from a Jean Coutu.

I came back again to buy more pins. The pharmacist said: "We all know the reason behind those syringes. So I refuse to sell you anything here. Good luck"

So I said: "I'll be back"

I went to the other drugstore right in front. I bought 30 pinz. I came back to show him my purchase. He wasn't smiling anymore. Then I asked him where band-aids are.


HAHAHA!

JC is a bunch of fools. Why would they not want responsible use of syringes to prevent infection is beyond me!

simon85
24-11-2007, 07:49 PM
O/T but...

Someone sent me a link where you can send insults by email with pictures.

In the general section, on the 3rd page, you can see Kamali labeled as "steroid master". Lol!

http://www.ciboire.com/cartes/carte-128.jpg

http://www.ciboire.com

Mr.Freeze
24-11-2007, 11:54 PM
i dont think alot of people understand whats written on the signe Calisse c pas evident pour eux :D