First one?

[MacNasty]

The contenders: Anavar or Halodrol clone what say yee? Something mild to test the waters. Nothing planned yet, been reading for a while and both sound like a nice mild intro. Do not know much about T-bols any ideas on them either?

Not much time to write now will update later, thanks for any ideas.

[Ritch]

[QUOTE=MacNasty;215510 been reading for a while

Not much time to write now will update later, thanks for any ideas.[/QUOTE]

My idea to you is to keep reading...

[spiderman7]

Think Ritch has it right! Why bother going down that route of using a Oral only. If its fear of the needle then read on and eventually you will feel confident enough to take the plunge.

[nitrous]

halo and mild? i dont get it lol

[spiderman7]

halo and mild? i dont get it lol

Halodrol(h-50,h-drol.) is a prohormone of oral t. And yes they are considered to be mild.

[nitrous]

Halodrol(h-50,h-drol.) is a prohormone of oral t. And yes they are considered to be mild.

ahh sounds weak then.. i was thinking halostein...

Var out of the mix he suggested..

[MacNasty]

Sorry about that first post I thought I had enough time to write it but I ended up having to leave quickly so I guess it came off as a dumbass/halfassed post. I will try to fix it...

I have been reading fitness/bodybuilding sites and journals for a few years now and I have read several steroid journals and info about pinning. I am by no means an expert but I am not an idiot either. My reasoning behind the mild oral only suggestions is that throughout all my reading I have found that to take that step over to the other side is a very serious one. Some journals ended up great, some sounded like very unpleasant experiences. There were even some people who had a few stellar journals only to disappear for a while and then return to say that they will never do steroids anymore. Thopse journals worried me the most because many of those guys sounded prepared, sounded ready and actually pulled off a few successful cycles only to come back and say they really had many, psychological, biological, emotional or relationship problems that occurred, in their opinion, due to their use. These logs were the minority for sure but they definitely got me weighing potential pro's & cons in my head.

For that reason I thought maybe just a small taste of what a normal cycle would feel like should suffice. Maybe I won't experience the same highs but I am hoping that the lows will be lessened due to the mildness of the compounds I mentioned. I guess I was thinking of it as a cycle with training wheels, or maybe I am just a pussy lol.

Anyways from what I have gathered regarding and oral only cycle as being a bad idea I thought that was due mostly to hepatoxicity and ability to maintain gains. I would think the 3 compounds listed (Anavar, T-Bol, Halodrol ,yeah not halotestin, sorry lol) should minimize these factors. Are there any other big reasons why not to only run an oral? I would be thinking in the 6-8 week range depending on dosing.

Nothing has been confirmed as of yet but for anybody out there who has experience with these compounds, especially if it was standalone, please let me know any of your personal thoughts about their merit. I am thinking about things like lethargy, mood, appetite, bp issues, hair, acne, motivation, performance and gains. Any insights would be greatly appreciated.

[nitrous]

i'm goin to give you my opinion.. many will disagree with me and i bet especially the pro's will..

i ran 10 weeks of 40mg of var ED.. 20mg in the morning and 20mg in the evening before the gym.. i loved it and have zero regrets.. just read up on anavar before hand and you should know what to expect

[MacNasty]

Thanks for the input man, I really was leaning toward var I think it is a great choice for a first one for my goals (recomp/lean mass). Var was first choice, T-Bol second and Halodrol third but other factors switch that order completely. I'll keep you guys updated if I figure it out not gonna rush anything.

Anybody else care to chime in?