Started prep!

[natenator]

Well here I go! Prep has started!

I will be working with Praetorian for my prep.

First show Nov 7 in Ottawa for L1 and then onto (hopefully) London on Nov 21 for L2.

I may or may not post pics/do a log of this. We'll see how much time I have but will more than likely do some during the process as I have to do weekly's anyway.

Weighed in at a sloppy 298 (lol) but will leave no stone unturned to be the most conditioned guy on stage.

Thanks to Praetorian for working with me!

[L3]

Looking forward to the log big N.

mind posting your diet? im assuming it will be a keto variant

[natenator]

Looking forward to the log big N.

mind posting your diet? im assuming it will be a keto variant
I'm not going to post diet, training or supplements for the reason that I don't think it would be fair to Praetorian for me to do so. Sorry dude.

It is strict keto.

I will say he is very thorough and professional. What sold me on him was his knowledge in the posts he write, the other competitors he works with and from meeting him in London at the Ontario Championships.

He's a class act.

[gustavo77]

Good luck bro and i will be following your progress. What BF% are you starting at??

[BAM]

Looking forward to the pics so I can :ji

:ilu

[O-Train]

I'm doing a show Nov 14th. We can be diet buddies. Post up some starting pics (if ya feel like it), can't look any worse than mine!

[steve_d]

I might compete in this show to. Although still waiting for all the cbbf ontario stuff to go through before I make my choice.

Nate, this show is open class...can't imagine standing next to someone double my weight almost!

[Houstonbc]

good luck bro, looking forward to following your progress

[Crew]

See you at the London show. Will you be in the level 1 ro level 2? Starting to diet and cardio at the end of July so bring on the pain.

[JonnyO]

Best of luck bro your in good hands. Dont let anyone diet harder than you!

[Praetorian]

I'm not going to post diet, training or supplements for the reason that I don't think it would be fair to Praetorian for me to do so. Sorry dude.

It is strict keto.

I will say he is very thorough and professional. What sold me on him was his knowledge in the posts he write, the other competitors he works with and from meeting him in London at the Ontario Championships.

He's a class act.

Thanks for the kind words. Nate has a tonne of muscle to work with so the transformation will be very interesting to say the least.
P

[ironwill]

very cool, i am interested in seeing the results....I think im going to use the same fellow next yr for my prep as well.....very knowledgeable person to have in your corner....
the key is to listen.......and learn....

[Mr Ontario]

See if I help you again :)

[ironwill]

^^^^huh?? me.........i need all the help i can....muahahaha

[Mr Ontario]

no not you, but I may have to get your girlfriend to give you a good kick swift smack in the ass for me :)


^^^^huh?? me.........i need all the help i can....muahahaha

[Delt King]

Good luck to you all...but as of right now OPA is no longer recognized by the CBBF anymore, so you really don't have to worry about level 1 or 2 etc. the shows will go on but you can't move up the levels and eventually go to the provincials and nationals etc.

CBBF Ontario also only has 1 show as of next year...so they are in dire need of promoters and shows

It should be interesting as to how things pan out.

Some say OPA will be reinstated but I just got an Email a few minutes ago and i doubt it.

Rumor has it maybe the other organizations like WBFF and UFE or IDFA will be used as level 1-2-3 shows. But that is only rumors at this point.

[BAM]

I'll likely be at the ottawa show.

[Sean Summers]

CBBF Ontario also only has 1 show as of next year...so they are in dire need of promoters and shows

Hardly in dire need of promoters. I just sent a list of 4 potential candidates to CBBF Ontario yesterday.


Rumor has it maybe the other organizations like WBFF and UFE or IDFA will be used as level 1-2-3 shows. But that is only rumors at this point

There will be only 2 levels in Ontario - the same as the NPC and other Provinces. A Provincial qualifier and a National Qualifier.
SS

[steve_d]

CBBF Ontario also only has 1 show as of next year...so they are in dire need of promoters and shows


what show? I am pretty sure you're wrong on this one. They told me they have two in the fall (natural ones). And cbbf-ontario already has the figure nationals in missisauga...So if the one show your talking about is that one, then its a pretty big show to have confirmed. More will come.

on a side note, good luck with your prep. If I don't compete, i'll be watching the show regardless. The whole 1 class thing is starting to turn me off. Not really cbbf ontario being the issue, since the show is local and would just be for fun, not to qualify for anything further.

[drdnj]

Well here I go! Prep has started!

I will be working with Praetorian for my prep.

First show Nov 7 in Ottawa for L1 and then onto (hopefully) London on Nov 21 for L2.

I may or may not post pics/do a log of this. We'll see how much time I have but will more than likely do some during the process as I have to do weekly's anyway.

Weighed in at a sloppy 298 (lol) but will leave no stone unturned to be the most conditioned guy on stage.

Thanks to Praetorian for working with me!

Hey Nate....I doing the same plan for shows and have P helping me also! So if you don't mind I am gonna thank Praetorian too! THANKS----
AND good luck to ya bro!
D

[Felinecougar]

Good luck in your contest prep dear.

I wished I had money.....I'd bring back the Windsor Cup.

Damn it...Fouad and Lou should put their names on a local show down here.

[Big D]

good luck big guy

[natenator]

Good luck in your contest prep dear.

I wished I had money.....I'd bring back the Windsor Cup.

Damn it...Fouad and Lou should put their names on a local show down here.
Fouad is considering doing it next year.

[natenator]

Thanks for the kind words. Nate has a tonne of muscle to work with so the transformation will be very interesting to say the least.
P
thanks dude. I still feel very small for my height but whatevs.

[natenator]

Hey Nate....I doing the same plan for shows and have P helping me also! So if you don't mind I am gonna thank Praetorian too! THANKS----
AND good luck to ya bro!
D
Hey dude! Good luck on your prep! Glad to see your working with the dude as well!

[natenator]

Thanks for the well wished everyone. Training and diet is kicking my ass but am starting to adjust a little bit to the diet. Already starting to notice small changes even.

[canadianmuscle0803]

how much money would it cost to run the show?

[ironwill]

thanks dude. I still feel very small for my height but whatevs.
you will get over it, then you will be happy with what unfolds....I hated it at first, now im more stoked than ever.....
good luck guys........sounds fun

[Gemini]

Looking forward to the pics so I can :ji

:ilu

oh god.

good luck, looking forward to the pics also.

[natenator]

So some things I am noticing:

1) I cramp like a mofo on keto even when just sitting! So gonna up the sodium from salt and sugar free condiments as well as add in taurine.

2) Workouts are a bitch. I'm used to brutal workouts but P's are structured differently and adjusting to them has been interesting to say the least. Like it though.

3) Hunger in the mornings til about 1pm is unreal. Starts to ease up once I get my 3rd and 4th meals into me. My guess is the low carbs and the cardio first thing plus the fasted state which is driving the hunger.

I'm sure other things are on my mind but can't think of them right now. Off to hit up a cardio session in a bit - oh joy.

Until next time...

[Delt King]

\
Hardly in dire need of promoters. I just sent a list of 4 potential candidates to CBBF Ontario yesterday.

.
SS


"Hardly in dire need of promoters. I just sent a list of 4 potential candidates to CBBF Ontario yesterday."

Well that is good news...i hope that a show date is set ASAP for the CBBF ontario division for 2010. I figured that melanie and laura's show in TO would be the only one left as the other promoters decided to stay with the OPA.


"There will be only 2 levels in Ontario - the same as the NPC and other Provinces. A Provincial qualifier and a National Qualifier"


I think this is also a good idea ...one huge qualifier instead of all kinds of smaller shows. It raises the quality of competitors rising in the ranks. But since Ontario has more population than most of the other provinces...my guess is 2 prov. qualifiers would be better, 1 in the spring prior to provincials and 1 in the fall. Centrally located in the province...TO area most likely.

Question for Sean...did the OPA judges also jump ship and follow CBBF ontario or did they stay with the OPA.

BTW i am a national level athlete so i'm sitting on the edge of my seat to find out all the details as info is released.

[Delt King]

Sorry Nate, not trying to hijack your thread. lol

[Sean Summers]

one huge qualifier instead of all kinds of smaller shows. It raises the quality of competitors rising in the ranks. But since Ontario has more population than most of the other provinces...my guess is 2 prov. qualifiers would be better, 1 in the spring prior to provincials and 1 in the fall. Centrally located in the province...TO area most likely.

That is NOT what I said. 2 levels but NOT 2 shows. There will be several Provincial qualifiers and 1 National qualifier.


Question for Sean...did the OPA judges also jump ship and follow CBBF ontario or did they stay with the OPA.

Some stayed and some left. Judges will not be a problem. As in the past there will be room for more judges. They will have to qualify and work themselves up through the ranks. If you would like to judge please ask. I have seen people complain that there aren't any figure girls judging the shows. Why is that? Because no figure girls volunteer to be judges. In all my years of judging I have seen 1 and she is at OPA Level 2 standards (maybe Provincials but I can't recall at this moment). The group they have now is very dedicated to the sport.


I figured that melanie and laura's show in TO would be the only one left as the other promoters decided to stay with the OPA
There are other promoters who will promote the 2010 shows.

The new site should be up on Monday. I'm told it will be impressive.

SS

[hommes]

good luck with the diet, i hate dieting. the food tastes like ass, the cardio sucks. hope all goes well for you though.

[LIVEHARD]

Well here I go! Prep has started!

I will be working with Praetorian for my prep.

First show Nov 7 in Ottawa for L1 and then onto (hopefully) London on Nov 21 for L2.

I may or may not post pics/do a log of this. We'll see how much time I have but will more than likely do some during the process as I have to do weekly's anyway.

Weighed in at a sloppy 298 (lol) but will leave no stone unturned to be the most conditioned guy on stage.

Thanks to Praetorian for working with me!

Best wishes sincerely

good luck

[tex]

good luck! just so you know...I ate about 500 grams of carbs today.....tomorrow i deadlift so i'll probably take in more than that ;)

[countrychic]

Good luck Nate :) Look forward to seeing your progress through your jouney :hu

[IronRobi]

Well here I go! Prep has started!

I will be working with Praetorian for my prep.

First show Nov 7 in Ottawa for L1 and then onto (hopefully) London on Nov 21 for L2.

I may or may not post pics/do a log of this. We'll see how much time I have but will more than likely do some during the process as I have to do weekly's anyway.

Weighed in at a sloppy 298 (lol) but will leave no stone unturned to be the most conditioned guy on stage.

Thanks to Praetorian for working with me!

I'm already making plans to get the time off and head up to Ottawa for the show on the 7th. Hopefully see ya there! Good luck bro!

[natenator]

Nothing really to update. Weight 287.4lbs. Water weight coming off. Looking leaner and feeling leaner in clothes. Pushing decent weight. Hunger has been up and down but seem to be controlling it a bit by using diet coke as it helps fill up the stomach.

[z83]

pics !!! :popc2

[Big D]

weres the pics nate, you better look like your avatar :p

[natenator]

here's a quad shot. I seem to wash out in pics... need to work on tanning more I guess.

will post more randoms and other shots when I feel like it or as I progress to the point where I am happy posting pics. lol

[ubcpower]

look good, nice and proportional. I think you just have your flash/light setting on your camera on. try taking it off

[natenator]

look good, nice and proportional. I think you just have your flash/light setting on your camera on. try taking it off
thanks. I'll fool with settings when I have some spare time...lol

[gustavo77]

Starting to get separation in the tree trunks...nice work...

[JonnyO]

Good thickness on them and nice outer sweep going on too bro. How tall are you?

[natenator]

Good thickness on them and nice outer sweep going on too bro. How tall are you?
thanks dude!

I'm 6'3

[ironwill]

legs look decent, arms look a bit smaller for your size and hopefully the waist comes down to a bit smaller than your shoulder width...will give you a nice x-frame for your height...keep pushing, it does suck being tall, but you still have a lot of time to pull it together, and with prae helping should look allright...good work...

[ironwill]

holy shit jonnyo, that is incredible right there in ur avi...wowow

[St]

Your full of water,time to cut out the test it s Ottawa thing haha.;)
BTW tanning is only the last month or two,the Protan will do the trick.But ya your nice and big,you have great Quads.

[drdnj]

ENJOY your cheat meal tomorrow bro!!

[hommes]

wheels are top notch, anymore pics

[natenator]

weighed in at 282 yesterday morning down from 298 2 weeks ago when I started.

Had my cheat meal last night and with all the food I ate and distention in my stomach I weighed 281 this morning when I woke up lol

cheat meal wasn't all it was cracked up to be to be honest. I wasn't really hungry for it and wasn't really craving it but understand it to be necessary for this type of diet.

[steve_d]

weighed in at 282 yesterday morning down from 298 2 weeks ago when I started.

Had my cheat meal last night and with all the food I ate and distention in my stomach I weighed 281 this morning when I woke up lol

cheat meal wasn't all it was cracked up to be to be honest. I wasn't really hungry for it and wasn't really craving it but understand it to be necessary for this type of diet.

I don't get it, you lost a pound even with the distended stomach from the cheat meal? Should probably be in the low 270s by the end of the week if that's the case. I know if I had a decent sized cheat I would wake up at least 5 pounds heavier tomorrow - and I am only 167 to begin with!

[bigdaddydrew123]

just back on the board your quads are gonna look crazy ripped up,whens the show im too lazy to read back through the thread

[Praetorian]

I don't get it, you lost a pound even with the distended stomach from the cheat meal? Should probably be in the low 270s by the end of the week if that's the case. I know if I had a decent sized cheat I would wake up at least 5 pounds heavier tomorrow - and I am only 167 to begin with!

When you are glycogen depleted in ketosis you wont gain much weight on a single cheat meal...with the incease thyroid levels it pretty much balances things out. It is not an indication of what he will be by the end of the week what so ever.
P

[steve_d]

Not sure how much I agree - I don't react that way at all. And trust me, when I diet I am as depleted as can be. A cheat meal restores glycogen enough that the scale goes up. Water weight that is. About 10 years ago, I was as depleted as could be 2 weeks before a show, and at the time I was into doing triathlons. No way I was going to run the next day without carbing up the day before. All I ate was an extra 2000 calories and the next day I was 10 pounds heavier, the day after back to what I was before.

All I am saying is he will probably be low 270s by the end of the week. We'll see. 275 is my prediction.

[natenator]

just back on the board your quads are gonna look crazy ripped up,whens the show im too lazy to read back through the thread
Nov 7 in Ottawa!

[Praetorian]

Not sure how much I agree - I don't react that way at all. And trust me, when I diet I am as depleted as can be. A cheat meal restores glycogen enough that the scale goes up. Water weight that is. About 10 years ago, I was as depleted as could be 2 weeks before a show, and at the time I was into doing triathlons. No way I was going to run the next day without carbing up the day before. All I ate was an extra 2000 calories and the next day I was 10 pounds heavier, the day after back to what I was before.

All I am saying is he will probably be low 270s by the end of the week. We'll see. 275 is my prediction.

It doesnt really matter what you believe, I am giving you the facts as it pertains to my clients. I have worked with many over the last 10 years and the reaction is the same. if you dont believe me...work with me and I will prove it to you...no problem.
P

[natenator]

It doesnt really matter what you believe, I am giving you the facts as it pertains to my clients. I have worked with many over the last 10 years and the reaction is the same. if you dont believe me...work with me and I will prove it to you...no problem.
P
obviously I can atest to this. I was fully expecting to be up 5-10lbs the next day as that's usually what happens after a cheat meal like that and trust me, it was a full blown cheat meal filled with close to 500 grams of carbs from pasta, waffles, maple syrup and brownies loaded with icing.

I'll be interested to see if this holds true for future cheat meals.

[steve_d]

Well, I guess you've peaked my curiosity...I guess I just don't understand why it is true. I always thought the point of cheat meals / days was to replenish glycogen stores. Doesn't the math workout something like 3 grams of water to every 1 gram of carbs stored? And can't your muscle hold about 1000g of carbs, therefore it would be possible to physically replenish about 6 pounds of glycogen in this way???

That is my thought process on it, so I was thinking if he's 281 now with a full set of muscle glycogen, wouldn't that bring his weight down to about 275 once the glycogen stores deplete towards the end of the week from cardio/training??

I am really curious about this. Back in the days when I used to be competitive in cycling, and triathlons, this was the way I thought things worked, and it really seemed to make sense judging by my own scales going from a depleted to carbed up state (from "cheating").

[natenator]

Well, I guess you've peaked my curiosity...I guess I just don't understand why it is true. I always thought the point of cheat meals / days was to replenish glycogen stores. Doesn't the math workout something like 3 grams of water to every 1 gram of carbs stored? And can't your muscle hold about 1000g of carbs, therefore it would be possible to physically replenish about 6 pounds of glycogen in this way???

That is my thought process on it, so I was thinking if he's 281 now with a full set of muscle glycogen, wouldn't that bring his weight down to about 275 once the glycogen stores deplete towards the end of the week from cardio/training??

I am really curious about this. Back in the days when I used to be competitive in cycling, and triathlons, this was the way I thought things worked, and it really seemed to make sense judging by my own scales going from a depleted to carbed up state (from "cheating").
not sure what kind of diet you do but to me it makes sense while doing a keto diet - you have pretty much zilch for carbs in your system/muscles so filling them back up isn't the same as someone who is eating carbs in their diet having a cheat meal.

I am sure the scale would have been less had I just ate 8 eggo waffles and 250ml of syrup. Less food in my stomach...

Not overly concerned with the scale anyway but did notice this morning I was at 280.5. I don't normally weigh myself that often but I always tend to after a cheat meal for a day or 2 lol

[Praetorian]

You seem to be overthinking things....the cheat meal does replenish some glycogen but it would be impossible to fill all stores in one meal. The carb intake is only 400-500g max. The most important aspect of teh cheat meal is thyroid improvement. The additional carbs increase the conversion of T4 to T3 and in essence fuel the fat burning fire.
P

[steve_d]

not sure what kind of diet you do but to me it makes sense while doing a keto diet - you have pretty much zilch for carbs in your system/muscles so filling them back up isn't the same as someone who is eating carbs in their diet having a cheat meal.


I stay relatively lean all the time, so never need more than 8 or so weeks of dieting, and only 4 of them are really strict with cardio. By that time, I am eating approx 2000 calories a day and doing about 45mins of cardio + training per day. Maybe more if I really need it. carbs are next to nothing - the only carbs I get is from lettuce, let's put it that way! (maybe a little oatmeal here and there - but any carb I eat is quickly burnt up so living in near ketosis all the time).

If I ate an extra 500g of carbs, I would probably only be 1-2 pounds heavier the next day on average. But personally, the weight fluctuates SO much at that point depending how much shit is in my colon when I step on the scale. I weigh myself all the time and go by a median weight to keep it as accurate as I can on a weekly basis.


You seem to be overthinking things....the cheat meal does replenish some glycogen but it would be impossible to fill all stores in one meal. The carb intake is only 400-500g max. The most important aspect of teh cheat meal is thyroid improvement. The additional carbs increase the conversion of T4 to T3 and in essence fuel the fat burning fire.
P

Got it. I guess I was thinking there was WAY more food involved. I know alot of people talk about there cheat days involving pizza, burgers, etc. Add 6-8 litres to that and no doubt you'd be heavy the next day.

Everyone has their own definition of cheating. For someone you're size, an extra 400g of carbs isn't very drastic.

[Ritch]

Some big wheels you got there brotha!

[natenator]

this was my cheat meal last Saturday.

Trying to figure out what to eat this Saturday...

[L3]

sushi kan!

[drdnj]

sushi kan!

I am dieting at the same time as Nate......working with P also...

I tried sushi last cheat meal and (as warned by P) it was a struggle to eat 400g of carbs in sushi.
5 Maki rolls and 30 pieces later I was done and almost barfed!

D

[natenator]

I am dieting at the same time as Nate......working with P also...

I tried sushi last cheat meal and (as warned by P) it was a struggle to eat 400g of carbs in sushi.
5 Maki rolls and 30 pieces later I was done and almost barfed!

D
lol good to know. I was contemplating sushi this weekend so maybe I'll skip that lol

was thinking:

8oz XL ground beef with 8oz yams
4 frosted cinnamon rolls from timmies
ice cream to finish it off


Ok I need to rethink the cinnamon rolls from timmies. 25 grams of fat in those ****ers. Argh!

[L3]

BREAD!!
man how i miss bleached four

[drdnj]

lol good to know. I was contemplating sushi this weekend so maybe I'll skip that lol

was thinking:

8oz XL ground beef with 8oz yams
4 frosted cinnamon rolls from timmies
ice cream to finish it off


Ok I need to rethink the cinnamon rolls from timmies. 25 grams of fat in those ****ers. Argh!

Im doing a massive stack of homemade pancakes (thin ones) with real maple syrup----CANNOT WAIT!

[natenator]

down to 278

Here's a side chest shot. Still a loooong way to go but getting better and tighter each week.

[daande]

So some things I am noticing:

1) I cramp like a mofo on keto even when just sitting! So gonna up the sodium from salt and sugar free condiments as well as add in taurine.

2) Workouts are a bitch. I'm used to brutal workouts but P's are structured differently and adjusting to them has been interesting to say the least. Like it though.

3) Hunger in the mornings til about 1pm is unreal. Starts to ease up once I get my 3rd and 4th meals into me. My guess is the low carbs and the cardio first thing plus the fasted state which is driving the hunger.

I'm sure other things are on my mind but can't think of them right now. Off to hit up a cardio session in a bit - oh joy.

Until next time...

P has also been helping me with my diet....wait until he strips some fat off it you will see how hungry you become. This is this first time I have ever done this and its frigging hard at times. Because you just want to eat more. Anyways, goodluck man take some pics of you now so we can all see your progress!

[declan]

Waiting to see your progress. Keep us updated and good luck!

[Praetorian]

Im doing a massive stack of homemade pancakes (thin ones) with real maple syrup----CANNOT WAIT!


Atta boy!
P

[Praetorian]

down to 278

Here's a side chest shot. Still a loooong way to go but getting better and tighter each week.

Doing a great job Nate...keep up the hard work.
P

[the-vanilla-gorilla]

looking awsome nate keep focused and getr done!!


TVG

[natenator]

Alright. I'm done with the various food combinations. I just can't eat all the food so I think from here on out I'll be sticking with pancakes and syrup with a brownie to finish it off. Most of the carbs will come from the syrup and icing on the brownie.

It kills my stomach to eat so much actual food anymore so getting in liquid'ish forms seems to be the smart choice

[drdnj]

Alright. I'm done with the various food combinations. I just can't eat all the food so I think from here on out I'll be sticking with pancakes and syrup with a brownie to finish it off. Most of the carbs will come from the syrup and icing on the brownie.

It kills my stomach to eat so much actual food anymore so getting in liquid'ish forms seems to be the smart choice

Bro, that makes 2 of us....I had 18 pancakes with 250mls of real maple syrup last nite and it went down pretty decent....
I did this based on P's advice...he's the man!

[natenator]

Bro, that makes 2 of us....I had 18 pancakes with 250mls of real maple syrup last nite and it went down pretty decent....
I did this based on P's advice...he's the man!

Ya I think that's the way to go. Saturday I had a homemade burger with turkey bacon and cheese on a kaizer then 4 LARGE (about 8" lol) pancakes with real syrup and sugar free syrup (was trying to save some calories so I could eat the ice cream) and then had ice cream. I couldn't even manage 6 spoonfuls of ice cream before wanting to hurl. Bafrely managed 400 grams of carbs plus again, stomach was massively distended and still is lol

no more :(

[Houstonbc]

looking good big boy! :)

[Praetorian]

Ya I think that's the way to go. Saturday I had a homemade burger with turkey bacon and cheese on a kaizer then 4 LARGE (about 8" lol) pancakes with real syrup and sugar free syrup (was trying to save some calories so I could eat the ice cream) and then had ice cream. I couldn't even manage 6 spoonfuls of ice cream before wanting to hurl. Bafrely managed 400 grams of carbs plus again, stomach was massively distended and still is lol

no more :(

LOL better to stick with the carbs....the issue comes from the burger, bacon, cheese etc...it fills you up too much. Pancakes with syrup is pretty easy to get decent amount of carbs and still keep the fats tolerable.
P

[JonnyO]

What about going out and grabbing one of those chocolate fudge brownie Blizzards bringing it home and smothering it all over a shit load of pancakes? That should meet your requirements quite easily eh? LOL, you guys damn thats awesome, I love pancakes. I bought this pancake mix from a natural food store, a mix of cinamon and apples, cooked some today for the wife and I man o man they were tasty, They have a few flavors, choco chip, strawberry, blueberry...gluten free too.

Good luck with all you guys progress too good work Nate!

[natenator]

new leg shot

[drdnj]

Legs are looking HUGE bro! Good work! Are you finding that this crazy cardio we are doing is actually enhancing your leg development? Mine are getting super vascular and better cuts than I have ever seen at this stage of dieting....

Keep on keepin on ma man! BTW- CHEAT MEAL TOMORROW YEEEHAWWW

[natenator]

Legs are looking HUGE bro! Good work! Are you finding that this crazy cardio we are doing is actually enhancing your leg development? Mine are getting super vascular and better cuts than I have ever seen at this stage of dieting....

Keep on keepin on ma man! BTW- CHEAT MEAL TOMORROW YEEEHAWWW
I'd agree with that although my cardio of choice is stairclimber and stepmill (moving stairs) so they get a lot of attention every single day.

Great, cheat meal.. lol Not hungry for it, no desire for it but I know I gotta eat it. I shouldn't complain cause I know the time is gonna come when I don't get it and then I'll be bitchy lol

[drdnj]

I'd agree with that although my cardio of choice is stairclimber and stepmill (moving stairs) so they get a lot of attention every single day.

Great, cheat meal.. lol Not hungry for it, no desire for it but I know I gotta eat it. I shouldn't complain cause I know the time is gonna come when I don't get it and then I'll be bitchy lol

Hahaha....you wanna know what... I get excited for the pancakes and then once I have a few bites I actually have to force the rest down. It really doesn't feel as great eating it as I expect.....

Oh well, I like having the psychological edge knowing the cheat meal is coming up---eating it is another story ;)

[natenator]

end of week 4. Weight 270.8 down from 298 when I started.

[ironwill]

good work, keep on chuggin.....down the line....

[L3]

updates?

[hommes]

hows it going mate.

[phatkid77]

bump..... i wanna know the weight.... you guys still doin this....

phats

[drdnj]

Hey boys........ I ended up getting really sick last week.....here's the thread and pics

http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11917&highlight=drdnj&page=2

I think Nate was injured too.....don't know for sure.

[natenator]

Yup: http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12115&highlight=hockey