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the-vanilla-gorilla
04-07-2009, 09:33 PM
ok i never done gone done this stuff before


lol
but a friend of mine is on been about 2 weeks and he swears up and down hes feelingit full on?
now im somewhat new to aas and have only really studied the shit ive done or will be doing soon
so i have lots of reading to do!


anyhow to the ****ing point !


When you who have done Tren e before.Around what week do you start to somewhat feel it coming on?
Also when do you feel it hit full force!?



thanks for your time guys!




TVG

Praetorian
04-07-2009, 11:24 PM
The answer is moot...stick with tren ace....just so much better.
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tex
05-07-2009, 01:51 AM
hmm...Id guess week 4 since its long estered.....wait til he gets the full on sides hittin him and then he'll have to wait a few weeks for them to go away....acetate is the wtg for tren to be able to control sides....

unclej
05-07-2009, 03:16 AM
For me 3 weeks in and im feeling the Tren E..

Descimus
05-07-2009, 10:55 AM
yeah sweat hitted at week 3, big time, hey dont want to hijack, do you guy feel some kind of chest pressure on tren e?

wolverine
05-07-2009, 01:34 PM
How would it be to run say 400 mg's of tren enanthate along with say ED injects of 50 mg's of tren acetate a week ?? or is this way too much Tren all together??

nisser
05-07-2009, 01:54 PM
How would it be to run say 400 mg's of tren enanthate along with say ED injects of 50 mg's of tren acetate a week ?? or is this way too much Tren all together??

If you have to ask if 750mg of tren per week is too much then it definitely is.

Houstonbc
05-07-2009, 02:00 PM
If you have to ask if 750mg of tren per week is too much then it definitely is.

X2

wolverine
05-07-2009, 02:01 PM
Well there are fella's on here shooting it 100 mg's ED a week, that's 700 mg's, my question is, would it be wiser to mix up the esters so you don't have the sides as bad??

quebecbulk
05-07-2009, 11:22 PM
No point in mixing both esters unless your dying for for the tren to peak in your bloodstream.

Stick to one ester, preferably acetate.

wolverine
05-07-2009, 11:26 PM
Nice, and nice to meet you QB, I need some hard facts to figure this one out though, maybe not that much Tren as I specified as before but makes sense to
run both esters, my opinion.

Solo59
05-07-2009, 11:48 PM
Speaking for myself, I much prefer Tren enanthate over acetate, but then I know my body and know what sides to expect. Fewer jabs is a strong point right there, but overall the effects are identical: physical transformation. I'm in my first week of this run of Tren e and I have already begun some night sweats. (Maybe my body recognizes what's coming?)

Wolvy, if you want to run Tren a with Tren e, why not run the Tren a the first three weeks as a sort of kick start? It should be leaving your bloodstream just as the Tren e begins to kick in. Besides, the Tren a will quickly let you know what sides you can expect. (Seems to me Tren a gave me more intense sides than Tren e, but both raised my heartrate and kept me short of breath - cardio was mostly out.)

Solo

wolverine
06-07-2009, 12:06 AM
Sounds good Solo!, I might try this as I have both on hand, I have never found I get to bad of sides from Tren but have never run Tren Enanthate so looking forward to a new compound!

unclej
07-07-2009, 01:12 AM
Just be ready for the side effects come 3 weeks in...Tren can be very overpowering if you don't know what to expect. For me acouple of times I nearly tripped out come 3 weeks in a Tren cycle using 400 mg a week.

manfreakca
07-07-2009, 12:24 PM
usin tren ace rite nw and at 300mg a week i can feel the mental sides big time.i dont know how u guys run it a high doses.Anxiety parnoid angry insomnia feelins are rite up there now i cant go higher now for sure gonna have to wait and cee

#8
07-07-2009, 02:18 PM
lol

tren sounds pretty effed up. you guys are nuts lol

Ongeau
07-07-2009, 02:21 PM
lol

tren sounds pretty effed up. you guys are nuts lol

I woudl recommend it to anyone who's ready, then watch them talk about it for weeks on end lol. The best cycles i've done are with Tren.

Praetorian
07-07-2009, 03:24 PM
Stick to the acetate it is much better. 700mg weekly is much to high a dose unless you are two weeks out from a contest. Otherwise it is not the best idea...yes there are guys doing that...it doesnt change the fact that is unwise.
There are many unwise people in this world...try not to become one.
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nisser
07-07-2009, 03:30 PM
People use too much. I'm at 200mg/week and the only side is insomnia.

Big D
07-07-2009, 03:49 PM
lol

tren sounds pretty effed up. you guys are nuts lol

its not bad at all , most of these guys just over exaggerate ALOT.

nitrous
07-07-2009, 04:10 PM
Stick to the acetate it is much better. 700mg weekly is much to high a dose unless you are two weeks out from a contest. Otherwise it is not the best idea...yes there are guys doing that...it doesnt change the fact that is unwise.
There are many unwise people in this world...try not to become one.
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why is the acetate so much better? sure it would kick in faster and you'd be able to drop it faster if you have sides but thats all i can really think of? just asking as i have never done tren

wolverine
07-07-2009, 06:17 PM
Thanks Praertorian, I will run lose dose and keep you posted.

flapjack
08-07-2009, 05:06 PM
why is the acetate so much better? sure it would kick in faster and you'd be able to drop it faster if you have sides but thats all i can really think of? just asking as i have never done tren

Good question. I would like to know also. I ran Profina (tren Ace/Test prop)with EQ and Var for 10 weeks and had great results from it. Very few sides, no night sweats, no trensomnia, no rage...

I plan on running TNT 400 (Test-e/test-cyp/Tren-e) with D-bol as a bulk cycle in the fall...so i would like to know if I should expest some difference in sides.

Praetorian
08-07-2009, 06:11 PM
The acetate is better because one it is faster acting thus you start gaining much sooner...as well you get a more pronounced aggression from the acetate than you do from the longer esters such as enanthate or the old hexahydrobenzylcarbonate (Parabolan). The added aggression translates into a greater strength increase and thus more weight being used and more muscle in the long run.
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flapjack
09-07-2009, 05:14 PM
Okay, but as far as physically, the gains should be similar? I will be starting the cycle with dirty D and the TNT so that should help the early gains. I got REALLY tired of the ED pinning, so that is why I'm trying the TNT.

Praetorian
09-07-2009, 06:36 PM
Maybe you didnt read my entire post...the gains would be similar yes but LESS...if thats ok with you then no problem.
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flapjack
09-07-2009, 08:17 PM
Gotcha, thanks

Skyblob
10-07-2009, 12:44 PM
Howbout frontload tren E :O :D

INked
10-07-2009, 01:03 PM
TNT and Dbol all I use for past 3 yrs,drop the d's for Winstrol when I want to shed some water.

theboss
10-07-2009, 01:12 PM
TNT and Dbol all I use for past 3 yrs,drop the d's for Winstrol when I want to shed some water.

on TNT & winny now......very nice....would have been better with some EQ

the-vanilla-gorilla
10-07-2009, 01:12 PM
TNT and Dbol all I use for past 3 yrs,drop the d's for Winstrol when I want to shed some water.

how long and what mg/daydo you run your D-bol


TVG

charger_08
10-07-2009, 01:48 PM
on TNT & winny now......very nice....would have been better with some EQ

Why would it be better with eq? I plan on the tnt and dbol cycle for october maybe at 2cc a week for 10 weeks and 50-60mgs of dbol a day for 6 weeks......sound ok?

theboss
10-07-2009, 02:24 PM
i mean TNT/EQ/winny would be a nice cycle...last summer i did TNT & EQ.....
this year i am basically doing it again (higher dose of TNT) but adding winny

whats your cycle experience especially with tren?

if it was me i would extend the cycle to 15 weeks...13 with TNT..last 2 just Test E
start the dbol in week 4 or 5.....and only run it 4 weeks @ 40mg

nitrous
10-07-2009, 02:33 PM
TNT, EQ, and Winny.. sounds like too many compounds to me

theboss
10-07-2009, 02:39 PM
TNT, EQ, and Winny.. sounds like too many compounds to me

why is that?

have you seen some of the complicated cycles people post up on here and other boards? I think my combo is pretty simple....lots of guys run 3 compounds per cycle including you...its only 1 more..and EQ is mild.

your cycle logs shows you are running 3....test..tbol & eq !! sheesh.

tex
10-07-2009, 03:27 PM
^ busted! nice detective work

nitrous
10-07-2009, 03:27 PM
why is that?

have you seen some of the complicated cycles people post up on here and other boards? I think my combo is pretty simple....lots of guys run 3 compounds per cycle including you...its only 1 more..and EQ is mild.

your cycle logs shows you are running 3....test..tbol & eq !! sheesh.

hahaha good point on me running 3... wasnt planning on it.. till i found out i hated tbol so much and dropped it for eq.. so only 2 at once but yes 3 in the cycle nonetheless...

i know a pro that uses generally just test and an oral that he will switch up.. along with GH and other stuff but thats it for aas.. of course he has tried other stuff and ran so much gear at once honestly it hurts just thinking about all the pinning but i do think many over complicate it

nitrous
10-07-2009, 03:28 PM
^ busted! nice detective work

lol yes i got owned.. at least i'm not running 4 :P

theboss
10-07-2009, 03:29 PM
lol yes i got owned.. at least i'm not running 4 :P

well neither am i....so there !!!

currently only 3........>>>> :moon

tex
10-07-2009, 03:30 PM
lol..

nitrous
10-07-2009, 03:43 PM
well neither am i....so there !!!

currently only 3........>>>> :moon

haha im currently on 2 :):)

but ya if you guys wanna try 4 at once thats cool let us know how it goes compared to just running 2 at higher dosages.. i'd be curious to know their thoughts

i mean to me with the tren in there i wouldnt think you'd get much from the EQ besides the collagen synthesis but i'm all for you guys doing the testing for me to let me know haha

Beachmuscle
10-07-2009, 11:39 PM
Never muched liked Tren Enan due to the sides seeming much more extreme than the Ace.

Tren Ace, is well Ace! :)

td1111
14-07-2009, 11:15 PM
Tren is 5x more anabolic than test. So 200mg/week is plenty.

The sides are too much for me. I came close to snapping and beating the shit out of another driver in rush our traffic one time. Normally I'm really easy going!

wolverine
14-07-2009, 11:19 PM
It is so euphoric, a definite add in for any cycle, if you can survive the cough!!!!

wan2lrn
15-07-2009, 01:23 PM
Used Tren Ace EOD for 8 weeks starting at 200 mg/week and worked up to 300 mg/week. Only experienced the tren cough once which lasted about 10 mins but my chest felt congested or tight for the remainder of that day.

I felt very calm during the 8 weeks but had the attitude that I didn't give a damn about anything. No tren insomnia and very few night sweats. Next time going to try 400 mg/week.