problems...

[bigpapapump2016]

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[gustavo77]

Should be feeling good by week 5 on test. If diet, training and rest are in check I would start to question the quality of the gear....if you do not mind pm me the brand of gear.

[Mr.Freeze]

and its is first time!:cool: i would look into the gear!

[Hobo4hire]

brand?

[Bowlcut]

Diet? Common guys it can't always be the gear if it is legit ;)

[tarnow]

So someone i know has been taking 30mg dbol ed for 4 weeks, 500mg test e 2 times a week (10 weeks, just about to start week 5). Noticed difference in strength, SOME mass gains, but nothing that is really noticable. Just dropped the dbol and now feels like complete SHIT. Feeling like they arent gaining much as they should be on the sauce. Is there something wrong? Is it possible the test isnt kicked in too much? maybe 500 wasnt enough. Its a first cycle. Person is 6 foot1 237lbs. Diet is pretty good. Any suggestions? also is it usual to feel crapola after dropping the orals?

Somethings defineatley not right here. Majority of people will grow like a weed of 500mg let alone a first cycle. Easy way to find out if its real or not is to get blood work done for testosterone levels. Not very practical because it costs money, but it would work. BTW, does he have any sides that are common with AAS?

[bigdaddydrew123]

for me i dont get alot from test by week 5 , size starts to coime arround then , but strength is closer to 8 for me.

[bigdaddydrew123]

Diet? Common guys it can't always be the gear if it is legit ;)
agree with that too

[thecanadian]

could just be a late reactor, also might not be noticing the effects as he just dropped the dbol and maybe the test hasn't fully kicked in yet. if recovery and diet are in check.....suggest an extra day off, maybe they are just working too hard. Sometimes less is better!
J

[Mr.Freeze]

how old is he?

[bigpapapump2016]

21 years old

[Mr.Freeze]

at 21 with 500mg. of test week should do the job! "arent gaining much as they should be" how much did he gain?

[tarnow]

Is the test pharm or UG?

[bigpapapump2016]

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[Mr.Freeze]

its hard to tell when you dont personely know the guy ! as he realy done is school work? training, eating, sleeping...every body says yeah!yeah!yeah!Then you look closely and there you go sleeps 5-6hrs,eats 3 meal and 3 shake a day,training legs=3 set squat, 3 set leg press, 2 set leg curl AND all of them not TOO heavy!:D You see what i mean? If your not with the guy 24hrs. a day or your a 100% sure he knows what hes doing then its a nother story!but 80% time thats how it end!:D

[gustavo77]

21 years old


UG. gained roughly 10 pounds

Although i do agree with Bowlcut that diet is everything, if this kid is 21 with a good diet and good training he should have gained more than 10lbs on the d-bol alone. I have a friend of mine who has an extremely fast metabolism and could not gain good off a type of gear that we were using, my gains were sub par also. We chalked his lack of gains up to a fast metabolism even though he was consuming 4000+ cals/day at 195lbs....till...the gear that he is on now, he has gained 17lbs in 3.5 weeks on just the d-bol kick start. Don't fool yourselves bros, when your diet and training are up to par the only thing left to blame when you are not gaining is the gear that you are using...

[Hobo4hire]

sorry to say but you wasted your money, i tried the same UG and made 0 gains off of it, i'm not surprised you didn't either!

[BAM]

Personally, I'll be steering clear of North American UG labs until they recover from the crippling ass raping they took from the big black c0ck of the law. .

[Hobo4hire]

10lbs is terrible for a first cycle at those doses, first cycles are suppose to be your best, wheres he gonna go from there 1 GRAM? with 50mg dbol for a second cycle? only reason im chiming in is because i used the same UG and did not gain anything either , i remember even pinning 4 ccs over the course of 2 days and didn't get anything out of it, my first cycle was only 400mgs a week and i gained a little over 20 pounds so i'm PRETTY sure that company is cutting edges

[Mr.Freeze]

I think i miss something???:confused:

[pseclint]

I think i miss something???:confused:


maybe you miss me

[Mr.Freeze]

thats it!:D

[BolicPower]

I love only couple Ug's, and hope this stuff blows over... Also things like label changes can mess ones carrier for life.. if i person does prop, better be so he knos 1/2 life.. So far most our labs have be great.. now most done..

[srt8]

i did exact same cycle with a guy who was using exact same gear as me (we homebrewed it up). He ended up maxing 10lbs greater then when he started yet i was up 32..... Test DBOL Eq was our stack btw, both first time cycle and age 20 and 21.