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daande
30-06-2009, 07:42 PM
So I am on tren prop and var and I am noticing hair falling out in shower what can I do or take to stop it?

Ritch
30-06-2009, 07:48 PM
Propecia at 1mg a day, some nizoral shampoo can be helpfull as well.

daande
30-06-2009, 07:56 PM
Is Propecia OTC?

Ritch
30-06-2009, 07:58 PM
No, but some ug`s carry it. However I don`t think it`s the kind of thing that would be hard to get from your doc. Not like you`re asking for pain killers or uppers.

monkey
30-06-2009, 08:26 PM
It is pretty easy to get. I would ask for Proscar (think thats how you write it).
It has the same ingredient but is dosed higher. It was developed for prosate problems . It is cheaper then the other one, the only downside is that you have to seperate it yourself.
My extended health coverage covers proscar but not propecia because propecia is a hair loss product. Something you might wanna consider too.

I might be wrong, but I remember reading that Finasteride is useless with Tren... something you might wanna read up on as well

daande
30-06-2009, 09:02 PM
I just got some nizoral how oftern should I use it? Also, I have read that finasteride is useless with tren would it be worth trying it?

Ritch
30-06-2009, 09:42 PM
I`ve been using nizoral shampoo everyday, works well on getting rid of chest and back acnee if need be. I believe I`ve heard that finasteride is usueless with tren as well. Man that drug has lots of sides.

tex
30-06-2009, 09:44 PM
shave your head. problem solved!

daande
30-06-2009, 10:07 PM
I am going to start using the nizoral everyday and I will post up if I notice alot less hair in my hands when I wash it.

Ritch
30-06-2009, 10:08 PM
just make sure you leave the shampoo in for a good 3-5 minutes.

monkey
30-06-2009, 10:12 PM
Nizoral didn't do much for me in regards to my hair, and if it did it wasn't really noticable... ended up using for my bacne instead of my hair.. damm that shit gets expensive after a while

Ritch
30-06-2009, 10:17 PM
my bottle is going on it`s fourth week, that`s not bad, ends up costing like 2.50$ week... But I get a haircut evey 4 weeks or so, like to keep it short. But not bald...

monkey
30-06-2009, 10:18 PM
Dude.. I would think that you already accepted that your hair is gonna fall out when you started tren... I mean, there are definitely way more hairfriendly alternatives out there if you care about your hair.

Some don;t need hair other look like shit without it... I for a fact rather keep it as long as possible... but thats just me.

monkey
30-06-2009, 10:23 PM
my bottle is going on it`s fourth week, that`s not bad, ends up costing like 2.50$ week... But I get a haircut evey 4 weeks or so, like to keep it short. But not bald...



Yeah, my hair is quite long right now and I was using it for my back and arms...I was probably using more than neccesary anyways...

Ritch
30-06-2009, 10:23 PM
^^^ You one of those bald guys with a pony tail monkey? ha ha ha, sorry couldn`t resist. If my hair was perfectly straight, I`d keep it longer, but the humid weather makes it all funny, anyway, enough hair style talk... This is not a faggy soccer forum.

monkey
30-06-2009, 10:26 PM
[QUOTE=Ritch;213799]^^^ You one of those bald guys with a pony tail monkey? ha ha ha, sorry couldn`t resist.


Yup down to my ass so I can wipe with it...
of course not... just a lazy ass that looks like a bushman...time to get it buzzed, lol

Ritch
30-06-2009, 10:28 PM
speaking of buzzing things, it`s time for me to buzz my pubes...

monkey
30-06-2009, 10:30 PM
why buzz if you can wax

Ritch
30-06-2009, 11:33 PM
why buzz if you can wax

LOL!

Merc63
02-07-2009, 03:45 AM
STOP TREN IMMEDIATELY!

Tren is the absolutely worst compound imaginable for your hair. Anything that is a strong androgen is going to be hard on your hair line.

Stick to EQ and Var cycles only. Start propecia immediately as well.

theboss
02-07-2009, 10:31 AM
i use NIOXIN shampoo...it seems to help........but i am not prone to baldness.........are you Daande ?

one way to look at is atleast you know you got good tren!! lol.....sorry, wish i could suggest more.

daande
02-07-2009, 11:04 AM
I dont think I am prone to hairloss I have very thick hair. I cant really think of anyone in my family who is bald either....

Kiem
02-07-2009, 02:54 PM
Might just be a shedding phase for you. Who knows.. but the balding gene comes from your mom side. Take a look at her brother's hair.

Merc63
02-07-2009, 03:32 PM
Its the tren. 100%.

nitrous
03-07-2009, 11:39 AM
Might just be a shedding phase for you. Who knows.. but the balding gene comes from your mom side. Take a look at her brother's hair.

hmm thats good to know

daande
03-07-2009, 11:45 AM
My mom has 2 brothers and they all have their hair. Also, I have heard that you can use rogaine should I pickup a bottle and use it once a week or whatever?

daande
03-07-2009, 11:52 AM
i use NIOXIN shampoo...it seems to help........but i am not prone to baldness.........are you Daande ?

one way to look at is atleast you know you got good tren!! lol.....sorry, wish i could suggest more.

http://www.nioxin.com can you point to the product you use?

varking
03-07-2009, 12:28 PM
I have had this problem and I find Nothing really works I have yet to try rogain might pick some up see how she goes.... I even had a subsciption for fina/// Didnt work one one bit

daande
03-07-2009, 03:34 PM
Has anyone ever tried a shampoo with Minoxidil 5% in it? Where can I get that in canada? Also, Im on day 3 of shampooing with nizerol and I let it sit in for like 5 minutes every day and I noticed abit less hair in my hands today when I showered but not much less.

Merc63
03-07-2009, 03:47 PM
None of that shit is going to work if you get hairloss from tren. Tren is just way too strong.

I don't have hairloss in my family and tren makes me shed like crazy. Long cycles are bad for hair too, IN an OUT quick is best.

Skyblob
03-07-2009, 03:57 PM
Just dont go in the shower anymore :P
I have the same experience and I wash my hair like only 3 times per week.. always putting Cap on head now .. loosing tons of my hair

daande
03-07-2009, 04:23 PM
Hairloss does not run in my family either do you think I will be safe to finish up the last 40 or so days of this cycle and I wont go bald?

Ritch
03-07-2009, 04:40 PM
Just dont go in the shower anymore :P
I have the same experience and I wash my hair like only 3 times per week.. always putting Cap on head now .. loosing tons of my hair

That sounds gross. I couldn`t imagine going to the gym and not washing my hair on the same day, plus wearing a cap makes your head sweat more, I know because I wear one. I sure hope you don`t use gel or paste. Has your face broken out with acne? I mean putting a greasy head on a pillow then sleeping with your face on it, is just asking for it. But hey, it`s for a cause, why not just use some propecia?

daande
03-07-2009, 05:19 PM
That sounds gross. I couldn`t imagine going to the gym and not washing my hair on the same day, plus wearing a cap makes your head sweat more, I know because I wear one. I sure hope you don`t use gel or paste. Has your face broken out with acne? I mean putting a greasy head on a pillow then sleeping with your face on it, is just asking for it. But hey, it`s for a cause, why not just use some propecia?

I dont think my dock will give me propecia if you saw my hair lol...she would laugh at me and ask why I think I need it and then wonder how I even knew what it was. I am only 23 and I have really thick long curly hair.

tex
03-07-2009, 05:43 PM
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monkey
03-07-2009, 08:33 PM
To make things even more interesting...
I never lost one hair until I took AAS. Took Finasteride with it, dropped it soon after my cycle was over since I had 0 libido and Finasteride doesnt really help... I figured, yeah I am shedding on cycle and that will probably slow down after I am done...
Well, I never stopped shedding after that. I kickstarted the MPB process that probably would have taken much longer... I am not bald yet, but I can tell that my hair is getting thinner and thinner.
MPB doesnt really run on my moms side, but my dad is bald.

So yeah, starting AAS at a younger age can kickstart the whole MPB process which might never stop after that..

Good luck Skyblob :-). Hope you look good with a shaved head.

Skyblob
03-07-2009, 08:35 PM
That sounds gross. I couldn`t imagine going to the gym and not washing my hair on the same day, plus wearing a cap makes your head sweat more, I know because I wear one. I sure hope you don`t use gel or paste. Has your face broken out with acne? I mean putting a greasy head on a pillow then sleeping with your face on it, is just asking for it. But hey, it`s for a cause, why not just use some propecia?

Hahaha funny :P no acne bro! Only on tren i dont wash my hair as often! Nah i try to not put paste , only when i go out! But when i go to gym i put my cap on.

MacNasty
05-07-2009, 02:27 PM
I am pretty sure finasteride actually makes hair loss even worse with Tren? Something about finasteride blocking one pathway that creates excess amounts of an even nastier enzyme that would have previously existed from Tren use. So with Finasteride + Tren is supposed to be a big no no?

Sorry about the non scientific explanation but I am positive I have read this before and it is like my 5th post so cut me some slack :P

MacNasty
05-07-2009, 02:28 PM
Just to be clear finasteride does work just not with tren

Kiem
05-07-2009, 02:54 PM
I am pretty sure finasteride actually makes hair loss even worse with Tren? Something about finasteride blocking one pathway that creates excess amounts of an even nastier enzyme that would have previously existed from Tren use. So with Finasteride + Tren is supposed to be a big no no?

Sorry about the non scientific explanation but I am positive I have read this before and it is like my 5th post so cut me some slack :P

You are talking about the conversion of nandronlones ( ie Deca and Tren) to DHN. Finasteride blocks this conversions which is not good since DHN is much easier on the scalp. The result is that the unconverted nandrolones wreak havoc on the scalp.

Tren is just too harsh on the hair period.