GH worth it?

[varking]

Ok guys I want to hear from you who have used it..
Is it worth it? I have heard alot of people say they love it others say they would rather spend the money on juice.. For around 20 bucks a day is it worth it?

[deleteduser0002]

Depends on your age and what your goals are with it. Personally I find, being in my mid 30's the stuff is a god send. I'm running soma's right now at just 2iu's a day and after just 3 weeks am already getting leaner, better pumps and that pesky tendon injury in my wrist that I've been battling for a year now feels better than it has since it happened. I love GH. But if your under 30 it may not be worth it as younger guys tend not to respond as well to it as older guys do. I take it for its "anti aging" effect more than for bodybuilding per se. But I find it helps a little in that regard as well. ;)

[varking]

Ok thanks I am young but was going to wait just was thinking I would start to think about it

[pseclint]

i have tried a few different kinds of GH, Saizen, Blue tops, HCG but seriously the only one that did it for me right was the Jins.... I really dont know what it is but that stuff is good as gold.... alot of people were saying that the HCG ones were just as good so im giving that a try so i'll let everyone know, ive been at it for about 3 weeks now....

not worth it in my opinion though if your young unless you do about 5 iu a day

[tiramisu]

Again, it depends, I'm nearing the end of my first kit @ 2iu's 5 days a week. What I see is a slightly reduced bodyfat with no change in diet and continued strength and muscle increase while on PCT with 10 iu's of slin pwo.

Not miraculous and it would certainly be easy to argue that aas are more effective and hugely cheaper than gh but it is certainly a nice addition.

Now if only it wasn't so freakin expensive.

[varking]

Again, it depends, I'm nearing the end of my first kit @ 2iu's 5 days a week. What I see is a slightly reduced bodyfat with no change in diet and continued strength and muscle increase while on PCT with 10 iu's of slin pwo.

Not miraculous and it would certainly be easy to argue that aas are more effective and hugely cheaper than gh but it is certainly a nice addition.

Now if only it wasn't so freakin expensive.
Yes that is what I am think becuase of the price compaired with AAS I think running more gear would be best... Then move into some hgh when I am in my mid 30s

[Praetorian]

Yes it is worth it...

IF you can afford it
IF you do it correctly to achieve the goal you have
IF you have real GH

If you are looking for muscle growth...be prepared to spend alot of money...you wont grow on 2iu per day. You will also need to run it for months not weeks. Most people cannot afford to run GH correctly offseason.
If you are lookign for fat burning ie precontest then 4iu per day is adequate and will really lean you out in combination with T3, clen, cardio, and a decent diet.
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[Chaps]

Yes it is worth it...

IF you can afford it
IF you do it correctly to achieve the goal you have
IF you have real GH

If you are looking for muscle growth...be prepared to spend alot of money...you wont grow on 2iu per day. You will also need to run it for months not weeks. Most people cannot afford to run GH correctly offseason.
If you are lookign for fat burning ie precontest then 4iu per day is adequate and will really lean you out in combination with T3, clen, cardio, and a decent diet.
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What are your thoughts for use while bulking, 10iu's or so?

[declan]

Yes it is worth it...

IF you can afford it
IF you do it correctly to achieve the goal you have
IF you have real GH

If you are looking for muscle growth...be prepared to spend alot of money...you wont grow on 2iu per day. You will also need to run it for months not weeks. Most people cannot afford to run GH correctly offseason.
If you are lookign for fat burning ie precontest then 4iu per day is adequate and will really lean you out in combination with T3, clen, cardio, and a decent diet.
P

Since you are the most knowledgeable guy in this thread so far I'm gonna ask you this. How long and how much would you take to really notice tightening in your skin? Just currently coming out of a cutter and have lost significant fat deposits but skin is not as tight as I wanted it to be.

I just want some insight before starting gh if I could afford it.

[Praetorian]

What are your thoughts for use while bulking, 10iu's or so?

10iu's is fne while mass gaining ( i hate the term bulking....its an excuse to get fat) You also need to run adequate aas ie 1g test per week. Split the GH dose a minimum of two shots at 5iu morning and post workout. Slin is not necessary unless gains halt then you can run 6-8iu's in the morning and post workout to start. You have to remember Chinese GH and other non pharm GH is not as potent as say Humatrope, or Serostim. Normally 10iu of Chinese is about equivalent to about 5iu pharm GH. You will also need to eat every 2.5 to three hours 50g pro+50g carbs+15-20g fat.
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[Praetorian]

Since you are the most knowledgeable guy in this thread so far I'm gonna ask you this. How long and how much would you take to really notice tightening in your skin? Just currently coming out of a cutter and have lost significant fat deposits but skin is not as tight as I wanted it to be.

I just want some insight before starting gh if I could afford it.

Tightening of the skin, healthier hair, feeling of well being etc are all effects of Gh run at a lower dose iu 1-2iu daily. You dont need much to see these effects. You shoudl notice them at 4-6 weeks depending on the individual. Also if you have really loose skin the GH will not make that much of a difference.
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[wolverine]

Great post, good info Praetorian, the side affects at 5 IU a day must be pretty noticable, last time I ran GH I had major tendon discomfort and had to do physio to loosen up again, is this a normal side affect???? I ran 3 iu a day for 6 months and noticed really good results, fat lose was substantial.

[Praetorian]

Great post, good info Praetorian, the side affects at 5 IU a day must be pretty noticable, last time I ran GH I had major tendon discomfort and had to do physio to loosen up again, is this a normal side affect???? I ran 3 iu a day for 6 months and noticed really good results, fat lose was substantial.

If you have decent GH you need to ramp up slowly. Years ago when i started the Jins at 4iu I could barely finish my workout from the elbow pain. Start at 2iu per day and ramp up weekly by 2iu.
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[Chaps]

10iu's is fne while mass gaining ( i hate the term bulking....its an excuse to get fat) You also need to run adequate aas ie 1g test per week. Split the GH dose a minimum of two shots at 5iu morning and post workout. Slin is not necessary unless gains halt then you can run 6-8iu's in the morning and post workout to start. You have to remember Chinese GH and other non pharm GH is not as potent as say Humatrope, or Serostim. Normally 10iu of Chinese is about equivalent to about 5iu pharm GH. You will also need to eat every 2.5 to three hours 50g pro+50g carbs+15-20g fat.
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I figure if i went with say Kefei's i'd be looking at 10iu's and Somatropin would more around 6iu's. I agree on the term bulking as well, I'll be the first to admit tha ti made that mistake and paid for it with nasty excess fat gain.

[Praetorian]

Keffei I cant say for sure how they compare as it is one brand i have no experience with. Somas for sure 6-10iu depending on your size.
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[tony_canuck]

didn't someone post the keffei's being around 80% of listed dose? I run them at 4iu and had good results

for pure mass though, very expensive.... since i'm getting older i want the health benefits (skin, feeling better, lean etc...) and not to gain 30lbs

[gsxr750]

Kefeis apparantly contain 1.88mg of GH per vial.

[Merc63]

Noticed nothing for leaning properties in 5months at 5iu ED. Maintained size better then usual when coming off a cycle.

I think GH works much better for older guys 30+

[Praetorian]

GH doesnt work better for older guys. GH works well for everyone otherwise it is not GH. Older guys tend to see more benefits sooner as their natural levels of GH are much lower than younger guys. That basically only refers to the longevity type of benefits...when it comes to fat burning both will be somewhat equivalent and with mass gaining the correct amount is necessary....4iu wont cut it.
Also you are not going to just lean out because you are on GH....you also need to diet strictly along with doing cardio.
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[ironwill]

Kefeis apparantly contain 1.88mg of GH per vial.
what is that compared to 10 ius???
sorry i cant compute this....:)

[Praetorian]

Some companies (ie Eli Lilly)list the amount of GH in the vial in mg. 1 mg of gh is equivalent to 2.7iu's.
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[ironwill]

Thanks P....

[Houstonbc]

kefei and blue tops = 1.88mg per vial

soma blue box kits and jins = 3.3 mg per vial?

is this right?

[Vitamin S]

what i think of gh.

1. very expensive fat burner for the majority that use it only use it to reduce body fat.

2. the same can be achieved prolly faster and a heck of a lot cheaper on test/tren/winny cycle with a good quality fat burner and cardio diet routine.

3. unless ur a pro and u actually use 10 plus iu's of the good stuff for cellular division and growth along with insuline and igf-1 you don' tneed it.

i am suprised by the amoutn of peopel (mostly rich people who know shit about lifting or dieting that are taking this ) i guess its a cosmetic drug if you shall say, so many people on it in my gym and they look like shit, or they cou'dve easily achieved that with sauce alone.

[Praetorian]

what i think of gh.

1. very expensive fat burner for the majority that use it only use it to reduce body fat. (it is expensive but work very well)

2. the same can be achieved prolly faster and a heck of a lot cheaper on test/tren/winny cycle with a good quality fat burner and cardio diet routine.
(anabolics will assist in mainaining muscle they wont burn fat, clen and T3 will work well but have limitations-stimulants such as ephdra are just not a good choice period)

3. unless ur a pro and u actually use 10 plus iu's of the good stuff for cellular division and growth along with insuline and igf-1 you don' tneed it.
(you dont need insulin and IGF to use gh effectively)

i am suprised by the amoutn of peopel (mostly rich people who know shit about lifting or dieting that are taking this ) i guess its a cosmetic drug if you shall say, so many people on it in my gym and they look like shit, or they cou'dve easily achieved that with sauce alone.
(very true mostly because they have money to burn and were promised the world by some quack or guru- a decent diet and cardio would have worked wonders for them)

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