350mg winstrol or 400mg equipoise

[Ritch]

Yeah, so which is bettter on a weekly dosage? I`m 8 weeks in my cycle of 500mg test and 400mg equipoise and am thinking of replacing the equipoise with 50mg of oral winstrol daily. I understand we all react differently but just don`t feel any kick on this cycle. Should add that I`ve been I`m dieting the last 4 weeks so that can be a factor. Started at 232lbs and now weigh 228 but lost alot of fat. I know the gear is working, otherwise I would have lost a good 15 lbs by now going low carb as I`ve been doing. Strength is still as it was before the cycle, but am looking for that "feeling" when on...

Was also thinking of increasing my test dose to 700mg a week c`ause it looks like I will need more test. Is it common to get only 8 shots out of a bottle? I swear on my first one, I got 8 and questioned if I was drawing too much out, so on my second bottle, I drew slightly under the 1cc mark to make sure I`d get a good 9 shots. I`ve done 8 shots of under 1 cc`s and it looks like there is maybe 1/2 cc left in the bottle.

[nisser]

I don't see why you can't keep things as they are and just throw in winny :)

[giannos]

Is it common to get only 8 shots out of a bottle? I swear on my first one, I got 8 and questioned if I was drawing too much out, so on my second bottle, I drew slightly under the 1cc mark to make sure I`d get a good 9 shots. I`ve done 8 shots of under 1 cc`s and it looks like there is maybe 1/2 cc left in the bottle.

You lose .1 ml in the tip every time you draw. So at 500mg of Test. I'll assume you draw 250mg twice a week. That's .2ml a week. And in 5 weeks you would lose one complete ML. A 10ml bottle is always 9ml by the time you factor in loss. 8ml or 8.5 could be just a small variance in how your drawing out and whether or not your getting out every last drop out of the vial. In the good old days labs use to fill their bottles to 11mls to make up for this. But sadly I don't hear of this anymore

[Ritch]

You lose .1 ml in the tip every time you draw. So at 500mg of Test. I'll assume you draw 250mg twice a week. That's .2ml a week. And in 5 weeks you would lose one complete ML. A 10ml bottle is always 9ml by the time you factor in loss. 8ml or 8.5 could be just a small variance in how your drawing out and whether or not your getting out every last drop out of the vial. In the good old days labs use to fill their bottles to 11mls to make up for this. But sadly I don't hear of this anymore

That`s something I should have known before starting my cycle. Because now I will have to get another bottle of test and equi to do my 20 weeker the way I originally planned. Say I have 4 bottles that means me being short by about 4-8 shots. That can be 4 weeks of juice not calculated in loss. ( 2 shots a week with 8 cc`s missing ) Live and learn I guess. But by getting the extra bottle of each, I can up the doses a little otherwise there will be a surplus lying around...

[faller]

Keep in mind that the EQ is just going to do its thing after 6 to 8 weeks. This is the same cycle i'm on now only EQ is at 600 a week. I'll be adding the winny the last four or five weeks... You doing a 20 weeker as well?

edit: K i seen your post, its a 20 weeker

[Ritch]

Well if I decide to keep the equi and buy another bottle I could run about 480 mg of equi, test wise with another bottle I could bump the dose to 700. So going from 500mg test and 400mg equi to 700mg test and 480mg equi, is still an extra 280mg gear a week, maybe that will make me feel more "on"? I do have some M1T caps and was thinking of uising 10mg only on workout days if all else fails...

[nitrous]

Keep in mind that the EQ is just going to do its thing after 6 to 8 weeks. This is the same cycle i'm on now only EQ is at 600 a week. I'll be adding the winny the last four or five weeks... You doing a 20 weeker as well?

edit: K i seen your post, its a 20 weeker

how long before you start to feel the EQ though? i mean the half life is like what 14-15 days? cant take 6 months before you start feeling it

[Ritch]

how long before you start to feel the EQ though? i mean the half life is like what 14-15 days? cant take 6 months before you start feeling it

He said 6-8 weeks... And it`s been 8 weeks I`ve been on. Plus I`m using less. But equi is not known for creating euphoria, more for the muscle hardening , increased red blood cells, appetite increase and long term muscle gain, which is why I may keep it over winstol if that makes sense to you guys...

[nitrous]

He said 6-8 weeks... And it`s been 8 weeks I`ve been on. Plus I`m using less. But equi is not known for creating euphoria, more for the muscle hardening , increased red blood cells, appetite increase and long term muscle gain, which is why I may keep it over winstol if that makes sense to you guys...

personally i wouldnt touch winny.. i have enough joint issues as it is... i'd go anavar over winny any day except for maybe if it was like right before a comp or something..

so you've been on EQ for 8 weeks how do you feel? have you added on much muscle as oppose to what you would have done with just test? vascular? cardio go up much?

[Ritch]

personally i wouldnt touch winny.. i have enough joint issues as it is... i'd go anavar over winny any day except for maybe if it was like right before a comp or something..

so you've been on EQ for 8 weeks how do you feel? have you added on much muscle as oppose to what you would have done with just test? vascular? cardio go up much?

Well carbs are low, so feel kinda mellow. Today is cheat day and will be feeling fine when I inhale that pizza and ice cream cones I got... But like I said the weights are still heavy, no way natural, would I be training like this. Never done just test, was test d-ball ( 2 past cycles) or test and winny (1 past cycle.) That was a long time ago however. And this cycle I started with a much higher bf% than ever but it was a productive bulking cycle I did. Forgot to add I`m up to 80mcg of clen with this. By cardio go up much, are you asking if I do any? The answer is no. Never needed it to get lean. Yeah, yeah, let the shit rain down on me, lol!

[varking]

I would just add the winny in.... Keep the eq going bro make you vascular as hell

[faller]

I don't ever really "feel" the EQ.. Firstly i personally don't like any kind of dramatic gain, slow and steady is what i like. For me it takes close to 8 weeks for me to notice anything, and by that i mean a hardening up, more vascular, the perfect summer cycle for me.


Ya keep the EQ going and add the winny at the end^^

[Ritch]

I don't ever really "feel" the EQ.. Firstly i personally don't like any kind of dramatic gain, slow and steady is what i like. For me it takes close to 8 weeks for me to notice anything, and by that i mean a hardening up, more vascular, the perfect summer cycle for me.


Ya keep the EQ going and add the winny at the end^^

Sounds good. I understand what you say about dramatic gains, plus I want to "feel on" but not too much because when I go off, I don`t want a big drop in performance. But now I feel the same as when I wasen`t on, so bumping up the doses for now is what I`ll do, and if budget permits, I`ll add the winny. I imagine 50mg of oral winny should be enough.

[nitrous]

By cardio go up much, are you asking if I do any? The answer is no. Never needed it to get lean. Yeah, yeah, let the shit rain down on me, lol!

im shaking my head at you lol

[con_man]

if you up the equi to 600 and the test to 750mg/wk you'll be fine, also add the winny in on your last 6-8 wks at 50mg's a day or whatever you can handle before the sore joints. I tried that on my last cycle of test/equi and the pumps in the gym were phenominal. You'll find the feeling you were lookind for... no doubt

Conman

[Ritch]

if you up the equi to 600 and the test to 750mg/wk you'll be fine, also add the winny in on your last 6-8 wks at 50mg's a day or whatever you can handle before the sore joints. I tried that on my last cycle of test/equi and the pumps in the gym were phenominal. You'll find the feeling you were lookind for... no doubt

Conman

I recalculated what I`ll have with an extra bottle of test and equi. Looks like I will be able to run 800mg test and 480mg of equi. Total mg weekly being 1280 vs 1350 which is what you recommended and can`t disagree with. Just don`t want to have to buy 2 bottles of equi, so will give this a run. The winny is still a maybe as well due to $$$... But have a feeling I will be able to see and feel changes upping the test from 500 to 800mg.

[tripleA]

i'd pick eq over winnie. v is too hard on my joints. eq kicks in quickly for me. after a few weeks my veins are poppin out like crazy.

[LIVEHARD]

That`s something I should have known before starting my cycle. Because now I will have to get another bottle of test and equi to do my 20 weeker the way I originally planned. Say I have 4 bottles that means me being short by about 4-8 shots. That can be 4 weeks of juice not calculated in loss. ( 2 shots a week with 8 cc`s missing ) Live and learn I guess. But by getting the extra bottle of each, I can up the doses a little otherwise there will be a surplus lying around...

i allways get 9 shots out of a 10ml ?? i account for this

best of luck bro

[LIVEHARD]

He said 6-8 weeks... And it`s been 8 weeks I`ve been on. Plus I`m using less. But equi is not known for creating euphoria, more for the muscle hardening , increased red blood cells, appetite increase and long term muscle gain, which is why I may keep it over winstol if that makes sense to you guys...

I haven't used EQ in years my next cycle I will

I hatted Winni it made me feel like a old man my joints would creak

[Big D]

IMO I hate winny I cant squat or work out my arms , my joints hurt so much.

[LIVEHARD]

IMO I hate Winny I cant squat or work out my arms , my joints hurt so much.

Agreed Winni is for dogs ( literally ) for pouches really