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Fat Boy
27-06-2009, 06:19 PM
Any advise outside of stop eating on how to lose 30 lbs in as short amount of time possible while keeping energy up to train 5-6 days a week, 5 cardio sessions and 5 weights. I'm 6'2", 250 want to be around 220.
You might be able to lose 15-20 pounds of water if you hit the sauna for a few hours. I don't think it's very healthy though.
ubcpower
27-06-2009, 06:49 PM
Welcome to the site fat boy...
Praetorian
27-06-2009, 06:50 PM
Run a strict protein and veggie diet, 6 meals daily approx 45-50g pro plus a cup green beans etc. Cardio 2-3 times per day 1 hour each 7 days per week, train 5 days per week. NO cheat meals, and only omega 3 capsules twice daily for fats.
Every 5th day add 15g essential fats to each meal.
Run this for 30 days.
P
PS. if you want to keep energy up dont diet!
tiramisu
27-06-2009, 07:19 PM
Now that's a no screwing around nasty weight loss month.
I'm ok with diet but I'd need someone with a whip to get me through the cardio sessions even at low intensity. On the plus side I didn't lose my will to live on this type of diet till about week 16 so the early weeks might actually be a good time for lots of cardio.
In the later weeks (12-16) finding the will to complete normal workouts becomes a real challenge.
This forum is a bodybuilding forum, not lazy man lose fat fast forum.
MMASTAR
28-06-2009, 12:41 PM
my advice... start walking right now and quit when youve lost the 30 pounds.. that should be about a month i think... you make want to pack a few protein shakes..
GYMBRAT
28-06-2009, 01:26 PM
Any advise outside of stop eating on how to lose 30 lbs in as short amount of time possible while keeping energy up to train 5-6 days a week, 5 cardio sessions and 5 weights. I'm 6'2", 250 want to be around 220.
whats the hurry?...that is if there is no real reason to lose that amount of weight so quickly
GYMBRAT
28-06-2009, 01:28 PM
sorry, almost forgot to say WELCOME!
amputate a leg. Seriously, if you're very dedicated, look into a keto diet
cappybye
28-06-2009, 03:33 PM
If a crash diet is what you're looking for then you've come to the wrong place. 30 pounds will take at least three months, more if you want to keep enough energy for workouts.
What works for me is carb tapering and cycling. Complex carbs for your first three meals of the days and none for the last three, then two days a week you have them with every meal to keep your metabolism guessing. It isn't as tough to stay on as a strict low-carb diet which I think may be impossible for you to stay on if you haven't got the dieting down yet.
PM me with your email if you want me to send you over a good book on it.
tiramisu
28-06-2009, 04:10 PM
So far the only useful advice is Praetorian's. I'm going to incorporate it in the spring. While I did lose 30 pounds in 16 weeks this season I avoided cardio till the end and truthfully had nothing left in the tank for it when it came time to do it as planned.
Next spring I will try front loading my cardio while I still have the energy for it and see if I can sneak another couple of percent body fat reduction before my body says enough.
I'm still hoping to get to 10% by september long weekend but in combination with PCT I'm gaining ground slowly rather than aggressively.
Socially_Inept
28-06-2009, 08:53 PM
look up Lyle McDonald's "Rapid Fat Loss Handbook", best crash diet a bodybuilder could consider and it worked well for me, i wouldnt run it unless i had a low dose of anabolics to counter muscle loss though because its pretty extreme
tiramisu
28-06-2009, 10:28 PM
Starvation diets are a great way to end up fatter than you started with less muscle. Lyle McDonald's diet appears to be pretty much a poster child for this.
Fat Boy
30-06-2009, 02:35 PM
Good info, thx. Three months is fast enough. One thing that was suggested by all was limiting the carbs. I am going to go with the Preatorian plan with some added oatmeal in the am. I'm not training for anything other than health, but that commitment is real. If this is an exclusive competition site let me know but you guys have the best advice as I have found the general nutrition community knows nothing of what it takes to train at a high level. Try to get a fatloss plan from them and they just quote the Canada's food guide. Fat boy doesn't mean lazy boy, I still move the weight around pretty good. Thanks to all for the comments.
Fat Boy
30-06-2009, 02:38 PM
i'll lookinto this, no anabolics for me so will adjust some how, thx
Praetorian
30-06-2009, 04:17 PM
Fat Boy, if you are going to follow my advice DO NOT add in the oatmeal. If you do you will not get into ketosis, you will feel like shit, you wont get the results you want. People think adding a small amout of carbs will help them...NOT TRUE....on a keto diet it will only hurt you big time! What you will be doing is basically teasing the brain with glucose thus effectively inhibiting the switch over to ketones as an energy source...exactly what you dont want.
P
warlock
30-06-2009, 07:53 PM
Eat lettuce, only lettuce, nothing but lettuce. them when you energy starts going down smoke some crystal meth.
You will probably loose 30 lbs in about 10 days.
Enjoy it
Socially_Inept
30-06-2009, 11:06 PM
Starvation diets are a great way to end up fatter than you started with less muscle. Lyle McDonald's diet appears to be pretty much a poster child for this.
I've run a protein sparing modified fast before with a low dose of anavar and had no muscle loss and lost a ton of fat very quickly. I really don't see how its at all possible for you to you run any sort of caloric deficit and end up fatter then you originally were. Muscle loss doesn't even start becoming that much of a risk until you get down to under 12-15% maybe, depending on the person, and even then can be avoided/minimized if you use the right tactics.
tiramisu
30-06-2009, 11:33 PM
You end up fatter because of the rebound
Your body will rapidly lower your metabolism to match the starvation intake as it goes into panic mode.
When calories are reintroduced the body puts on significant amounts fat because your metabolism has been drastically lowered.
While you are on a starvation diet your body absolutely loves to chew up muscle along with the fat loss. The 12-15% body fat number doesn't have anything to do with anything. If your body isn't getting enough protein it will use your muscle and muscle protein is a fine source of energy for your body as well.
AAS definitely help preserve muscle on a calorie deficit but if you are eating a total of 500-1000 calories per day for a month trying to lose 30 pounds in 30 days no amount of injections or pills are going to preserve muscle.
This is the reason that the vast majority of starvation dieters end up fatter and weaker than they started within a very short time after they come off of their diet.
Socially_Inept
01-07-2009, 11:30 AM
You end up fatter because of the rebound
Your body will rapidly lower your metabolism to match the starvation intake as it goes into panic mode.
When calories are reintroduced the body puts on significant amounts fat because your metabolism has been drastically lowered.
While you are on a starvation diet your body absolutely loves to chew up muscle along with the fat loss. The 12-15% body fat number doesn't have anything to do with anything. If your body isn't getting enough protein it will use your muscle and muscle protein is a fine source of energy for your body as well.
AAS definitely help preserve muscle on a calorie deficit but if you are eating a total of 500-1000 calories per day for a month trying to lose 30 pounds in 30 days no amount of injections or pills are going to preserve muscle.
This is the reason that the vast majority of starvation dieters end up fatter and weaker than they started within a very short time after they come off of their diet.
I'm not even sure if you looked at the diet I posted, and I really have no clue where you came up with the above scenarios. Like I said, I've dieted at 1000-1200 calories/day and came out stronger, leaner, no muscle loss and no rebound and all I used was a low dose of anavar.
The reason why the diet won't cause muscle breakdown, all you eat is protein, 1.5g/lb of bodyweight. The metabolic slowdown is prevented by cheat meals and refeeds to keep your metabolism going.
The 12-15% bodyfat number has alot to do with things because at those numbers you have a lot less leptin to go around and the body starts utilizing its defense mechanisms to stop you from losing fat. Someone who is 20% can lose fat much easier then someone who is at 12%, and generally won't risk any muscle loss because fat is so abundant, so you can't diet the same.
As for a rebound, that's not necessarily the diets fault, it comes down to the person's ability to control themselves. If you binge after any diet, chances are you'll end up fatter.
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