Can Var make you lazy?

[MMASTAR]

Ok, so i thought i had to be making this up but since like the second day i started taking Var, im on week 3, i have felt lazy and unmotivated. I have still been going to the gym and im doing more sets reps and weight. I spend 90 minutes there no problem, set a few new max's alredy but the whole time i feel just sort of blah. All day long it feels like im half asleep or something. I thought i was imagining this but i cant be. I looked into it and i found a few articles that said that this is possible because of anavars lack of androgenic content. One suggested that an androgen like proviron or halotestin be used to compensate for this. Ive looked into both and like the sounds of halo but not the liver toxicity, especially as im already using an oral. So i was thinking 50 mg ed split into 2 doeses of proviron might solve my problem. Any thoughts or similar experiences anyone? Thanks in advance guys.

[nitrous]

i didnt have this issue when i was on it at least

[L3]

yeah proviron is good... or some ephedirne that always makes me motivated

[MMASTAR]

ephedrine doesnt do anything for me.. i thought of lipo ex lots of guys said that amps them up.. but this is diffrent.. i just feel like my head is in a cloud..

[nitrous]

google lethargy.. bet it defines it perfectly

[dainbramaged]

I know M1T is supposed to make people lethargic but haven't heard anything about anavar. ?

[theboss]

weird...how much var are you taking? maybe the dose is a bit to high? i know people who have felt that way (clouded head) when taking too much of anything.

[MMASTAR]

i started at 40mg ed and am at 50 now, going to 60 tommorow.. any experience with proviron anyone? i heard it brings back the aggresion for workouts and training..

[tex]

perhaps you are just lazy :)

[MMASTAR]

def not

[MikeyFXD35]

I was up to 80mg and felt fine, maybe its your diet? Not enough carbs? Are you taking anything else with it.

[MMASTAR]

i am low carb but ive been lower.. its not that.. just the var.. anyone used proviron?

[nitrous]

i am low carb but ive been lower.. its not that.. just the var.. anyone used proviron?

im starting some proviron on monday but that doesnt help you now lol

[cdnsoldier]

Never has Anavar put me down.I am on it right now and loving it.Feel energetic and amazing and I'm on Test E + Var and feel great.

I have never felt low energy on Var. Quite the opposite.

[novicebuilder]

in my 6th week of var 80mg/day and feeling great! are you getting enough sleep?

[MMASTAR]

ya lots of sleep diet in check..

[novicebuilder]

what is your training regiment? if you are doing high intensity training for long periods of time that can burn you out. your body needs a break every once in a while. i usually take a week off every couple months...

[MikeyFXD35]

What is your age

[JaSIM3]

Ok, so i thought i had to be making this up but since like the second day i started taking Var, im on week 3, i have felt lazy and unmotivated. I have still been going to the gym and im doing more sets reps and weight. I spend 90 minutes there no problem, set a few new max's alredy but the whole time i feel just sort of blah. All day long it feels like im half asleep or something. I thought i was imagining this but i cant be. I looked into it and i found a few articles that said that this is possible because of anavars lack of androgenic content. One suggested that an androgen like proviron or halotestin be used to compensate for this. Ive looked into both and like the sounds of halo but not the liver toxicity, especially as im already using an oral. So i was thinking 50 mg ed split into 2 doeses of proviron might solve my problem. Any thoughts or similar experiences anyone? Thanks in advance guys.


CHECK YOUR CHOLESTEROL...........Var for some people not all but itbrings down there good cholesterol and brings up there bad cholesterol my friend had that problem with var and it ended being his cholsterol

[hyperlite32]

weird...how much var are you taking? maybe the dose is a bit to high? i know people who have felt that way (clouded head) when taking too much of anything.

Well said...

[MMASTAR]

i am 26 and i take a ton of fish oils and flax seed oil and get a lot of healthy fats.. ive been going to the gym 5 days a week.. i work outside doing construction and train mma.. but havent been to mma for 2 weeks, due to how i feel...

[theboss]

whenever i have felt like that i find getting to the gym actually helps...i feel like a dog going in...bust my ass and feel great when i leave....i think its a BP thing to be honest......work hard and get that blood flowing

[MMASTAR]

what about adding an androgen?

[MMASTAR]

k so i have been doing a ton of reading and it seems i am not the only one feeling this way.. i found several people in other forums but hardly any good articles... i found this in one forum: The lethargy your talking about is a minor dull feeling. You just get lazy. You have to stay motivated and get out of the funk. That is when you know for sure anavar is working well. Some people get it right away some don't get it at all.

In s few others it listed lethargy as a side to anavar, another suggested that the user felt this way because he was shut down, i dont think that at 50 mg ed for 3 weeks i would be completly shut down? Anywaya nothing offered a solution to this really. I still think adding proviron might help? Any suggestions from anyone with any proviron experience?

[gsxr750]

Sounds like you're pretty active bud.., gym 5x a week, construction job, mma..

I wonder if you're just not eating enough or burning yourself out? I personally haven't had this side on anavar.

[nisser]

Have you tried taking a 20 minute nap before you go to the gym? A lot of time I takke a 20-30 min nap, wake up, eat, wait 30 min then hit the gym. It helps on those days you just feel out of energy

[cdnsoldier]

k so i have been doing a ton of reading and it seems i am not the only one feeling this way.. i found several people in other forums but hardly any good articles... i found this in one forum: The lethargy your talking about is a minor dull feeling. You just get lazy. You have to stay motivated and get out of the funk. That is when you know for sure anavar is working well. Some people get it right away some don't get it at all.

In s few others it listed lethargy as a side to anavar, another suggested that the user felt this way because he was shut down, i dont think that at 50 mg ed for 3 weeks i would be completly shut down? Anywaya nothing offered a solution to this really. I still think adding proviron might help? Any suggestions from anyone with any proviron experience?


Adding proviron will most likely feel worse. You'll have an increase in DHT which can lead to other nasty stuff. And why even bother? Proviron is "supposed" to make other compounds more anaboic but it's never been proven. No one I talk to would go out of there way to add proviron to a stack.

[theboss]

yeah i agree with cdnsoldier....adding something else is not usually the answer

[MMASTAR]

Well im gonna push hard this week to get out of this slump.. hopefully i will feel better.. i will let you guys know. Thanks for the help!!

[manfreakca]

i lazy on any AS

[monkey]

I think that you simply might be overtraining.. especially now on Aas, your most likely pushing even harder then you usually do, which is wearing your body out.
I used to be a roofer when I was in university and had to learn the hard way that a physically taxing job is going to slow down your recovery significantly. Don't know if thats the case with you... but you might wanna think about it. Noting worse than training hard and not making progress because your not taking enough time to recover

[td1111]

It is possible that the moderate dose of Var is suppressing your natural testosterone, just enough to feel lethargic. Just a few days ago I was forced to add 50-100mg of Test per week because to my Primo, Eq, Var cycle, because I suddenly became depressed and incredibly tired, napping, etc.

I feel much better so I'm sure it was suppressed Test in my case.

You could always try a tiny bit of Test Prop or En Subcutaneously (IM is better/faster), to see if it feels better, but

[MMASTAR]

Just an update i upped to 60mg ed.. 20 mg every 8 hours... and have felt great for the last 2 days.. seeing some more strength increases at the gym and going back to mma tonight.. thank god!! thanks for all the help!!

[MMASTAR]

Felt great to get back to training and get a mean sweat on... looking forward to shedding some pounds.. will keep posted on progress..

[Merc63]

I am on a ton of var, 1 week in now and sleepy and lazy all day too. Once I drag my ass to the gym and get going I get some energy though.

[MMASTAR]

weird hey?? for me even when i was at the gym i was lifting more but still felt like half asleep, yawning and what not...weird.. fell great now!!

[BAM]

I never had a problem with var making me tired, in fact.. I had a definite performance boost when it came to anything like rowing, running or cycling.

[novicebuilder]

I am on a ton of var, 1 week in now and sleepy and lazy all day too. Once I drag my ass to the gym and get going I get some energy though.

what exactly is a "ton" of var?

[novicebuilder]

I never had a problem with var making me tired, in fact.. I had a definite performance boost when it came to anything like rowing, running or cycling.

same here, never had a problem with Var making me tired. i personally think other factors are involved when symptoms of tiredness are coming into play.

[Merc63]

weird hey?? for me even when i was at the gym i was lifting more but still felt like half asleep, yawning and what not...weird.. fell great now!!

Yes I get the same thing. Constantly yawning at the gym and im thinking wtf is wrong with me why do I yawn so much here.. I started going earlier in the day, seemed to help a bit. What did you do to help out with the laziness?

[MMASTAR]

i upped my dosage a bit and dose every 8 hours on the money.. i feel great now and strength is coming along nicely..

[MikeyFXD35]

Could be a lack of carbs or a vitamin imbalance, try a B12 injection.

[BAM]

m1t??

he chimes in mischeviously