Cycle assistance

[Dragon1911]

Hey guys,

Looking to put together a cycle but want to keep away from the bloat.

Anyone have any good cycles they have run in the past that have given nice lean gains without to much water retention.

[daande]

If you wanna run 8 weeks do something like

Weeks 1-8: Test Prop 100mg EOD
Weeks 1-8: Tren Ace 100mg EOD
Weeks 4-8: Winny tabs 50mg ED

[Dragon1911]

I was thinking around those lines but still fairly new so im not sure about the tren so early.

What do you think about

Test E 500/wk
Dbol 30mg/day
Proviron 50mg/day

[daande]

I was thinking around those lines but still fairly new so im not sure about the tren so early.

What do you think about

Test E 500/wk
Dbol 30mg/day
Proviron 50mg/day

Test E 500/wk = bloat
Dbol 30mg/day = bloat

Im on my first cycle right now doing Tren Ace, test prop, anavar pinning every day not a big deal.

[Dragon1911]

I dont mind the pinning ive just heard that tren is more harsh.

I know test and dbol = bloat but was wondering if adding the proviron will keep the bloat to a minimum.

[varking]

test e 500mg per week
eq 400mg per week
tbol 50mg perday...
This shouid work well
How many cycles have you done if you have done a couple say 4 or more add tren a in at 100mg E.O.D

[Dragon1911]

2 so far

Sus250 and dbol was the first
Test E and Anavar was second.

Loved the gains off the test E but the only complaint i have is the bloat.

Im dying to try tren but a bit nervous on the sides(cough, progest, anger etc).

[declan]

2 so far

Sus250 and dbol was the first
Test E and Anavar was second.

Loved the gains off the test E but the only complaint i have is the bloat.

Im dying to try tren but a bit nervous on the sides(cough, progest, anger etc).

Just do Test Prop and Anavar then. I think you could manipulate your diet and get away with less bloat even if your running test E or Sust, lessen your sodium intake and time your carb intake as well.

[Dragon1911]

Im kind of anxious to try tren. Never tried it because of all the stories ive heard but some friends have told me the gains are like test except without the bloating, more lean and strength gains which is what im looking for anyways

What would i need onhand for progestin related sides.

I always have Nolva on hand for PCT would this suffice for gyno if i catch it early enough?

Or should i keep Letro and Caber on hand as well.

[Skyblob]

gains will depend on howmuch u eat.. eat 6000cal and youl gain what you will be supposed on 6000 cal.. with tren im talking.. that roid is just fking strong.. its not like test .. its 5x times test ! :) so depends on what ur eating! im on tren and test.. im not looking to gain im on keto diet! by far i have no sides and im 5 weeks in!

[Dragon1911]

Good to know.

As i said im looking to stay lean on cycle and stay away from the bloat so sodium and carb intake will be limited on training days.

Anything you would recomend to keep bloat down while on test?