Clen question

[45's]

Is it ok to take caffeine tabs while taking clen at the same time or will that be to stressful on the heart while working out?

thanks

[Ritch]

I haven`t had any troubles so far taking caffeine with clen. Plus I combine it with many other nootropics... The first time taking both together, you may want to take 1/2 your caffeine dose if you`re just starting the clen. I should mention I don`t use much clen, usually take it in 20mcg doses, but am working my way up to hopefully 120mcg. Hope that helps.

[45's]

thanks for the help , i don't wanna have a heart attack under the squat rack.

[St]

You will be fine with a low-moderate dose of clen,and just don't drink crazy amount of coffee and you will fell fine.If you mix eca with clen then shit that can could heart problem very fast.

[45's]

thanks, i ran clen before in the past a few times but it just seems to make me lethargic with the jitters. so i figure why not use caffieine to help give me a boost while on clen.

[Ritch]

You will be fine with a low-moderate dose of clen,and just don't drink crazy amount of coffee and you will fell fine.If you mix eca with clen then shit that can could heart problem very fast.

That`s good to know. Been using about 12 mg of ephedrine pre workout with the clen. Do you think using doses below 16 mg can cause heart problems?

[45's]

i always thought that eca and clen hit the same receptors and would be over kill.

[KINE]

when I used clen i couldn't even walk by a timmy's or i'd suffer a heart attack.

[arg]

not a good idea in my opinion... i cant even handle 50mcg of clen, shit gets me wired and shakey!!!

[IronMan]

I would not take clen and eca together ever. Why on earth would you need more? Clen and ephedrine are beta 2 and beta 3 agonists and supposedly can fight for the same receptors. Even if they dont, one or the other should be working at a good dose for you. If your not losing enough fat off one or the other at a good dose, your diet/training/cardio must not be fined tuned enough and you must be doing something wrong with one of those 3 things. Not needed and too much stress to run both at the same time on your body.

[arg]

clen isn't even that good of a fat burner IMO. It causes most people to loose fat due to it's appetite suppression and slight thermogenic effect. I find T3 to work much much better for fat loss. clen hurts my chest as well...yikes!