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manfreakca
18-06-2009, 02:05 PM
new laws have come into play it just gets worse.Now u get caught drinkin its 3 day suspension not just 12 hours.And if your caught talkin on a cell while drivin its a 500 dollar fine!!fuk me!

natenator
18-06-2009, 02:06 PM
I def. agree with the drinking. In fact, I think it should be even heftier.

deleteduser0002
18-06-2009, 02:09 PM
Same here...I also happen to agree with heavy fines for talking on a cell while driving. I've lost count how many accidents I've narrowly averted because some ****tard was talking on a phone and not paying attention to the road. About as dangerous as a drunk driver IMO.

tiramisu
18-06-2009, 02:09 PM
... and the problem is?

manfreakca
18-06-2009, 02:09 PM
i agree with the tuffer laws specially for alcholics,but me i hardley drink and wat if i do one time,and have a good meal with it then get caught,and get 3 days susp,thats not fair!!specially if i hardley drink.

natenator
18-06-2009, 02:16 PM
i agree with the tuffer laws specially for alcholics,but me i hardley drink and wat if i do one time,and have a good meal with it then get caught,and get 3 days susp,thats not fair!!specially if i hardley drink.
what part of motor vehicle and responsibility don't you understand?

macka
18-06-2009, 02:48 PM
You shouldn't be drinking and driving anyways, be it one glass of vino with your supper, or a 40 pounder with your buddies. Why give some idiot room to sue you?

Sean Summers
18-06-2009, 04:05 PM
I thought that the cell phone ban doesn't come into effect until Fall 09?
SS

LIVEHARD
18-06-2009, 04:08 PM
i agree with the tuffer laws specially for alcholics,but me i hardley drink and wat if i do one time,and have a good meal with it then get caught,and get 3 days susp,thats not fair!!specially if i hardley drink.

Take a cab

if it's makes you feel better relaxed

your in a altered state period

LIVEHARD
18-06-2009, 04:10 PM
I thought that the cell phone ban doesn't come into effect until Fall 09?
SS

Technology

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BritishColumbian
18-06-2009, 04:11 PM
new laws have come into play it just gets worse.Now u get caught drinkin its 3 day suspension not just 12 hours.And if your caught talkin on a cell while drivin its a 500 dollar fine!!fuk me!

we are talking about saving lives here, but you think they are out to get you. Its not all about you. You are being silly, think about it.

I have lost loved ones to drunk drivers, one was only a baby.
I see idiots on their cell phones driving wrecklessly every ****ing day.

Wheres the NEG rep when I need it.

LIVEHARD
18-06-2009, 04:12 PM
I def. agree with the drinking. In fact, I think it should be even heftier.

In 7 states three felony convictions for DUI and its life in the bucket

Its about time !!!!!!!!

RagingRandy
18-06-2009, 04:18 PM
The problem with this law is that you are convicted on the spot without the access to a lawyer or the courts. You are charged and convicted by the cop and the breathalyzer equipment. This is the same as having your car and licensed yanked because the radar gun said you were 50 over. There is no appeal process for this. This is just one more step in eroding our rights.

RagingRandy
18-06-2009, 04:19 PM
In 7 states three felony convictions for DUI and its life in the bucket

Its about time !!!!!!!!

But those are court convictions, not simply relying on the whim of some cop.

LIVEHARD
18-06-2009, 04:23 PM
The problem with this law is that you are convicted on the spot without the access to a lawyer or the courts. You are charged and convicted by the cop and the breathalyzer equipment. This is the same as having your car and licensed yanked because the radar gun said you were 50 over. There is no appeal process for this. This is just one more step in eroding our rights.

Yea !! To many guilty drivers are in denial

50 over way off side. smell booze fail test jail the F"Kn drunk

try for bail on Monday

Sorry i have no time for it

i watched a kid on a bike get hit i will never forget that

LIVEHARD
18-06-2009, 04:30 PM
But those are court convictions, not simply relying on the whim of some cop.

If you pass the breath test your free to go if you fail and you know your sober
request a blood test

If you have been drinking sorry !!

We all know better

If there are other people in the car or if there is a child in the car 5 year suspension on the spot

RagingRandy
18-06-2009, 04:34 PM
^^^^^ You would love living in a communist police state. Give it a try for a year, if you can handle that long, and get back to me. I can help you get settled in Cuba if you wish.

BritishColumbian
18-06-2009, 04:53 PM
I dont understand the grey area???? You were dinking and driving OR You were NOT drinking and driving? pretty straight forward. I agree the cops can be dicks about it but here in canada you are inocent untill proven guilty in a court of law. And if you have enough money to spend it doesnt even matter if you were guilty.

massmachine
18-06-2009, 05:39 PM
I def. agree with the drinking. In fact, I think it should be even heftier.

I concur. Your D/L also gets seized and you hafta pay $115 I think to get it back from MTO...

macka
18-06-2009, 05:53 PM
Yea !! To many guilty drivers are in denial

50 over way off side. smell booze fail test jail the F"Kn drunk

try for bail on Monday

Sorry i have no time for it

i watched a kid on a bike get hit i will never forget that

I disagree with how the 50 over is done, I don't think the police should be able to take the car for 7 days without a court appearance. I do think that they should make the 50 over a criminal charge, and if you are found guilty in court, you forfeit your car, or if it isn't your car, you have the choice of jail or a 10 G fine and no matter what a license suspension. that would be a better deterrent.

simone
18-06-2009, 06:50 PM
This new drinking law is total BS ....

Now don't get me wrong.... drinking and driving is bad and being 0.08 over you should get in shit..

BUT THIS IS ANOTHER HUMAN RIGHT VIOLATION.

YOU ARE GUILTY BY A COP!!!!
AND THE ****ERS REPORT IT TO YOUR INSURANCE AND YOUR INSURANCE WILL GO UP!

you can't appeal it.... if you need a car to get to work and commute your are screwed..

I have no problem lower it to 0.05.. BUT not in the way they're doing it.

people say its a privledge to drive is not applicable argument either.. u pay for the right to drive when the government takes your tax money.

now the cell phone I'M TOTALLY IN.... BUT WE SHOULD BE TAKING PHOTOS EVERY TIME WE SEE A COP ON A CELL PHONE AND MAIL IT IN

simone
18-06-2009, 06:54 PM
I think some of you need to look at the big picture here also... YES drinking and driving causes deaths...

but so does alcohol use.. . so what is next prohibition?? we just keep losing our rights and people need to stand up to the shit.

Does 0.05 to 0.08 really make a difference??? not getting enough sleep probably makes more of a difference.... this law is all about giving the cops more power.

macka
18-06-2009, 07:12 PM
I concur. Your D/L also gets seized and you hafta pay $115 I think to get it back from MTO...

what about if you are found not guilty because the cop screwed up and violated your rights? Basically your screwed until you go to court. IMO cops should be enforcing the law, not making legal decisions, and that is what is a violation of our rights. After a highspeed chase or a stressful apprehension there isn't a cop who can remain objective, as they have a tonne of adrenaline running through their system.