Tbol as anticatabolic during clen t3 cycle

[GitErDun]

just got a line on some super cheap tbol from a reliable local source. If this is aggreeable ill be saving quite a bit of $$$ as opposed to my last proposed cycle.

what are your thoughts on using it during this cycle?


1-8 Cytomel(T3) 100mcg ED (4 Day Ramp up & Down)
1-8 Clenbuterol 100mcg ED (Or Ramp Up To Max Tolerance)
2-8 Ketotifen 2mg ED (Taken Before bed)

im thinking of running it 12 weeks at 50mg ED, i am aware of the dangers associated with long term oral use. I will be using liv52 as well as milk thistle extract if i go this route. I have been researching tbol, and many are in aggreement that it is just slightly more toxic then anavar, which would clasify it as a mild sterod IMHO. I also have hcg and nolva on hand for PCT purposes if your wondering.

Im also interested in others experiences with it as this may influence my decision one way or another.

[JonnyO]

I find Tbol to be relatively mild, comparable to Anavar. You should be good to go with 12 weeks.

How come you plan to only use Tbol with the Clen/T3?

[GitErDun]

to be honest, i only want to drop bf... i wanna save the heavy androgens/anabolics fo my next bulker... i figure in this manor i wont need to take as much time off following pct of this cycle... pretty much go straight into a lean bulk.... plus ill be doing some travelling during his cycle.. and its muc easier to carry orals only along with me, then pins and oils ect ect...

[JonnyO]

I see, well good luck you;ll be good to go.

[BCprick]

tbol is good drug, underused imo. but mild like var
but i love var

[GitErDun]

thanks for the replies...

always nice to know what people thing...

keep em comin..

also, anyone ran tbol alone before, or a cycle like im proposing? what were your results?

[gsxr750]

I would keep your HCG and just use nolva if required at the end of the 'cycle'..

I've ran Turinabol but at the same time as Anavar so I can't really comment on it individually. I liked the combination though, seemed to keep my strength from diminishing too much while in a calorie defecit.

TBOL gets good reviews like DBOL without water retention. Smart-Tony loves this stuff.. maybe he can chime in.

[GitErDun]

yea, thats why im thinkin tbol, from the research ive done only a handful had negative things to say about it, while the vast majority had nothing but good stuff to say.

[GitErDun]

any other opinions thoughts peoples?

[St]

T-bol is my new favorite,since furazabol is off the market.In the book Inside The East German Doping Machine they studied and noticed that they could get 12 weeks out before the stress was placed on the organs,or affect the HDL.So you can get a extra 4 week compare to B-Dol when they experimented.Just to let you know there was still long term effect from many years of long cycling this drug as teen,mainly heart.

[GitErDun]

T-bol is my new favorite,since furazabol is off the market.In the book Inside The East German Doping Machine they studied and noticed that they could get 12 weeks out before the stress was placed on the organs,or affect the HDL.So you can get a extra 4 week compare to B-Dol when they experimented.Just to let you know there was still long term effect from many years of long cycling this drug as teen,mainly heart.


thanks for the reply St

so basically i should be fine running it 12 weeks then eh?

im very excited to get bf down, so i can get on a nice long lean bulker

afterward lol :)

[GitErDun]

^^^any more opinions^^^

[GitErDun]

well screw it lol

dropping the tbol

how does 100m prop and 100mg masteron EOD for 10 weeks sound instead?

might as well do it right?

[td1111]

I would keep your HCG and just use nolva if required at the end of the 'cycle'..

I've ran Turinabol but at the same time as Anavar so I can't really comment on it individually. I liked the combination though, seemed to keep my strength from diminishing too much while in a calorie defecit.

TBOL gets good reviews like DBOL without water retention. Smart-Tony loves this stuff.. maybe he can chime in.

Did you use Tbol and Var alone with nothing else? Just wondering if they can be run with no test, but some HCG bi-weekly to keep natural test levels normal.

[GitErDun]

ive never used tbol, but i have used var alone @ 50mg ED for 8 weeks...

i actually like this cycl alot

many would suggest u add test to any cycle, but IMO it really depends on your goals

HCG wouldnt be necesary for var only, i know i never needed it

i wouldnt think you would need it with tbol either, but its always good to have on hand.

like i said, it really all depends on your goals

if you wanna get big... go with a long acting test...

1st cycle id say
1-12 test E 500mg/wk
1-4 dbol 50mg ED (optional)
adex .25mg ED to keep bloat down

hcg
clomid PCT
nolva

great 1st cycle

hope this helps

[hush]

just got a line on some super cheap tbol from a reliable local source. If this is aggreeable ill be saving quite a bit of $$$ as opposed to my last proposed cycle.

what are your thoughts on using it during this cycle?


1-8 Cytomel(T3) 100mcg ED (4 Day Ramp up & Down)
1-8 Clenbuterol 100mcg ED (Or Ramp Up To Max Tolerance)
2-8 Ketotifen 2mg ED (Taken Before bed)

im thinking of running it 12 weeks at 50mg ED, i am aware of the dangers associated with long term oral use. I will be using liv52 as well as milk thistle extract if i go this route. I have been researching tbol, and many are in aggreement that it is just slightly more toxic then anavar, which would clasify it as a mild sterod IMHO. I also have hcg and nolva on hand for PCT purposes if your wondering.

Im also interested in others experiences with it as this may influence my decision one way or another.

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[nitrous]

TBOL gets good reviews like DBOL without water retention. Smart-Tony loves this stuff.. maybe he can chime in.

a lot of people seem to like it.. personally i didnt like it at all

[nitrous]

well screw it lol

dropping the tbol

how does 100m prop and 100mg masteron EOD for 10 weeks sound instead?

might as well do it right?

masteron should only be used if your bodyfat is really low already so i'd say that sounds bad lol

[saint01]

you asked a question about whether anyone has run tbol alone before. Due to work travel, I am forced to usually run orals, and tbol is by far my favorite. About 3 months ago, I finished an 8 week cycle of tbol only and put on about 15 lbs of solid muscle. I love the stuff. I don't like the dbol bloat and am very sensitive to test, as I am prone to gyno problems. the only thing that I feel like you really have to watch with tbol is your blood pressure. Mine started to go up, so I backed off the dose and everything was fine.

I am about to start a tbol and t3 cycle as well. i'd be interested to see how your's is coming.

[saint01]

wtf....didn't post my reply