the colorado experiment

[bottleneckblooz]

What do you guys think? Is it fact or fiction? If you've never heard of it see the link below. Apparently Casey Viator while training with Arthur Jones gained 63 lbs of muscle in 28 days. Supposedly it was a University study and all the results were fully documented. I personally don't think that the human body would even have the ability to gain that much muscle so fast. That's 2.25 lbs of muscle per day! What do you guys think?

http://www.bodybuildingfanatic.com/coloradoexperiment.htm

[Mr.Freeze]

impossible unless there be fvking aroud with his myostatin but then again!!!!:confused:

[Strateg0s]

If you read the article, Viator had been in an accident and lost 34 pounds of muscle. He had not trained for four months solid prior to the experiment, plus he had phenomenal genetics.

The author says no steroids were involved, and maybe he believed that (apparently he was rabidly anti-steroid), but it doesn't mean that they weren't. Viator could have done something like a reverse contest preparation prior to the experiment. And really hit the sauce the second it started. 60 pounds of muscle in a month is an absurd amount, however you cut it, but 34 pounds of it were just getting back to where things were four months back, and it doesn't say what best muscle mass ever was. Maybe he'd trained completely natural up to 230 or something, and then used this experiment to get back to there and then some. In an interview Viator stated that "The study was a lesson in muscle memory" and that they knew in advance that he'd gain that kind of muscle.

The results in that period of time stretch credulity, and Jones clearly had a pro Nautilus, pro H.I.T. agenda, but without gear no way could it happen. Show me 24/7 video surveillance of Viator sitting in solitary confinement for that month, or I'm not going to buy that bridge. Viator went from 167 to 213 while losing 17 pounds of fat... In the Westpoint study on cadet-athletes, their strength went up pretty phenomenally over 8 weeks of HIT-Nautilus training, but their muscle masses remained the same (actually decreasing by a pound, averaged over 19 subjects). So yeah, Viator's success, if it is remotely plausible, had to involve some serious gear use, muscle memory, and nutritional control.

[Hobo4hire]

its muscle memory

[MIAGIONJUS]

i think its bs

[ergie]

i think its bs

I'm thinking so too

[bottleneckblooz]

Yeah, to get anywhere near those results, muscle memory or not, he would have to be doing some kinda gear, orals no doubt, for them to be working that fast. The 43 net lbs he gained COULD be possible I guess, but I'm thinking the 17lb fat loss is BS or miscalculated. If you look at the pics he doesn't look 17lbs leaner.

[ergie]

I think I do want to slap your ass :)

[Gib]

Sounds like the marketing you see in the back of magazines.

Is this a bowflex ad??

[L.W.]

Its fiction. Boyer Coe had alot to say about it in the 70's. I think in Muscle builder mag. Dave Fisher also had some great insights, according to Casey he was around 3% bodyfat afterwards....but look at the pic. He is far from ripped.

[L.W.]

Most HIT (Jones Mentzer) stuff is lies or exagerated.

FLEX had a good write up on their BS about 6 months ago so did Greg Zulak in Musclemag back in the late 90's. Greg detailed how Mike REALLY trained.

Even Arthur Jones turned his back on HIT later on (once he sold Nautalis) saying it was all marketing.

Mike claimed to have dozens of clients gaining 30lbs per month in the late 90's...but never ONCE published any pics to back up his claim. Not once. Go figure...

[AlbertaBeef]

Wow LW!!! Haven't seen you around the boards in a while. Good to see ya.