Toremifene?

[Bowlcut]

Well guys Fareston/Toremifen has been around for quite some time now and I was wondering who has actually given it a try?
Please provide some info if you have it.

[BloodRage]

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[TheBigStink]

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[AlbertaBeef]

I plan on using it after next cycle, I have heard too many good things about it. It is less toxic than nolva, has positive effects on cholesterol/blood lipids and works faster than all other SERMs in PCT for most people. I am also looking at raloxifene which also has high reviews and increases serum testosterone. As far as protocol I am planning for toremifene @ 120mg for 5-7 days and 60mg for 2 weeks.
More info would be great.

[Strateg0s]

Toremifene is more like a replacement for clomid than for nolva (raloxifene is the superior replacement for nolva).

I have not personally used toremifene because I had not been able to acquire any, but all anecdotal reports I've heard have been that its use is far superior to anything else for recovery of your natural test production post-cycle.

[tarnow]

What's the common dosing with Toremifene and for how long? I've heard various protocols. Is Nolva totally excluded from PCT while taking Toremifene? Sorry for all the questions, but there is too much speculative theory about this chemical and not enough real life experience feed back.

EDIT: Just read the toremifene profile in Anabolics 2006 and it was pretty much useless. It only states that it has positive effects on the lipid profile and cholesterol, and that a dose of 60mg is comparable to 20mg of Nolva. So based on this would a dosing schedule of 120/120/60/60mg for 4 weeks be an appropriate PCT? If anyone can chime in on this or has access to Anabolics 2007 with more info that would appreciated.

[Bowlcut]

It is interesting stuff. I am considering running some because I have already done two PCT's after my last cycle and nothing. Personally HRT would not be a bad idea. Long story about that though.

[tarnow]

It is interesting stuff. I am considering running some because I have already done two PCT's after my last cycle and nothing. Personally HRT would not be a bad idea. Long story about that though.

What was your cycle?

[Bowlcut]

What was your cycle?

600mg/week of test E 10 weeks
~100mg/week of transdermal test
500mg/week of Deca for 8 weeks
40mg/dbol kickstart for 25 days

Not a long cycle as my older bro took all my gear from me. Lucky I had my nolva and aromasin disguised in supplement containers, but he jacked my clomid too.

I ran nolva in pct for 5 weeks at a standard dose and the aromasin for 4 weeks.

Ran nolva again 2 months after the fact and still my LH and FSH are <0.2 IU/L. Prolactin is normal though.

I might run some toremifine but that said my natural test leves were ~12-14 nmol/dl before I ever started cycling so it's not like my hemeostasis ever did me any good. I went on Viagra in grade 11 because I had problems get erections and now I have a legit script for Cialis that I never fill for the simple reason I can't afford $15 per erection. LOL

It's a long story really. Off cycle if I manage an intense erection my spermatic cords essentially swell up and it feels as if I have been kicked in the junk permanently. On cycle when the boys shrink a bit I never had this concern. random eh?

[tarnow]

600mg/week of test E 10 weeks
~100mg/week of transdermal test
500mg/week of Deca for 8 weeks
40mg/dbol kickstart for 25 days

Not a long cycle as my older bro took all my gear from me. Lucky I had my nolva and aromasin disguised in supplement containers, but he jacked my clomid too.

I ran nolva in pct for 5 weeks at a standard dose and the aromasin for 4 weeks.

Ran nolva again 2 months after the fact and still my LH and FSH are <0.2 IU/L. Prolactin is normal though.

I might run some toremifine but that said my natural test leves were ~12-14 nmol/dl before I ever started cycling so it's not like my hemeostasis ever did me any good. I went on Viagra in grade 11 because I had problems get erections and now I have a legit script for Cialis that I never fill for the simple reason I can't afford $15 per erection. LOL

It's a long story really. Off cycle if I manage an intense erection my spermatic cords essentially swell up and it feels as if I have been kicked in the junk permanently. On cycle when the boys shrink a bit I never had this concern. random eh?

That's weird bro. Probably best bet is to go talk to an endo or a urologist to see if they can help.

[BAM]

UG Nolva?

I'm not a fan of UG capsule ancillaries.



Not a long cycle as my older bro took all my gear from me. Lucky I had my nolva and aromasin disguised in supplement containers, but he jacked my clomid too.

I ran nolva in pct for 5 weeks at a standard dose and the aromasin for 4 weeks.

Ran nolva again 2 months after the fact and still my LH and FSH are <0.2 IU/L. Prolactin is normal though.

[Bowlcut]

That's weird bro. Probably best bet is to go talk to an endo or a urologist to see if they can help.

I've seen two urologists, and one endo in the past year and no help. I even told one of the urologists about my gear use and asked him if there was anything he would do. His reply was "your testosterone will come back on its own". If you say so boss :rolleyes:

I see a third two weeks friday so maybe he can help.

Bam it was UG nolva, but it is from a lab with an amazing rep. No problems with any of their gear so why would I suspect any with their nolva, aromasin, etc?

[BAM]

Bam it was UG nolva, but it is from a lab with an amazing rep. No problems with any of their gear so why would I suspect any with their nolva, aromasin, etc?

I just like HG or equiv when it comes to nolva/clomid. KNowing the importance of pct, I guess I just trust it more. Puts my mind at ease I guess.

How much of your gains did you keep?

[Bowlcut]

I just like HG or equiv when it comes to nolva/clomid. KNowing the importance of pct, I guess I just trust it more. Puts my mind at ease I guess.

How much of your gains did you keep?

I did keep a fair bit of my gains, but for the past 4 months my test levels have been sub normal so I am extremely diligent in eating a proper intervals. I have noticed that even though I have cut grains out of my diet I am not able to loose abdominal fat which is quite annoying.

Remember sometimes HG can be underdosed. One group did a study of pink thais and found them underdosed by ~30%.
That said usually things like nolva or clomid are not made by suspect HG labs.

[Baconbits]

I'm about to use Tormifene for the first time in three days. I will let you know how it turns out. I know torm. increases igf and nolva decreases igf, therefore I'm going to stack it with Clomid even though I probably don't need it. (got some extra lying around). I used HCG through out my cycle, so this PCT should be a quick recovery. The doseage I will be taking is 150/100/50/50 of torm (50mg caps) I'll let you know how it turns out

[Bowlcut]

I'm about to use Tormifene for the first time in three days. I will let you know how it turns out. I know torm. increases igf and nolva decreases igf, therefore I'm going to stack it with Clomid even though I probably don't need it. (got some extra lying around). I used HCG through out my cycle, so this PCT should be a quick recovery. The doseage I will be taking is 150/100/50/50 of torm (50mg caps) I'll let you know how it turns out

Please do so. Thanks for the input.

[St]

I'm about to use Tormifene for the first time in three days. I will let you know how it turns out. I know torm. increases igf and nolva decreases igf, therefore I'm going to stack it with Clomid even though I probably don't need it. (got some extra lying around). I used HCG through out my cycle, so this PCT should be a quick recovery. The doseage I will be taking is 150/100/50/50 of torm (50mg caps) I'll let you know how it turns out

I know this is a old thread but has anyone else gave this stuff a shot?
Would like to try it soon if people were happy with it.

[gixxman]

I've used it with much success....i don't use nolva or clomid just toremifene

Week 1: 120mg
Week 2: 60mg
Week 3: 30mg
Week 4: 30mg

[St]

I've used it with much success....i don't use nolva or clomid just toremifene

Week 1: 120mg
Week 2: 60mg
Week 3: 30mg
Week 4: 30mg

Cool thanks bro.