PCT log, after 16 week test/deca run

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Cycle :

wk 1-16 500mg ramping up to 1100 test e/wk
wk 1-14 300mg ramping up to 600 deca/wk

PCT :

wk 12-18 500iu HCG EOD
wk 14-22 25mg Aromasin
wk 14-24 20mg Nolva

I started taking the HCG a couple weeks before the nolva and aro cause of the number of pills i had. It wasnt a problem. I am nearing the end of my HCG now (im in week 17) and im not too sure that 500iu EOD is enough to grow the boys back in 40 days. They were pretty shrunk, and only seemed to have grown back a bit, and firmed up a little.

Once the deca ran out of me i felt a definite relief in muscle pressure. Lost about 5lb of water quick. The test kept me lifting, but as the deca left and the estrogen cutting started the joints started to get sore.

The test is a few days away from running out of me completely at which time the HCG therapy will be over. That first week im taking off cause the joints need it bad.

Following my week off I will be lightening up the weight a bit and upping the reps to 10 rep range for a while. Im stopping the pull'push routine and going back into the 4 day split. Once the estrogen therapy is over ill ramp up slowly again as my body gets back to homeostasis.

Ill keep a log here of my post cycle side effects and document how well the HCG/nolva/aromasin regimen is working for me.

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[SmallieBigs]

Lookin' forward to it bro, since i'm just entering week 4 of my test/deca cycle (with dbol kickstart)... hope it's great!

I know everyone's different, but at 600 mgs/week of deca did you notice any progesterone sides?

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Lookin' forward to it bro, since i'm just entering week 4 of my test/deca cycle (with dbol kickstart)... hope it's great!

I know everyone's different, but at 600 mgs/week of deca did you notice any progesterone sides?

I had no problem with gyno. Keep in mind i was only at that level for a few weeks at the end, as i was ramping up in order to find a sweet spot. I found it at about 800mg test and 500mg deca/week. Another thing i would have done different since deca shuts you down so HARD is take HCG at 300IU e3d until about 3 weeks after last deca shot. Pct would start around same time that i did.

Gotta love the bread and butter stack your doin... great gains in size, strength, and deca keeps the joints healthy. I could do without the backnee tho ;)

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[SmallieBigs]

haha.. ya, no backnee for me yet... only entering 4th week though.... As for the HCG, I'll try and take your advice....

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Definitely feeling the strength loss for now. Test is almost completely gone, and my natty test is prolly just starting to putz along. Also, cutting estrogen is causing all kinds of aches if i lift heavy, so of course im taking it easy as i said before.

Libido has leveled off, not dropping anymore... matter of fact, ramping up a bit. Morning wood and all that. Signs of HCG doing its magic? Also, general test lethargy is dropping, starting to sleep a little better too. Body is feeling more and more limber. Sitting at about 204 currently. Peaked at 211.5. Last HCG shot falls on sunday (6 days from now) and nolva/aro will continue for a few weeks after that. Until then, its light lifting at the gym.

Week off next week. Sore right shoulder, bicep and wrist. Left elbow and trap. Miss the estrogen there lol...

This week ive moved back to the 4 day split. Chest/tri's, shoulders/traps/calves, back/bi's, legs. One hour per day lifting. Reps to 10 for now, lighter of course, or the aches start. Dropping daily calorie intake to about 2500, will drop more soon.

Also feeling a bit more chilled out too, which is nice.

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strange... im up 3 pounds. Libido is up and down a bit, lifting heavy still makes me sore.

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Im taking 400mg of ibuprofen before a workout cause of the sore arms. Libibdo seems to have dropped off a cliff over the last couple days, the g/f has her work cut out for her lol - good thing she is a 10 ;)

On average, i have dropped my weight by as little as 10% for now, and a couple things are down 15% for sore body parts. I believe that when im done my estrogen cutting (3-4 weeks after last HCG shot) I wont be so sore.

Starting LipoEx in 3 days when i do my last HCG. Going to start cutting diet then. Man, I really suck at cutting. Weighing in at 207 right now, hoping to cut down to 190 lean.

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WHOA hit the scale today at 201.5! Wow what a plummet! Test is officially all gone. Did my last shot of HCG today. Raging hardon in the morning so thats good. Started LipoEx today also, so the yohimbine may also gimme a libido kick. I believe the water weight is shedding quickly, and It wont be long before i drop another 5 pounds.

Gonna get the diet clean for the next couple of months and see how lean I can get. Joints are still sore, will be for the next few weeks as i continue estrogen cutting and wait for my natty test to start back up.

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Well, im back up to about 205, that drop must have just been dehydration. The bacne is irritating, but ill live. I dont feel stiff at all any more from ultra swollen muscles. Im on my week off now, just taking my nolva and aromasin. Libido is still OK, the previously mentioned joints are still a little sore, and im sleeping better. Started taking the lipoex, but WOW, im hyper sensitive to that shit! 1 pill and im shaking like a leaf! I have a bit of a leftover belly from bulking, so im thinking i may settle in at around 190 if i eat right. Those are my biggest downfalls - eating clean and NOT drinking whiskey on the weekends!

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Still cruising along on 20mg nolva and 25mg aro ED. Dropping the aro to 12.5 today and the nolva to 10. Decided my body is ready to recover now, feel pretty good. Also, back to work tomoro and i dont think my elbows and wrists will take much physical labour while cutting estro. Prolly gonna be done PCT in a week or 2. Balls are back to size, test seems a little low but OK, libido is alright. Will get my bloods done in about a month to see where i sit.

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weighed in at 199.8 this morning, so im on my way down. Feel pretty mellow. Libido is kinda low. Im on 10mg nolva and 12.5mg aromasin for this week. Going back to the gym today, I have a feeling ill be lifting pretty light.

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Sitting at about 198.5 now. Stopped the aromasin a couple days after my last post, then ran nolva for a week longer. Stopped the nolva couple days ago. Feeling a bit tired, however still pretty strong at the gym if i push it. Libido is about 50% normal, although no trouble getting it up ;)

My diet is not spot on, Im cheating a couple times a week. The acne on my upper back and shoulders is NUTTY, but it will clear in a couple months. I have 10000000000 blackheads and a few whiteheads UGH i hate them.

My injuries that occured during the heaviest lifting stage have mostly healed, like my right wrist (strain), and left elbow (tendon strain from skull crushers). However, i believe ive done some damage to my right shoulder. My center delt seems to be really pulled, or perhaps i have some small tear. I cant do side laterals, or any heavy incline bench without pain. I will be getting it scanned soon to see. Other than that, everything seems to be on track, im still holding size pretty well.

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