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[Gemini]

Hi, after many years of hard work at the gym, meal planning and research I decided to join the dark side and try out anabolics. Most people told me to go on a test e cycle for about 8-12 weeks 400-500mg. Does is sound like a good cycle for my first time with anabolic steroids.

Stats: age: 21, height: 6'0, weight: 190, bfp: 13%. My metabolism is crazy fast.

Thanks a bunch

[Drummer]

Hi, after many years of hard work at the gym, meal planning and research I decided to join the dark side and try out anabolics. Most people told me to go on a test e cycle for about 8-12 weeks 400-500mg. Does is sound like a good cycle for my first time with anabolic steroids.

Stats: age: 21, height: 6'0, weight: 190, bfp: 13%. My metabolism is crazy fast.

Thanks a bunch

I would say your too young, but most people dont listen anyway. Also, your underweight for your height, id say you could go over 200 natural easy. Its a myth that people are hard gainers to the point where your stuck. Its all about proper volume and type of calories, and of course training and rest. Not all are created equal, so it may be that you need more calories than the next guy, and maybe harder training to achieve a higher natural weight.

That being said, with only 2 posts, asking for cycle advice may make a few people queasy around here. However, if you choose to ignore all of the above advice (which you likely will) 250mg test e every 4 days will be plenty. Run about 12 weeks. Dont stack or take any anti-e's unless you find you need it. A short, proper PCT should be included and ON HAND before you even start.

~D~

[baza]

That is fine for a first cycle. You need proper nutrition before taking anything. I can't stand hearing I eat and eat and can't grow.

[OntariOMuscle101]

Check Your DIET, DIET, DIET thats what its about and of course train your a$$ off...

[BritishColumbian]

Welcome to the board, why dont you write out what you eat in an average day and be honest, we are here to help you, Taking AAS at such a young age could have a very negative effect on your natural test production permenently. But if you throw caution to the wind and wont listen, at least do it right with proper diet/train/rest ~BC

[hulkster]

i gave a really good first cycle on anouther post but i took it a bit too extreme for my first time. for first timers tren en is unreal (200mg eod) but it also carries alot of water retention with it so test, dbol, andro are all examples of bad shit to mix with it if you wanna stay ripped looking. also with tren cardio can be a bitch (tren cough) so i mix EQ at 600 mg eod during and for 12 weeks afterwards my cycle.

keep it simple your first time man, and never ever go full dose your first week

[hulkster]

also i was 16 when i first tried juice and it didnt really **** me over except a lil anger problems

[SmallieBigs]

don't listen to hulkster, you don't really have a need for AAS at your age, but if you choose to use anyways, you don't need 3 or 4 different compounds... and especially not something that can be as harsh as tren (not just talkin' about a cough either). A simple 12-16 week cycle of Test C/E @ around 400-500mgs/week will do you wonders, for your 1st time.... Maybe, throw in a dbol kickstart for 4 weeks, but you don't really need that.

Most reasonable people on here would agree, that it's good to begin with the basics (test only) to see how your body reacts to each compound on its own. Not to mention, at 4-500 mgs/week, that is a tonne more test than your body creates naturally. If you don't see excellent results, then your diet and training are off... If this is the case, it doesn't matter how much of what you stick in your body, you ain't gettin' results bro!!!

If you have more questions, please feel free to ask, we are (mostly) here to help and make sure nobody does anything stupid, and support each other in making smart decisions leading to amazing results. When asking questions in the forums, you may want to lean toward a general consensus (and not one or two people who are talkin' out their ass... even if you like what they say).

Anyways, I just woke up... it's early.... had to feed the lil' one.... sorry if i rambled or came off as harsh... I just hate seein' new peeps gettin' unsafe advice... Take care and train hard.....

[tex]

i gave a really good first cycle on anouther post but i took it a bit too extreme for my first time. for first timers tren en is unreal (200mg eod) but it also carries alot of water retention with it so test, dbol, andro are all examples of bad shit to mix with it if you wanna stay ripped looking. also with tren cardio can be a bitch (tren cough) so i mix EQ at 600 mg eod during and for 12 weeks afterwards my cycle.

keep it simple your first time man, and never ever go full dose your first week
not to be a dick but dont give anyone advice EVER again.....that is the dumbest shit I have ever heard in my 1200+ posts on here.....100mg a day of tren e for a 1st cycle?!?!

[SmallieBigs]

Where's the neg rep when you need it? LMAO

[gustavo77]

i gave a really good first cycle on anouther post but i took it a bit too extreme for my first time. for first timers tren en is unreal (200mg eod) but it also carries alot of water retention with it so test, dbol, andro are all examples of bad shit to mix with it if you wanna stay ripped looking. also with tren cardio can be a bitch (tren cough) so i mix EQ at 600 mg eod during and for 12 weeks afterwards my cycle.

keep it simple your first time man, and never ever go full dose your first week

Please do not post recommendations like this to young, AAS beginners. One more post like this and i will ban you...trust me, that's how seriously i take this shit.


also i was 16 when i first tried juice and it didnt really **** me over except a lil anger problems

Ya, well you may not have had any problems YET but it can still happen. Taking AAS at too young an age is one of the dumbest ****ing things a person can do... Young men have more than enough hormones in their bodies to grow. They just need to learn how to eat and train.

[natenator]

i gave a really good first cycle on anouther post but i took it a bit too extreme for my first time. for first timers tren en is unreal (200mg eod) but it also carries alot of water retention with it so test, dbol, andro are all examples of bad shit to mix with it if you wanna stay ripped looking. also with tren cardio can be a bitch (tren cough) so i mix EQ at 600 mg eod during and for 12 weeks afterwards my cycle.

keep it simple your first time man, and never ever go full dose your first week
tren carries water retention?

please explain...

[SmallieBigs]

i gave a really good first cycle on anouther post but i took it a bit too extreme for my first time. for first timers tren en is unreal (200mg eod) but it also carries alot of water retention with it so test, dbol, andro are all examples of bad shit to mix with it if you wanna stay ripped looking. also with tren cardio can be a bitch (tren cough) so i mix EQ at 600 mg eod during and for 12 weeks afterwards my cycle.

keep it simple your first time man, and never ever go full dose your first week

never go full dose your first week????

How 'bout, NEVER GO FULL RETARD!!!

[natenator]

never go full dose your first week????

How 'bout, NEVER GO FULL RETARD!!!
I'm just a dude, playing a dude, disguised as another dude :D

[SmallieBigs]

What do you mean, "you people"?

Whaddya you mean "you people"?

[natenator]

What do you mean, "you people"?

Whaddya you mean "you people"?
It was like pistol whipping a blind kid

[SmallieBigs]

^^ cue Tom Cruise dance sequence....

[theboss]

^^ cue Tom Cruise dance sequence....

tom cruise dont dance..he only mixes cock-tails.

NEVER EVER NEVER EVER LISTEN TO HULKSTER........TERRIBLE ADVISE ON EVERY POST!!!!

[SmallieBigs]

oh does he ever dance at the end of Tropic Thunder!! lol

[SmallieBigs]

Oh... and you mean 1g of test and 200mg tren eod arn't good 1st cycle suggestions??? What?.... Too weak? LMAO!!

[baza]

http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?p=204429#post204429

Seriously, guy should not be allowed to post, at all.

[BritishColumbian]

LMAO I thought I was the only one that caught the retard level of this 'hulkster'.
Thanks guys, thats some funny shit right there.

[Gemini]

thanks for all the advice guys. I appreciate it a lot

[Houstonbc]

LMAO I thought I was the only one that caught the retard level of this 'hulkster'.
Thanks guys, thats some funny shit right there.


Thats not funny thats just flat out dangerous imo!

[BritishColumbian]

Thats not funny thats just flat out dangerous imo!
I was refering to the comments below, I agree with your statement.




I'm just a dude, playing a dude, disguised as another dude :D


What do you mean, "you people"?

Whaddya you mean "you people"?


It was like pistol whipping a blind kid


^^ cue Tom Cruise dance sequence....


tom cruise dont dance..he only mixes cock-tails.

NEVER EVER NEVER EVER LISTEN TO HULKSTER........TERRIBLE ADVISE ON EVERY POST!!!!


oh does he ever dance at the end of Tropic Thunder!! lol

[kloan]

OP sounds like LE....

[tex]

^^ i agree that this sounds scripted......

[SmallieBigs]

nah... I don't think it's fair to jump to that conclusion just yet... Some people are just learning and need help, and I'd rather not alienate them into leaving and just doin' shit on their own, and end up takin' advice from some joker like the hulkster (mean gene would not be impressed)....

p.s. I thought it was all about the prayers, the training and the vitamins....

[natenator]

nah... I don't think it's fair to jump to that conclusion just yet... Some people are just learning and need help, and I'd rather not alienate them into leaving and just doin' shit on their own, and end up takin' advice from some joker like the hulkster (mean gene would not be impressed)....

p.s. I thought it was all about the prayers, the training and the vitamins....
and the wheaties... don't forget the wheaties!

[SmallieBigs]

^^^ **** man, I eat Wheaties for breakfast!!! GRRRR!!!.... No... Seriously.... Sometimes I do, with some milk and shit.... Well, not really shit, but you know what I mean right...?

Aiight, cool homeschool!

[LIVEHARD]

Hi, after many years of hard work at the gym, meal planning and research I decided to join the dark side and try out anabolics. Most people told me to go on a test e cycle for about 8-12 weeks 400-500mg. Does is sound like a good cycle for my first time with anabolic steroids.

Stats: age: 21, height: 6'0, weight: 190, bfp: 13%. My metabolism is crazy fast.

Thanks a bunch

At 21 your body hasn't even matured yet. I made that error when i was a little younger than you. If i could relive it again I would wait till i was in my later 20's maybe even my 30's that way you see when your own body and training methods might take you.

From reading it sounds to me you get allot of second hand info from the gym or you boys. Bad idea most guys at the gym unless there a real serious lifer know F'k all about AAS. Its your boby so know on can tell you what to do but if the moderators a posting warnings. RE-think your steps

If you are going to go down the dark path ? PLay safe learn read and don't rush !!!

[td1111]

Bad idea at 21. I waited until I was 30.