Short cycle, to add NPP or to not add NPP??

[bossman_1986]

week 1-6 test prop 400mg/week
week 1-6 npp 400mg/week
week 1-6 tbol 50mg/day

is there a point in using npp in this cycle or is this too short of a cycle to have npp??

[huma324]

No, it is not.

[Dk]

The npp is fine, the problem i see (maybe not for you) is the Npp dose compared to the test dose.

Libido issues at all? or is that all good with you

[juced_porkchop]

personally i feel short cycles like this are a waste of time/money.

my op:
with short esters a min of 10wks.
with long esters a min of 12-14wks.

me i like the 16-18wk range

i wouldent even bother with 6 weeks.
i mean if time was of essence and i hade to get on and off fast for some uncontrolable reez, MAYBE just MAYBE 8 wks. but 6 i wouldent even bother with.

[Avitoholis]

I'd say add the NPP or better yet add some Tren. I'm planning on doing several similar short cycles over the next 8-9 months.

[greekgod]

personally i feel short cycles like this are a waste of time/money.

my op:
with short esters a min of 10wks.
with long esters a min of 12-14wks.

me i like the 16-18wk range

i wouldent even bother with 6 weeks.
i mean if time was of essence and i hade to get on and off fast for some uncontrolable reez, MAYBE just MAYBE 8 wks. but 6 i wouldent even bother with.

Personally, I find short cycles work better for me than long ones. I once did a 6 month cycle and I found that to be a waste of money/time. Each to his own...

[greekgod]

week 1-6 test prop 400mg/week
week 1-6 npp 400mg/week
week 1-6 tbol 50mg/day

is there a point in using npp in this cycle or is this too short of a cycle to have npp??

Personally, I would choose either tbol or npp. No sense in running both. IMO, people run too many compounds in their cycles.

[theboss]

personally i feel short cycles like this are a waste of time/money.

my op:
with short esters a min of 10wks.
with long esters a min of 12-14wks.

me i like the 16-18wk range

i wouldent even bother with 6 weeks.
i mean if time was of essence and i hade to get on and off fast for some uncontrolable reez, MAYBE just MAYBE 8 wks. but 6 i wouldent even bother with.


agree..i like longer cycles...gives your body time to adjust...
and i would increase the test.....and probably use Tren Ace over NPP

[Avitoholis]

I will agree with theboss in that your body takes time to adjust to the additional muscle tissue and if you cease having an anabolic environment to soon you may end up loosing most of what you gained but with a small amount of off time and a quicker recovery you can jump right back on and do this several times a year in order to gain a similar amount of mass and hopefully never be as shut down as you would be after a long 12+ week cycle. Ultimately this is all about trial and error and what works best for you.

[waderow]

personally i feel short cycles like this are a waste of time/money.

my op:
with short esters a min of 10wks.
with long esters a min of 12-14wks.

me i like the 16-18wk range

i wouldent even bother with 6 weeks.
i mean if time was of essence and i hade to get on and off fast for some uncontrolable reez, MAYBE just MAYBE 8 wks. but 6 i wouldent even bother with.

agreed

[Skyblob]

The npp is fine, the problem i see (maybe not for you) is the Npp dose compared to the test dose.

Libido issues at all? or is that all good with you

Well to awnser your question.. per 100mg of Test P there is 80mg of test and for 100mg of NPP there is 63 mg of Nandrolone... so if you make the math : you will have

320mg Test P
252mg NPP

IMO you should be fine with your libido

[daande]

Well to awnser your question.. per 100mg of Test P there is 80mg of test and for 100mg of NPP there is 63 mg of Nandrolone... so if you make the math : you will have

320mg Test P
252mg NPP

IMO you should be fine with your libido

in 100mg of test prop should there not be 100mg of test prop? same with NPP? How does 100mg of test prop = 80mg of test prop and how does 100mg of NPP = 63m of NPP?

[Avitoholis]

The ester attached to the testosterone accounts for the remaining. Example; 100mg of test prop = 80mg of testosterone and 20mg of propionate ester.

[daande]

week 1-6 test prop 400mg/week
week 1-6 npp 400mg/week
week 1-6 tbol 50mg/day

is there a point in using npp in this cycle or is this too short of a cycle to have npp??

you should run the test 2 weeks longer than the NPP ie.

week 1-8: test prop 400mg/week
week 1-6: NPP 400mg/week
week 1-8: tbol 50mg/day