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VIPpits
08-06-2009, 01:29 AM
For someone who has no experience with AAS what would be a good first time steroid? and how much would be safe? should one be mixing different products there first time or just stick to one, I have read around the site for a while and all the abbreviations are a little confusing at times any info is appreciated.

spitfire
08-06-2009, 01:32 AM
Anavar 40mg/ed
Testosterone enanthate 500mg/week

8 week cycle.

That would be my standard first cycle recommendation. Low sides and good gains. You'll need an anti-aromatose agent like arimidex or letrozole.

Good, diet, good training and plenty of rest.

VIPpits
08-06-2009, 01:49 AM
So that would be 2 different steroids, and arimidex and letrozole are aftercare? I searched arimidex and it said something about treating hormonal women. The aftercare is what I'm most interested in could anyone post a link to some literature for me?

Danger
08-06-2009, 02:30 AM
The recommended standards for first time users are generally, Test or Primo.

Test E @ 500mg/week for 8-10 weeks seems to be a pretty common recomendation around here, seems to be a good balance of results without too much risk of side effects like spitfire said.

Arimidex is pretty much only used on cycle to control estrogen, generally clomid and nolva are the recommendations for post cycle therapy.

This link is a pretty good primer on PCT (http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4863)

declan
08-06-2009, 06:01 AM
It is highly recommended to take just Test E or Cyp for 8-10 weeks at 250-500mg per week, depending on body weight. Better start simple and learn how test affects you; sides, gains and tolerance. Most people gain even with just test for the first 3 cycles, no need to make it complicated.

talon05
08-06-2009, 06:25 AM
DECA 300 mgs per week and 400-500 mgs test that was my first cycle and i loved it

deleteduser0002
08-06-2009, 09:10 AM
It is highly recommended to take just Test E or Cyp for 8-10 weeks at 250-500mg per week, depending on body weight. Better start simple and learn how test affects you; sides, gains and tolerance. Most people gain even with just test for the first 3 cycles, no need to make it complicated.

That would be my recommendation as well. You could add something else to the test like anavar if you wanted...it wouldn't hurt. But is probably a) unnecessary to make decent gains and b) learning how you respond to individual compounds/ doses is very useful when deciding future cycles.

VIPpits
08-06-2009, 09:18 AM
How does Test make you feel? I had buddies who were taking something I don't know what but when they took whatever they took they acted all out of it, but I don't know if they were just putting on a show for me but one of them walked into a wall it was pretty ridiculous.

theboss
08-06-2009, 11:28 AM
i would go 500mg test E for 12 weeks and nothing else other than food and a good PCT.

Big D
08-06-2009, 11:45 AM
i would go 500mg test E for 12 weeks and nothing else other than food and a good PCT.

perfect 1st time cycle.

Big D
08-06-2009, 11:46 AM
How does Test make you feel? I had buddies who were taking something I don't know what but when they took whatever they took they acted all out of it, but I don't know if they were just putting on a show for me but one of them walked into a wall it was pretty ridiculous.

how old are you ?

Timbo89
08-06-2009, 12:03 PM
lol yeah, i was just thinking the same thing. Seriously bro, i wouldnt reccomend you anything. If i were you id do some research before putting things into your body. You seem to not know enough about AAS to even be considering them at this point.

tex
08-06-2009, 01:37 PM
food, training and sleep for at least 2 solid years.....then 400-500mg test e. per week for 16 weeks.....

macka
08-06-2009, 01:54 PM
i would go 500mg test E for 12 weeks and nothing else other than food and a good PCT.

x3 if you do this, eat lots of good healthy food, avoid junk food, and make sure you eat lots of green vegies and quality protein.

VIPpits
08-06-2009, 08:15 PM
lol yeah, i was just thinking the same thing. Seriously bro, i wouldnt reccomend you anything. If i were you id do some research before putting things into your body. You seem to not know enough about AAS to even be considering them at this point.

I'm 24, I thought I was doing research asking people with experience questions, I thought it was a pretty good question. Is that not what most people are here for is to learn from one another?

VIPpits
08-06-2009, 08:15 PM
how old are you ?

24

Danger
08-06-2009, 08:28 PM
Wait you can learn things on the internets? I thought this shit was just for porn lol.

VIPpits
08-06-2009, 08:29 PM
Did that post make me sound young, inexperienced? Well I am fairly young at 24 and have 0 experience and your right I should and will do lots more research before I ever jab myself but that was a sincere question.

juced_porkchop
10-06-2009, 01:45 AM
i would go 500mg test E for 12 weeks and nothing else other than food and a good PCT.

BUMPP!!! 12 wks
then second cycle maybe add tbol 30mg ed first 5 wks and/or
add deca 300mg ew for 12 wks and extend test to 14wks.

first cycle test only with a long ester (testE or testCYP) is a good way to go! :-)

juced_porkchop
10-06-2009, 01:50 AM
How does Test make you feel? I had buddies who were taking something I don't know what but when they took whatever they took they acted all out of it, but I don't know if they were just putting on a show for me but one of them walked into a wall it was pretty ridiculous.

WOOO what??
sound like there taking drugs... the kind that get you high.
or there just very imature and shouldent be using steroids.

'not sure if you should eather. i rec'd a cycle but thats for when your ready . put a few yrs of trainning in with good diet. because if that off steroids not gonna do shit.
trust me i saw a guy use 2Xmore then me from same lab/order. but i ran it 14wks he went for almost 20wks. and the guy looked liek he didnt even look like he worked out only had a fat face. then he saw me and was liek WTF you taking i told him still the same as you but i warned you about steroids not being some majic thing that just makes you grow. it take HARD work and DIET!!

if you dont have that to put in then fo grab a borretto and wach tv.
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm dam u now i want a spicy bean borreto!!!!
ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHH
gtg eat later lol.