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Riddick
07-06-2009, 01:52 PM
Hi there,

I have the opportunity to get some somatropine (180 U in fact).
I'm not sure of the usage. I've heard that i must take between 2 and 4 U per day. But the thing that i wanna know is if it's worth to take it alone or i should use other product such as testosterone etc...

Eventualy what kind of PCT i should think about ???

Thanx for answering

deleteduser0002
07-06-2009, 02:05 PM
No offense but its obvious that you need to do a lot more research before you begin a cycle. There are a lot of considerations that need to be taken into account before anyone can give you any advice.

Like:
a) how old are you?
b) have you ever taken any AAS in the past?
c) what are you hoping to gain from it (get leaner or bigger or...)?
d) have you been training very long?

Riddick
07-06-2009, 02:31 PM
no problem that's why i'm here. i'm searching advises to prevent big troubles...

I'm 32
No, indeed i've never done AAS Cycle before
Getting bigger of course...
I'm training for 4 years now

You know all about me by now

tex
07-06-2009, 02:47 PM
oook then. to get bigger on gh you need to run it with some testosterone.....and you need to run the gh at a dose in excess of 6iu/day .....i'd say closer to 10iu/day to really put on size.....that would give you a whopping 18 day supply! I think most guys run it 5 on 2 off so given that schedule you would have enough gh to run it at a good clip for 3 weeks......

deleteduser0002
07-06-2009, 03:11 PM
Running GH for size is outside my area of personal knowledge. I''ve never ran it over 3iu's/day, for fat loss,recovery and other benefits outside muscle mass.

I have heard guys running GH at 10iu's taken 3x a week (30iu's/week) for this purpose and reporting good results...and yes, you will need to run testosterone with it to make decent size gains. At least 500mg/week.

You don't need pct for the GH but you will when you come off the testosterone. There are LOTS of different methods to use. I typically keep it simple. Either clomid on its own at 50mg/day for 3-4 weeks starting 2 weeks after your last shot (if using a long ester test). Or HCG along with the clomid for the first couple of weeks then clomid on its own. Both methods work for me.

gsxr750
07-06-2009, 03:17 PM
You don't have enough GH to put on size. If you invested that money in steak and rice you'd put on more size over the same ammount of time.. no offense..

Riddick
08-06-2009, 04:15 AM
OOOK thank you for your answers and opinions guys!

One more question : i've heard that i will need to inject the Gh directly on the different parts of the body (pecs, abs etc.) and i've heard too that i can do it in my hip.
The first method seems to be excessive but...

Riddick
08-06-2009, 05:47 AM
You don't have enough GH to put on size. If you invested that money in steak and rice you'd put on more size over the same ammount of time.. no offense..

How much should i have then ???

deleteduser0002
08-06-2009, 09:15 AM
OOOK thank you for your answers and opinions guys!

One more question : i've heard that i will need to inject the Gh directly on the different parts of the body (pecs, abs etc.) and i've heard too that i can do it in my hip.
The first method seems to be excessive but...

Short answer is no. Won't work, GH works systemically, no local growth. I remember hearing this rumor in relation to injecting IGF-1 directly into the muscle. I don't know if it works for it or not, but I HIGHLY doubt it with GH. If it did all the people the use it IM would be walking around with gigantic asses and thighs,lol.

As far as length of time to be on GH...I would say that running it for less than 3 months would be a complete waste of time.....the longer the better definitely hold true for GH.

Riddick
08-06-2009, 10:02 AM
3 months... that leads nearly to 400 iu if i take 30 iu per week... ouch for coin purse!!!
But wait a minute, correct me if i'm wrong : i can't take test. in a such long range of time no (5~6 weeks max) ?

trainharder
08-06-2009, 10:12 AM
3 months... that leads nearly to 400 iu if i take 30 iu per week... ouch for coin purse!!!
But wait a minute, correct me if i'm wrong : i can't take test. in a such long range of time no (5~6 weeks max) ?

No offense, but you need to do a LOT of research before you even consider GH.

The fact that you think test can only be run for 5-6 weeks shows how much you have to learn. Not trying to be a dick, but it's simply that you'll hurt yourself if you take the plunge too soon.

Riddick
08-06-2009, 10:25 AM
as i said before, that's why i'm here precisely : to learn

deleteduser0002
08-06-2009, 11:07 AM
as i said before, that's why i'm here precisely : to learn

If thats the case it seems to me that you should drop the idea of using GH entirely for now. Your not ready for it, you can make fantastic gains off AAS without GH. So look at doing a test only cycle first. Read up on the different esters, doses, potential side effects, PCT when you come off... everything.

Oh and per your question of 5-6 weeks for test....that would be WAY to short of time to bother using it. You would likely have only gained water weight and just barely started making gains in lean mass/strength in that time period. Test can be run...well...indefinitely really. Some guys never come off....3-4 months however is probably the norm.

Riddick
08-06-2009, 11:33 AM
Ok ok i will check this out...


Oh and per your question of 5-6 weeks for test....that would be WAY to short of time to bother using it. You would likely have only gained water weight and just barely started making gains in lean mass/strength in that time period. Test can be run...well...indefinitely really. Some guys never come off....3-4 months however is probably the norm.

I understant now why a dude of my club was complaning that he gained only water for his last cycle... It's really hard to find reliable informations in france that's why i come here and ask to you.

I was asking for it cause i wanna avoid heavy sexual problems and you have no idea of what i've heard :-s.
But if dude does all the with out problems...