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deleteduser0002
05-06-2009, 06:32 PM
Just wondering if anyone has any experience with Saizen GH? I've heard rumor that the majority of the Saizen floating around Canada is counterfeit, but still works...ie. repackaged generic's. Anyone here have any experience using them?
pseclint
05-06-2009, 06:33 PM
know some people that run them and like them.....
srt8
05-06-2009, 07:07 PM
I'd would not personally use them, but I know of people that use them and like.
Houstonbc
05-06-2009, 07:23 PM
the 150iu kits are decent i like them better than generic blues. the generic blues left me with welts at the injection sites.
JonnyO
05-06-2009, 08:34 PM
I didnt mind the Saizen at all, they worked.
canadianmuscle0803
05-06-2009, 08:43 PM
i heard that they were shit and possibly 192aa
deleteduser0002
06-06-2009, 09:25 AM
Thanks for all the input, I think I'll avoid them and just stick to the blues.
Praetorian
06-06-2009, 10:05 AM
They are counterfeit and not HGH....hence they do nothing. Yes guys have said they get an effect but it is placebo and they are far from experienced on the subject. Anyone who has used GH for a considerable time would be able to tell they are junk...the product does not even resemble GH in the least. GH is an opaque white lypholized powder in puck form in the vial unless shipping has loosened the puck. It is NOT a crystalline substance in granular form ever!

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JonnyO
06-06-2009, 12:06 PM
LOL, sorry I been around long enough to know it wasnt a placebo effect.
Houstonbc
06-06-2009, 02:22 PM
^^ X2
canadianmuscle0803
06-06-2009, 03:31 PM
only real way to find out would be to take a shot upon waking up and then getting blood work done to check your IGF 1 levels.. you can pretty much determine if its real GH by this method.. i would prefer a bigger dose maybe 10iu for a test like this.. i will be doing this with my "real" hygetropin soon enough.
canadianmuscle0803
06-06-2009, 03:33 PM
LOL, sorry I been around long enough to know it wasnt a placebo effect.

even if the GH is real.. there is no way in hell there is 15iu of GH in each vial..
macka
06-06-2009, 04:11 PM
even if the GH is real.. there is no way in hell there is 15iu of GH in each vial..

why not? Its not like its expensive to make. You are paying for a name.
Praetorian
06-06-2009, 05:33 PM
Well then you are respondin to the gear and anythign else you are taking. Trust me on the Saizen...its as real as a 3 dollar bill. Im only trying to give you some decent advice...there are many god quality GH products available...spend your money on them. we've all been taken in this game at one time or another....nothing to worry about. Take the advice or not its up to you...its your money.
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IronMan
06-06-2009, 06:04 PM
I agree, even if it was GH you can't repackage HGH, its way to sensitive to atmospheric pressure and elemets. If you look at the powder in the vials of the saizens, they are crumbled loose powder, so if at one time it was good real GH its not anymore the peptide has been destroyed and is not longer active. Thats what have been told by someone who really knows what they are talking about when it comes to HGH and peptides. Thats why I'm not using GH I tried one kit and its too expensive to get screwed over on it.
IronMan
06-06-2009, 06:06 PM
But, I could be wrong... So could the guy who told me..... Don't want to piss anyone off.... lol its a crazy world out there :popc2
Mr.Freeze
07-06-2009, 04:54 PM
They are counterfeit and not HGH....hence they do nothing. Yes guys have said they get an effect but it is placebo and they are far from experienced on the subject. Anyone who has used GH for a considerable time would be able to tell they are junk...the product does not even resemble GH in the least. GH is an opaque white lypholized powder in puck form in the vial unless shipping has loosened the puck. It is NOT a crystalline substance in granular form ever!

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Praetorian is 110% right!!
got some Saizen 5mg(15ui) in my hands right now, how the hell would some one use this stuff thinking its real thing.
gustavo77
07-06-2009, 06:34 PM
I would not touch any GH that was not a nice clean puck in the bottom of the vial. I would also not buy a generic that was repacked with a legit HG product name on it....

It is tough sometimes with Chinese GH....i prefer to go with brands that i know where they are made...kefei, made by kefei biotech....Hygetropin with the pinwheel tops, make by Zhongshan Biohygene (a GMP facility) and any other brand that come from a known or verifiable producer.
JonnyO
07-06-2009, 09:27 PM
Hygetropin with the pinwheel tops

I thought the ones that said "Hygetropin 8iu" on the tops were the better ones, these were the ones tested and came out good to go???

Also I'm pretty sure everyone who buys the Saizen know they are not REAL Saizen but knockoffs, lmao.
gustavo77
08-06-2009, 12:22 AM
I thought the ones that said "Hygetropin 8iu" on the tops were the better ones, these were the ones tested and came out good to go???

Also I'm pretty sure everyone who buys the Saizen know they are not REAL Saizen but knockoffs, lmao.

Both hyge are good but only one is produced in a GMP lab...

Regardless if the "Saizen" are GH or not, a counterfeit is still a counterfeit and i do not- knowingly- buy counterfeits...