15 TOP BODYBUILDING MYTHS

[Drummer]

Go ahead and feel free to debate these. I have reasons for each one, but ill see what everyone has to say. I am sure that there will be some people saying "hey, thats true!!"

This should be fun ;) Here are the MYTHS :

1) Muscle pump is an indication of muscle growth
2) Muscle burn/soreness is an indication of muscle growth
3) Pro's have the best advice
4) Muscle magazines are a good place to find solid info.
5) High protein diet is hard on the kidneys
6) The body can only absorb 30 grams of protien per sitting
7) High reps and light weight leads to a ripped lean look
8) Changing your routine will shock your muscles into growing
9) Different exercises will influence the shape of a muscle (bicep peak?)
10) Lifting weight means being bulky and losing agility
11) All steroid users are cheaters
12) Lifting with absolutely perfect form is necessary for best gains
13) When you stop training, your muscle turns to fat (lmao)
14) Eating before bedtime makes you fat
15) If you lift like the big guy at the gym, you will get similar results


So there you have it. Post your arguments for or against! Ill be here to tell you why each one of these are a MYTH!

;) ;) ;)

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[declan]

Nice write up there bud.

[fathead]

i disagree with 8+9.

shortdave will now yell at me

[thecivilizedanimal]

i disagree with 8+9.

shortdave will now yell at me

no your right with that one,

i learn something new almost every day. it's good try new thigns figure out what works for you

i've seen so many terrible routines, why would continuing the same mistake be good ?

[Drummer]

i disagree with 8+9.

shortdave will now yell at me

8) if you are properly hitting a muscle, and constantly improving on load and reps, it will grow (according to your genetics, which are predetermined). The only reasons to change your routine are to : better hit a muscle that you may not be hitting correctly, keep it fresh and interesting, find routines you like best that work for you for the 2 previous reasons etc. There is no such thing as "shocking" a muscle into growth, and no scientific research to support it. Overloading a muscle, triggering growth, and repair is the way it works.

9) Muscles fire on an "all or nothing" basis. This is scientific fact. Shape of a muscle is genetically predetermined. You will not have high peak biceps if your born to have long flat ones, period. If you are properly targeting a muscle, it will grow as a unit, you cannot pick a peice of it to grow. Keep in mind, you must know the proper anatomy of your body to know whats going on here. For example, you CAN grow the upper part of your pecks independantly of your lower pecks because they are 2 different muscles. You cannot take a single muscle, and influence only a part of it to grow. It is not how the body works.

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[4031]

what about #3? i just want to hear what you got to say about that one,lol

[O-Train]

8) if you are properly hitting a muscle, and constantly improving on load and reps, it will grow (according to your genetics, which are predetermined). The only reasons to change your routine are to : better hit a muscle that you may not be hitting correctly, keep it fresh and interesting, find routines you like best that work for you for the 2 previous reasons etc. There is no such thing as "shocking" a muscle into growth, and no scientific research to support it. Overloading a muscle, triggering growth, and repair is the way it works.

9) Muscles fire on an "all or nothing" basis. This is scientific fact. Shape of a muscle is genetically predetermined. You will not have high peak biceps if your born to have long flat ones, period. If you are properly targeting a muscle, it will grow as a unit, you cannot pick a peice of it to grow. Keep in mind, you must know the proper anatomy of your body to know whats going on here. For example, you CAN grow the upper part of your pecks independantly of your lower pecks because they are 2 different muscles. You cannot take a single muscle, and influence only a part of it to grow. It is not how the body works.

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tsk tsk

I spent hours explaining this in a thread. Never again will I comment, the information is on this site.

[Drummer]

tsk tsk

I spent hours explaining this in a thread. Never again will I comment, the information is on this site.

i missed that thread... link?

[Drummer]

no your right with that one,

i learn something new almost every day. it's good try new thigns figure out what works for you

i've seen so many terrible routines, why would continuing the same mistake be good ?

Thats not what is meant by it... it means that you cannot pick a specific part of a single muscle to "shape". Also assuming that your routines are good and you know what your doing. Shape is genetically predetermined, you can just make it bigger as a whole single muscle. The other one assumes your already hitting the muscle right - its the "shock" theory that is the myth apparently.

For the record, i DO change my routine, and get better gains for it - i believe it comes from a long process of getting to know how to properly target a muscle to hit it hardest and make it grow. Its definitely not a simple thing - understanding vast, complex systems. Muscle, skeleton, tendon, ligament, how the work etc. Im constantly learning. What makes it even more difficult is that we are not all the same, so the rules change from person to person.
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[HeavyD]

i was waiting for your reply O hurley....

and drummer check out the thread on shape exercises.

[O-Train]

i missed that thread... link?

http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7320

I agree with a lot of what you wrote. Although some parts arn't right. For example the upper portion of the chest is the same muscle, just different attachment sites.

I will also say that at some point everyone will stop progressing on an exercise. You don't see guys squatting 2000lbs so obviously changing the exercises and any number of factors that go into a routine will help you to continue growing.

There could be valid discussion on a few of the points although with most of them I agree more than I disagree.

[Drummer]

what about #3? i just want to hear what you got to say about that one,lol

Pro's are often paid to tell you something is good or bad. Also, most pro's are already genetic freaks who are also on very well designed cycles of whatever you can imagine. They also are doing this full time, some with the best information available and the best doctors for the sport. This is not most of us for sure. Also, everyone knows at least one guy - you know, the guy that does anything at the gym, and grows easily. Makes me jealous lol. For the other 99% of us, many of those rules will not so easily apply.

That being said, in no way is ALL the info from the pros bad - saying that would be stupid. Just dont take the advice blindly "cause a pro said it".

~D~

[Drummer]

http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7320

I agree with a lot of what you wrote. Although some parts arn't right. For example the upper portion of the chest is the same muscle, just different attachment sites.

I will also say that at some point everyone will stop progressing on an exercise. You don't see guys squatting 2000lbs so obviously changing the exercises and any number of factors that go into a routine will help you to continue growing.

There could be valid discussion on a few of the points although with most of them I agree more than I disagree.

Nice - i saw the other thread, ill check out this one. This thread is to inspire discussion, so its working ;) I got the list from a good program that ive used with great success that is all about what people tend to forget - the very basics. Anything here is up for debate, matter of fact, i encourage it! Especially if you know what your talking about

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[Shortdave]

i disagree with 8+9.

shortdave will now yell at me

Oh come on man, we are buddy's aren't we? Everything I say is said out of love... and anger.

[fathead]

Oh come on man, we are buddy's aren't we? Everything I say is said out of love... and anger.

love... and anger... leads to hate ****ing

[Drummer]

love... and anger... leads to hate ****ing

LOL... a little off topic tho :)

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[buildinthaskinnys]

http://www.canadabodybuilding.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7320

I agree with a lot of what you wrote. Although some parts arn't right. For example the upper portion of the chest is the same muscle, just different attachment sites.

I will also say that at some point everyone will stop progressing on an exercise. You don't see guys squatting 2000lbs so obviously changing the exercises and any number of factors that go into a routine will help you to continue growing.

There could be valid discussion on a few of the points although with most of them I agree more than I disagree.

If it is not possible to focus on upper chest more than the lower portion than it is not possible to raise your hand above your head.

[O-Train]

If it is not possible to focus on upper chest more than the lower portion than it is not possible to raise your hand above your head.

You need to read my post again...

[buildinthaskinnys]

Sorry I thought you were the guy saying flat benches would develop the chest fully, my bad.

[turboturist]

I think this should be in the top ten for myths.


Do you have a fast/high metabolism? I have a buddy who absolutely cannot gain weight for the life of him, and he has a very fast metabolism.

[BritishColumbian]

7) High reps and light weight leads to a ripped lean look
I disagree a little bit on this one, It might not be good for the ripped look but I do this every once in a while to improve stanima. I just think its a good idea to use light weights and high reps at least 1 week a month. But everyone is different. It does burn fat so how could it not give you a leaner look? IDK/JMO

[tex]

I have found, for myself, that weight moves weight.......the bulkier and heavier I get the easier the weight moves......

[turboturist]

I have found, for myself, that weight moves weight.......the bulkier and heavier I get the easier the weight moves......

I remember reading an interview with Anthony Clark and the interviewer questioned his motive for wanting to gain more weight even though he was already a super heavy and his response was "The bigger the oak tree gets the less its sways in the wind".

[Drummer]

I think this should be in the top ten for myths.

There are so many... i just listed the 15 you see

[Drummer]

7) High reps and light weight leads to a ripped lean look
I disagree a little bit on this one, It might not be good for the ripped look but I do this every once in a while to improve stanima. I just think its a good idea to use light weights and high reps at least 1 week a month. But everyone is different. It does burn fat so how could it not give you a leaner look? IDK/JMO

The high reps themselves are not necessary for a ripped look. Lifting heavy also burns calories. So does chewing gum ;) The point is, being ripped is all about nutrition and muscle growth. You do not need to change to a light weight high rep routine to get this. Its just one of those funny often repeated things i hear - "im gonna go light and high cause i wanna get ripped" without even mentioning nutrition and calorie burning.

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[buildinthaskinnys]

The high reps themselves are not necessary for a ripped look. Lifting heavy also burns calories. So does chewing gum ;) The point is, being ripped is all about nutrition and muscle growth. You do not need to change to a light weight high rep routine to get this. Its just one of those funny often repeated things i hear - "im gonna go light and high cause i wanna get ripped" without even mentioning nutrition and calorie burning.

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According to Tudor Bompa, high rep training digs into the fatty acids for energy after the atp\cp and glycogen stores are used up. This would lead to a more ripped physique if it is true. Tell me then is this not true? I mean to say, has this been proven wrong?

[Drummer]

According to Tudor Bompa, high rep training digs into the fatty acids for energy after the atp\cp and glycogen stores are used up. This would lead to a more ripped physique if it is true. Tell me then is this not true? I mean to say, has this been proven wrong?

Fair enough. I suppose anything that you do (cut carbs, lots of cardio etc.) are pretty much the same thing. Getting down to burning fat stores. Still stands to reason tho, that high reps and low weight alone wont do a thing if the diet isnt in line to get you "ripped". Its a simple statement that people make, which is why its funny. I guess id rather keep lifting to grow, and eat right to get ripped. I have no arguement against saying "doing a ton of high reps low weight stuff burns fat". Its just that its not necessary to get ripped, nor will it do it alone.

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[LIVEHARD]

Wonderful post bro !!!!:a+:a+:a+

[Drummer]

Wonderful post bro !!!!:a+:a+:a+

If your refering to mine, thnx :bow:

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[buildinthaskinnys]

Fair enough. I suppose anything that you do (cut carbs, lots of cardio etc.) are pretty much the same thing. Getting down to burning fat stores. Still stands to reason tho, that high reps and low weight alone wont do a thing if the diet isnt in line to get you "ripped". Its a simple statement that people make, which is why its funny. I guess id rather keep lifting to grow, and eat right to get ripped. I have no arguement against saying "doing a ton of high reps low weight stuff burns fat". Its just that its not necessary to get ripped, nor will it do it alone.

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There is more to it than that

"Burns off subcutaneous fat and increases the visability of muscle striations"

"increases the protein content of muscles through performance of long, high-rep sets. In addition to better muscle definition, in some instances these exercises also increase muscle strength"

"clearly increases capillary density within the muscle through increased adaptation to aerobic work, which may result in a slight increase in muscle size"

check it out at this address.

http://books.google.ca/books?id=3HNkMkJ9XOwC&dq=serious+strength+training&printsec=frontcover&source=bn&hl=en&ei=wTEsSozDE6HqswP-5rWjCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5

[MikeyFXD35]

I agree with all of those.

[Drummer]

There is more to it than that

"Burns off subcutaneous fat and increases the visability of muscle striations"

"increases the protein content of muscles through performance of long, high-rep sets. In addition to better muscle definition, in some instances these exercises also increase muscle strength"

"clearly increases capillary density within the muscle through increased adaptation to aerobic work, which may result in a slight increase in muscle size"

check it out at this address.

http://books.google.ca/books?id=3HNkMkJ9XOwC&dq=serious+strength+training&printsec=frontcover&source=bn&hl=en&ei=wTEsSozDE6HqswP-5rWjCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5

a strong arguement for sure. Ill take a look

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[Drummer]

bump for the myths!!!