First Cycle

[mo_sco]

I'd like some thoughts on a first cycle. 3 months out from show. 7% bf. Hoping to preserve lean tissue, perhaps even add a wee bit:

350ml test cyp/week for ten weeks (100ml from doc/250 from friend)
25 mg/day dianabol for first 4 weeks
0.5 mg Arimidex EOD

Daily
Liv 52
NAC
R-ALA
Cranberry Juice
Gaspari Halodrol 3/day
DHEA 75mgs

PCT's to follow

Thoughts/Comments. Feedback would be very welcome.

(I know this is a mild cycle but I thought I would start small):)

[Timbo89]

increase the dbol to 30 mgs a day atleast, maybe 40, since ur not gonna eb on it long anyway. and 350mgs a week of test isnt that much either, so 40 mgs of dbol would be good.

[Danger]

Consider useing the Adex only if needed especially since your not taking that much to begin with.

[JonnyO]

so you thinking this will be a precontest cycle?

[mo_sco]

You bet...my first cycle ever after 10 years of training and 7 years of competing. I understand its a mild cycle.

[mo_sco]

Thanks for the Arimeidex pointer. Some say to take it only if you get the tingling senstion in your nipples...others say to take it throughout.

[mo_sco]

Good point. Pound it hard and kickstart it. I've heard of others doing the same. Thanks.

[natenator]

Not to sound like an ass and who knows you may look like zippy the wonder but you are in for a rude awakening at Nationals if this is your first cycle.

What weight class are you in bud?

I personally run adex throughout my prep as that's how I've always been instructed to do others run 1mg ED last 4 weeks.

[JonnyO]

Thats more of an off season cycle so dont be surprised if your holding some water.

[ubcpower]

are you on HRT? (1oomg from doctor?)
if so, i was under the assumption that pct wasnt necessary?

[mo_sco]

Not to sound like an ass and who knows you may look like zippy the wonder but you are in for a rude awakening at Nationals if this is your first cycle.

What weight class are you in bud?

I personally run adex throughout my prep as that's how I've always been instructed to do others run 1mg ED last 4 weeks.

NP; listen, I'm in a lighter class and I know what the competition is like...I've been competing naturally for 7 years...which is why I would like to come in at the top of my weight class for weight. Being the most ripped has done it for me so far but carrying some more muscle would be nice. If I get my a$$ handed to me I live and learn and come back from it with the knowledge of what I need to do to take it to the next level. First kick at this particular can.

Nonetheless, appreciate the feedback, Natenator.

Still like to hear what others do for adex?

[mo_sco]

Thats more of an off season cycle so dont be surprised if your holding some water.

Yeah, I know that's a possibility and I'll work with it. I am using what I have at this time. Thanks.

[mo_sco]

are you on HRT? (1oomg from doctor?)
if so, i was under the assumption that pct wasnt necessary?

Yeah, but I'm boosting it up and adding d-bol to the start. 1rst cycle of anything (haven't touched the HRT yet). I might be going overboard on the PCT but better safe than sorry, no?

Thoughts?

[IronRobi]

I love seeing first cycles like this. Simple and basic and centered around test! 350mg/week is all you need for a first. As you become more experienced in the future you can start playing with doses.

[natenator]

I love seeing first cycles like this. Simple and basic and centered around test! 350mg/week is all you need for a first. As you become more experienced in the future you can start playing with doses.
agree with simple being better but the problem is he is looking to do nationals on this cycle...

[MoooBaby]

agree with simple being better but the problem is he is looking to do nationals on this cycle...

Well. . .

So far he has qualified for nationals tottaly clean. . .might be safe to assume that starting off slow is good.

As long as he drops the dbol before the show, I'm sure he could just go right through the show with the test as if he got tottaly ripped without it. . a lil bit will go a long way.

I had a buddy who made nationals and all he was on was 1000mg primo a week lol.

[Skyblob]

Well. . .

So far he has qualified for nationals tottaly clean. . .might be safe to assume that starting off slow is good.
^^ 2nd this .. and no , Natenator, my 1st language is french :lick

[IronRobi]

agree with simple being better but the problem is he is looking to do nationals on this cycle...

That's ok, he's fine with getting his ass handed to him and learning from it. Gives him time to get experience on cycling :)

[TraintoGain]

Textbook first cycle, but not for pre-contest imo.

[Dk]

drop the dbol and do 40mg of var for the last 8 weeks (last 6 of cycle, and the 2 weeks leading right upto comp)

and leave the Adex for 1mg ED for the last month, right upto contest.

if i looked at it right your 12 weeks out and doing a 10 week.

so assuming you start this cycle asap..

do

1-10 Test cyp/enth @ whatever dose you decide
5-to day of comp(aka 5-12) 40mg Anavar every day
8-day of comp (8-12) Adex 1mg Every day

[mo_sco]

drop the dbol and do 40mg of var for the last 8 weeks (last 6 of cycle, and the 2 weeks leading right upto comp)

and leave the Adex for 1mg ED for the last month, right upto contest.

if i looked at it right your 12 weeks out and doing a 10 week.

so assuming you start this cycle asap..

do

1-10 Test cyp/enth @ whatever dose you decide
5-to day of comp(aka 5-12) 40mg Anavar every day
8-day of comp (8-12) Adex 1mg Every day


Thanks for the tips!

[mo_sco]

^^ 2nd this .. and no , Natenator, my 1st language is french :lick

Thanks for the feedback. That's just what I wanted to hear...that I was on track.

[mo_sco]

I love seeing first cycles like this. Simple and basic and centered around test! 350mg/week is all you need for a first. As you become more experienced in the future you can start playing with doses.

Yes, that's what I plan on doing now that I have jumped to the other side. I plan to run this right through the show and then PCT and stay on my diet (with some cheats) and then go for a second go round while upping my cals a bit and see if I can't put on more size. Protein is still over 350grams a day and will go upward after contest.

If I get my ass kicked that'll be fine, but I'm going to give it my best until then and then come back bigger.

Thanks for the input.