ALL ABOUT T/enth QUESTIONS

[LIVEHARD]

I am starting my T/enth cycle in a few weeks.

My dose will be 500mg a week at 250 mg 2x a week.

If T takes 5-6 to kick in.

How many weeks will the ester run after my 12 week cycle is over ?

How long can i expect gains before i start to go back to normal ?

How big of a % of my gains can i expect to keep ??

[Dk]

half life is like 10.5 days. so itll start degrading after that.

start pct 2 weeks after last shot

% of gains kept depends on diet and training, varies with person, just do your best to fight the shit pct will make you feel and keep training and eating, and youll know the answer when its all done

[Ritch]

Another way of seeing it is if you`re very far from your natual limit lot`s of that weight will be kept. Providing you`ve made the necessary caloric adjustments. I mean if x amount of calories made you grow, and you gain 20 lbs, you will need more cals just to maintain your weight after the cycle.

I`d day the other thing is the pct you choose. Lots of guys are claiming aromasin and nolvadex are working well.

[hyperlite32]

For PCT, nolva is not needed if using aromasin. Add in some clomid and you will be fine.

[Ritch]

I`m not expecting a unanimous decision about pct, lol, but I thought there was a synergy betweent the 2^^^

[Drummer]

^^^^ Well, the thought behind what he is saying is that if the aromasin is lowering the estrogen by so much, nolva isnt needed to block estrogen receptors. However, nolva has other effects, and can help kickstart things again. So they do have a synergy, however its individual as far as what you want to use.

The OP

Your test should show faster than 5 weeks, i show in 2-3. The test will be effective for a couple weeks after last injection. Expect to gain 10 pounds of water and lose it. Id say if you keep 10 pounds of solid mass after a cycle like that you have done awsome. Keeping gains is much harder the higher you go over what your body wants to keep. The higher you go, the harder you have to work and eat right consistantly in order to keep it. Thats why you see people blow up and lose it all. No discipline, and a shame to put your body through it all (with the risks involved) just to piss it away with poor post cycle training and nutrition.

~D~

[LIVEHARD]

For pct i have novolodex, arimidex and HCG> In the past i have been prone to gyno. Part of the reason im going down to less than 15%BF before i pin.

I was going to start arimidex or novo about 4 weeks in. Witch one is best ? Back in the day i used provioron its what i had !

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[Dk]

For pct i have novolodex, arimidex and HCG> In the past i have been prone to gyno. Part of the reason im going down to less than 15%BF before i pin.

I was going to start arimidex or novo about 4 weeks in. Witch one is best ? Back in the day i used provioron its what i had !

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AI's on cycle, Serms for pct.

use the adex on cycle

[wolverine]

your gear is going to kick in faster than 5-6 weeks for sure!!!

[tripleA]

i thought test enth was in your system for up to 3 weeks and pct should only be done 3 weeks after your last shot., not 2 as per DK.

[hyperlite32]

I dont think it is a huge deal between 2 or 3 weeks. The fact is hormone levels will start to drop once injections are stopped. Once levels begin to drop, PCT should be ready to comence. The earlier you start, say 2 weeks after last shot, the PCT drugs will begin to do there job fater, helping you recover and get natural test levels up, so you can keep a good amount of your gains.

[tripleA]

i always got the impression as long as gear is still active in your system, pct will be useless.

[vegan_hunter]

For your PCT recovery, I prefer to do a long tapering method of the Testosterone Dosage. Generally I taper for 6-8 weeks down to a dose of 100mg/week. You can start Nolvadex or Clomid therapy once the Test is out of your system if you like.

I know some people don't agree with this method, but I've done it several times, and it works well for me. It just gives the body more transition time to slowly adjust the the decreasing hormone levels and begin producing on its own.

[trainharder]

i always got the impression as long as gear is still active in your system, pct will be useless.

That's my understanding as well.

Using calculators, you can see that test levels are still elevated after 14 days..however, keep in mind that Clomid has a half-life of 5-7 days, so if you wait 3 weeks, it wont' really build-up until a month later.

[ironwill]

For your PCT recovery, I prefer to do a long tapering method of the Testosterone Dosage. Generally I taper for 6-8 weeks down to a dose of 100mg/week. You can start Nolvadex or Clomid therapy once the Test is out of your system if you like.

I know some people don't agree with this method, but I've done it several times, and it works well for me. It just gives the body more transition time to slowly adjust the the decreasing hormone levels and begin producing on its own.
exactly what i do, except i may drop test and do 2 weeks of winny only...then nolva, etc if needed, hcg etc...

[ironwill]

i always got the impression as long as gear is still active in your system, pct will be useless.
to much estrogen floating in your system will keep you shut down also..

[Ritch]

For your PCT recovery, I prefer to do a long tapering method of the Testosterone Dosage. Generally I taper for 6-8 weeks down to a dose of 100mg/week. You can start Nolvadex or Clomid therapy once the Test is out of your system if you like.

I know some people don't agree with this method, but I've done it several times, and it works well for me. It just gives the body more transition time to slowly adjust the the decreasing hormone levels and begin producing on its own.

That`s what I plan on doing when this 20 weeker is over, then doing 80,60,40,40,40mg of test per week while using nolvadex and aromasin. Can`t wait to see how this goes. Ironwill, you`re looking fantastik in your avatar. Awesome dude!

[Drummer]

to much estrogen floating in your system will keep you shut down also..

agreed.

you can be running your pct slightly before the esters clear. Ester half lives only define when half the active hormone has been used. Enthanate is about 5 days. So in 5 days, 50% is left. 5 days later, 25% is left. 5 more days, 12.5% is left etc.

I like to start use HCG while in cycle (or in the last month at least) and end it when the hormone is completely gone from my body. I also like to start cutting and blocking estrogen BEFORE the hormone is gone. About a couple weeks or so. Most importantly, once the HCG and the hormone are completely gone, running the estrogen control for at least another month after that. Hard cycles may require longer.

Gyno prone? Run the adex at .5mg EOD while on. That should help. I hate doing that tho, i cant lift as heavy with my estro cut.

~D~

[Dk]

agreed.

you can be running your pct slightly before the esters clear. Ester half lives only define when half the active hormone has been used. Enthanate is about 5 days. So in 5 days, 50% is left. 5 days later, 25% is left. 5 more days, 12.5% is left etc.

I like to start use HCG while in cycle (or in the last month at least) and end it when the hormone is completely gone from my body. I also like to start cutting and blocking estrogen BEFORE the hormone is gone. About a couple weeks or so. Most importantly, once the HCG and the hormone are completely gone, running the estrogen control for at least another month after that. Hard cycles may require longer.

Gyno prone? Run the adex at .5mg EOD while on. That should help. I hate doing that tho, i cant lift as heavy with my estro cut.

~D~

thought enth was 10.5?