Pre WO stimulants?

[Solo59]

So I'm quitting using ephedrine as a pre-workout stimulant because it raises my blood pressure too high. Any suggestions on other pre-workout stimulants that may work well? I've used caffeine but, like ephedrine, it does not help with cardio (quite the opposite). I have felt nothing from using things like NO Explode. Crystal meth or cocaine are out of the question;), so anyone have any ideas to get these old bones rocking? (Whatever happened to bennies?)

(Wonder if I could rent high school cheerleaders?:rolleyes:)

Solo

[nitrous]

i find my best source of energy is food... mix that in with some AAS and i have more than enough energy..

as far as supplements go i am quite surprised you dont get much from no-xplode because i felt i noticed quite a bit... aside from that i dont know what to suggest.. caffeine pills? perhaps you need more sleep or carbs?

[Ritch]

Try 3 grams of l-tyrosine one hour after having eaten and train about 30-45 mins after taking it. It`s not a stimulant but a neurotransmiter enhancer that increases dopamine levels in the brain, putting fatigue on the side.

[tiramisu]

A cup of coffee works for me.

[IronMan]

There is a product I carry in my store by Advanced Genetics called DRIVE and its freaking unreal for enegry and mental focus! Only 100mgs of caffeine per serving too so its not very high in caffeine or stimulants. But the other ingredients in it are proven and work amazingly. Google Advanced Genetics Drive and you'll see what I mean. Its just 2 caps pre workout.

[Seth]

taurine or guarana perhaps?

[canadianmuscle0803]

50mg of viagra.

[toynut]

Progressive PhytoBerry , with a glass of Orange Juice.

[AlbertaBeef]

5 to 10 grams of L-Arginine or if you can find it there is even an Arginine ethyl esther. Take it with some grape seed extract and should pump you up good. Helps for powerful boners as well.

[ubcpower]

Green Tea extract caps

[cdnsoldier]

If you can get it, your doc may prescribe it, modafinil worked miracles for me.

[Ritch]

If you can get it, your doc may prescribe it, modafinil worked miracles for me.

That would be the shit!

[Ritch]

taurine or guarana perhaps?

since when is taurine a stimulant?

[canadianmuscle0803]

If you can get it, your doc may prescribe it, modafinil worked miracles for me.

doesn't this cost an arm and a leg if you dont have coverage........

[cdnsoldier]

That would be the shit!



If your Doc is progressive type tell him you are working night shifts and can't stay away duiring the nigt but your livilihood depends on it. If he's current he might give you modefinil. Don't expect amphetaine type stuff. It's one below. It's sort of like amphetamine minus the euphoria but keeps the energy and pro-mood type deal. You'll want to work out loner and harder but your blood pressure doens't go nuts like other stimulants.

[cdnsoldier]

doesn't this cost an arm and a leg if you dont have coverage........

It costs $67.33 for 60 x 100mg.

I only use it when I'm really out of it. So 60 will last a long time. I don't useit every day.

[ee_geek]

Sounds like biotests drive supp from years ago. Good for studying too.


There is a product I carry in my store by Advanced Genetics called DRIVE and its freaking unreal for enegry and mental focus! Only 100mgs of caffeine per serving too so its not very high in caffeine or stimulants. But the other ingredients in it are proven and work amazingly. Google Advanced Genetics Drive and you'll see what I mean. Its just 2 caps pre workout.

[BritishColumbian]

I qiut wasting my money on pre workout sups, I have a meal 1.5 hrs before I go and if I feel unfocused and lazy I just think about someone who really pissed me off. I was spending unreal amounts on NOxplode and superpump250 and then just getting imune to it. I might try the NOshotgun next, one thing I did notice using all this crap was the vascularity after a workout and that must be a good thing.

[nitrous]

yeah no-xplode is so expensive.. i'm gonna pick some up for my pct though just to keep me goin

[spankmonkey]

Sudafed from Walmart at about 18 bucks for 28 pills. Works for me!

[Seth]

since when is taurine a stimulant?

taurine isn't a stimulant, but it's supposed to help with blood pressure, so taking some along with some stimulants could alleviate his problems

[Ritch]

taurine isn't a stimulant, but it's supposed to help with blood pressure, so taking some along with some stimulants could alleviate his problems

True. Just when I hear people talk about red bull and say "there`s taurine in it" like it`s some big deal...

[champcar99]

few tokes , heavy metal in the iphone and I am GOOD TO GO...

[Ritch]

^^^ Lol, a few tokes...

[Drummer]

So I'm quitting using ephedrine as a pre-workout stimulant because it raises my blood pressure too high. Any suggestions on other pre-workout stimulants that may work well? I've used caffeine but, like ephedrine, it does not help with cardio (quite the opposite). I have felt nothing from using things like NO Explode. Crystal meth or cocaine are out of the question;), so anyone have any ideas to get these old bones rocking? (Whatever happened to bennies?)

(Wonder if I could rent high school cheerleaders?:rolleyes:)

Solo

I use good carb loading... and a gatorade while training... sounds like your used to stimulants and should stay off them for a bit if your not feeling No Xplode at all. You may need 2-3 scoops. I know when i use stims for a while they just lose their effect due to downregulation of the receptors involved. They need time away from stims to reset. I go a couple months. You can try clenbuterol, or the newer LipoEx.

~D~

[canadianmuscle0803]

It costs $67.33 for 60 x 100mg.

I only use it when I'm really out of it. So 60 will last a long time. I don't useit every day.

this is not a daily drug? like a controlled anti-depressant?>

[Blitz-Test]

taurine or guarana perhaps?

Taurine always mellows my pump, has anyone noticed this?

[cdnsoldier]

this is not a daily drug? like a controlled anti-depressant?>



No. It's treated like a stimulant. You take it when needed. Some people take it every day: I.e. MS patients, CFS people, etc. But you don't need to. It's not like an anti-depressant where you have to build it up in the blood levels.
It's like an ADD med where it's in and out in 12 hrs, or so.

[Solo59]

i find my best source of energy is food... mix that in with some AAS and i have more than enough energy..

as far as supplements go i am quite surprised you dont get much from no-xplode because i felt i noticed quite a bit... aside from that i dont know what to suggest.. caffeine pills? perhaps you need more sleep or carbs?

Or perhaps fewer years on Earth?

Solo:rolleyes:

[Solo59]

Try 3 grams of l-tyrosine one hour after having eaten and train about 30-45 mins after taking it. It`s not a stimulant but a neurotransmiter enhancer that increases dopamine levels in the brain, putting fatigue on the side.

Thanks, but I do believe Arginine-Ornithine aminos work even better as neurotransmitter enhancers. I do feel the lift about an hour after eating a handful, but I could still use more encouragement.

Solo

[Solo59]

Sudafed from Walmart at about 18 bucks for 28 pills. Works for me!

Raises BP like a mother****er.

Solo

[Solo59]

few tokes , heavy metal in the iphone and I am GOOD TO GO...

Now if you only knew where you were goin'.

Solo:rolleyes:

[Drummer]

lmao ^^^^^

seriously... i'd say if your needing that much of a boost just to get to the gym your in need of a break. All the basics - proper rest, a break from stimulants, diet, and maybe a week off the gym if you have been pushing real hard. Also, how is your health? Your natty hormone levels if your not on cycle? That plays a major role.

~D~

[L3]

suspension gold

start the caaaaaaaaaaaaaaar

[Ritch]

Thanks, but I do believe Arginine-Ornithine aminos work even better as neurotransmitter enhancers. I do feel the lift about an hour after eating a handful, but I could still use more encouragement.

Solo

There is absolutely no way I`m convinced what you mentioned even compares to l-tyrosine. First they`re not neurotransmitter enhancers, they`re known for their "potential GH releasing effects" which to me is just garbage.

[Drummer]

suspension gold

start the caaaaaaaaaaaaaaar

what is this? cant find it.

[Solo59]

lmao ^^^^^

seriously... i'd say if your needing that much of a boost just to get to the gym your in need of a break. All the basics - proper rest, a break from stimulants, diet, and maybe a week off the gym if you have been pushing real hard. Also, how is your health? Your natty hormone levels if your not on cycle? That plays a major role.

~D~

Hey Drummer. First I had run out of hGH for two months and really felt a lapse in "well being" and energy. But I'm back on the bus now. Second, yes I had become accustomed to using plenty of ephedrine before every workout. Suddenly changing such a habit is bound to make one feel less charged. Think I will try that NOxplode. Otherwise, I'm doing well on willpower and getting big for the last summer of my fifties!:hu

Solo

[Drummer]

Hey Drummer. First I had run out of hGH for two months and really felt a lapse in "well being" and energy. But I'm back on the bus now. Second, yes I had become accustomed to using plenty of ephedrine before every workout. Suddenly changing such a habit is bound to make one feel less charged. Think I will try that NOxplode. Otherwise, I'm doing well on willpower and getting big for the last summer of my fifties!:hu

Solo

Yea... running with gh and being so used to stims will definitely take the wind out of your sails when you suddenly stop them. In your 50's, you have different concerns than a younger guy, and i think you already know how very wise it is to be keeping your eye on your BP and other important blood values. Good stuff :thumbs:

~D

EDIT : the No Xplode and other stims may raise your BP, but im sure youll be putting on the cuff just to make sure

[poncho101]

use viagra it helps get a pump.....

[KINE]

Iv used ritalin before big lifts, works amazing. Other wise I'll just use ECA stack minus the aspirin

[Ritch]

Try nicorete gum.

[Rambo_84]

There are so many pre WO products out right now, and many of them are kinda garbage, especially in Canada where they tend to sugar some stuff down. Right now I take a product called Whiteflood and I am very happy with it. I take it with 5 grams of taurine and I also take Beta Alanine and I find I get great pumps and lots of energy. Just like anything else though....it's going to vary person to person. And above all, the most important pre WO tool is your mind! It's nothing you don't know, but for the sake of newer lifters reading along....your workout starts before you get to the gym, just get your head into the game and you'll be rocking.

[MMASTAR]

I just tried expand energize.. the one without caffein.. taste awesome.. does nothing.. i like wearing a hoodie to get my body temp up.. i think someone already mentioned that.. i tried it.. works great..