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elmatador
02-06-2009, 02:12 PM
hey guys,

I am getting some severe pain in my muscles have shooting test prop. The other day i shot it in my quad and then I was literally limping the next day. I am supposed to be on the prop for 12 weeks, 100mg EOD. The pain is starting to effect my workouts.

I tired warming up the vial before shooting. I also massaged my muscles before and after the shot but the pain is still excruciating. It lasts about 3 days. I have been switching injections between delts and quads.

Does the pain start to decrease after a bunch of shots? or does it stay the same?

Also, i am one week into this cycle, would it be okay to switch to test-e? Basically i would shoot 250mg of this twice a week and also keep injecting the prop EOD for the next two weeks and then get off the Prop.

I chose prop as there would be less water retention as compared to the other tests..
canadianmuscle0803
02-06-2009, 02:15 PM
prop is painful for some.. i do 200mg/ml with no problem.. im shocked your having issues with 100mg shots.. sounds like too much ba.. heat the gear in you syringe before you inject.
elmatador
02-06-2009, 02:18 PM
sounds good man. I will let hot water run on the syringe next time. thx.
canadianmuscle0803
02-06-2009, 02:22 PM
the hot water will thin the oil out, so it will go through the muscle tissue at a better rate.. some guys like to cut prop with some sterile oil..
elmatador
02-06-2009, 02:24 PM
the hot water will thin the oil out, so it will go through the muscle tissue at a better rate.. some guys like to cut prop with some sterile oil..

hey i heard something about grape seed oil. Is that only used when homebrewing. Is it even possible to get sterile grape seed oil that i can mix with the shot?....sorry i'm a noob
BritishColumbian
02-06-2009, 02:39 PM
What size pins are you using?
canadianmuscle0803
02-06-2009, 02:43 PM
hey i heard something about grape seed oil. Is that only used when homebrewing. Is it even possible to get sterile grape seed oil that i can mix with the shot?....sorry i'm a noob

you can buy some organic grape seed at the grocery store and filter it yourself.
apoc44mac
02-06-2009, 03:23 PM
Hey, I've been using prop for like 8 days now, im doing 80mg/ed along with tren ace and mast ed, I get pretty ridiculous pain as well. Canadianmuscle, how you filter the grapeseed oil? Or were would the best place to get sterile oil be? Thanks.
vegan_hunter
02-06-2009, 03:33 PM
Prop shouldn't hurt that much..... What ever brand it is, they must have used excessive amounts of BA.

I've had prop that's made me limp for days, and also had painless prop.... both pretty much gave the same results though.
elmatador
02-06-2009, 03:35 PM
What size pins are you using?

for quads I'm using 22.5 awg 1.5"

delts using 23 awg 1"
spankmonkey
02-06-2009, 03:36 PM
Warming oil, speed of injection, injection location, depth and needle guage can all play a part injection pain. Not sure why some people have issues and other do not.
What is the potency of your prop. 100/1ml?
elmatador
02-06-2009, 03:36 PM
also just to note, i was using prop but it did not hurt at all. Just injection sore not painful at all. But since it is known to be underdosed, i switched to (which is new).
canadianmuscle0803
02-06-2009, 03:36 PM
canadaianmedsupply has grapeseed oil
elmatador
02-06-2009, 03:37 PM
Warming oil, speed of injection, injection location, depth and needle guage can all play a part injection pain. Not sure why some people have issues and other do not.
What is the potency of your prop. 100/1ml?

yes its 100mg/ml. I shoot it really slow. About 30 sec's to shoot 1ml. Should i slow it down even further?
canadianmuscle0803
02-06-2009, 03:38 PM
yes its 100mg/ml. I shoot it really slow. About 30 sec's to shoot 1ml. Should i slow it down even further?

sounds like your doing everything well.. sounds like your gear has too much BA
BritishColumbian
02-06-2009, 03:41 PM
sounds like your doing everything well.. sounds like your gear has too much BA

X2 why not go back to or whatever doesnt hurt, I hate painfull gear!
elmatador
02-06-2009, 03:45 PM
do you think it would be ****ed up to mix the two, i.e 0.5ml of and 0.5ml of ? I still have the .
elmatador
02-06-2009, 04:24 PM
canadaianmedsupply has grapeseed oil

can i just mix the two into a 1:1 ratio?

so 1ml prop, 1ml grape seed oil?
BritishColumbian
02-06-2009, 04:30 PM
Thats a great idea! I have done that with two different ugl's prop and it wasnt as painfull. I dont see anything wrong with it, Maybe a ratio of 50/50 or even 25% painfull prop and 75% non painfull prop. Also if your sure its underdosed you could do 1.5 cc'c or even 2?
canadianmuscle0803
02-06-2009, 04:30 PM
yes.
BritishColumbian
02-06-2009, 04:36 PM
can i just mix the two into a 1:1 ratio?

so 1ml prop, 1ml grape seed oil?

You could even start with less gso and see how it works BUT remeber you MUST filter it to sterilize it. You will probaly have to order some filters online. I think canadianmedicalsuplies on the banner would have them.
elmatador
02-06-2009, 04:43 PM
You could even start with less gso and see how it works BUT remeber you MUST filter it to sterilize it. You will probaly have to order some filters online. I think canadianmedicalsuplies on the banner would have them.

Thanks guys. I will go with mixing the two ugl's first and if it is still too painful then will try grape seed oil.

Reallly appreciate everyone's input on this. Thanks again guys.