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apoc44mac
02-06-2009, 02:09 AM
So for my first cycle I went a little overboard. So far results have been pretty decent I think. I'm 8 days in.

Stats
27
6'1
Was 236 when i started, now around 228.
Not sure of bf% but probably around 13 or so now.
Yes I know I shouldn't have started a cycle, but to be honest I needed a form of motivation and ass kicking to get me going.

My Cycle. I will run it for either 6 or 8 weeks. Probably just 6 for the first time to see how it goes. Unless I feel great then I will make it 8. I started it Last Sunday May 24th.

ProFina 0.8ml/ed (80mg Test Prop/60mg Tren Ace/ed)
75mg Masteron/ed
50mg Winstrol/ed
1mg Adex/eod
250ui HCG/e3d
1mg Cabergoline/e3d

PCT will be Clomid and Aromasin. 2weeks/4 weeks respectively.

Im using a 22g to draw and also a 22g to inject for everything except the HCG which i just use a 28g insulin needle and inject in the delt.

For the 22g I've inject both quads and both sides of my glutes, so far not to many problems. Yesterday I must have gone through a vein in my Quad cause when I pulled the needle out I was squirting like a dirty hooker being dp'd. It was bad for like 3 seconds and then stopped. I also hit a nerve yesterday the first time I tried to jab. (owww).

Other than that though, so far so good. My quads are very sore though and the 2nd injection in the right quad absolutely killed for like 2 days. Other than that general soreness but not to bad. I figure its because its my first time it kinda hurts.

All the products I have are from A****. Was thinking of cutting the Masteron and ProFina a little but not sure what to use or where to get it locally so that its sterile. Thinking this might improve the pain a little, I'm figuring its crystallizing a little. hence the pain.

So far visually I've noticed a lot more hardness, and a bit of a strength gain. Not crazy but a bit. I'm not one to do lots of strength exercises but I have noticed a change.

Libido is functioning very well. No issues. Probably a bit more horny then normal. I don't think ill get angry or anything simply because I'm levelheaded and don't get angry to easily. I've had a little bit of headaches but not sure if that's from this or because I was a little sick when I first started. Anyhow I will post before/after pics in another 2 weeks. and then at the end just to see any changes.

Any comments/suggestions are very welcome, except for the whole you shouldn't have done aas yet, please. Not in the mood to listen to negatives.

Also I'm gonna try getting some 25g needles, but shoppers drugmart didn't have any when i started because the 22g look like cannons and leave pretty large marks, not painful but or anything but just marks.

ApoC

apoc44mac
02-06-2009, 02:12 AM
Forgot to mention I've been doing the Palumbo diet since the monday after I started and that is working out really well so far. No desire to cheat. Only thing was the eggs were a little bit disgusting this morning.

6 meals.

Meal 1. 4 eggs/4 egg whites
meal 2. 50g Protein Shake/Almonds
Meal 3. 8oz Chicken/Shrimp, Lettuce and Cucumbers, Lemon Juice
meal 4. 50g Protein Shake/Almonds
meal 5 8oz Steak or Salmon, Broccoli
Meal 6 50g Protein Shake

Again so far so good.

Also workouts are basically 4 days of strength training throughout the week, and 5-6 days of low intensity cardio.

ApoC

nitrous
02-06-2009, 06:17 PM
So for my first cycle I went a little overboard.

i agree lol

i think your bf is too high to get much outta the Masteron so i think thats probably a waste..

winny and masteron are more used for contest prep.. i personally wouldnt have used either when the bf is that high.. i would pull them out and add in T3 instead if you are lookin to lose some fat while putting on muscle..

BritishColumbian
02-06-2009, 07:26 PM
Hey Bro, Im not going to say anything about your cycle because you dont want to hear it, But maybe Try some casien protien with meal-6, like cottage cheese, and How about 1 cup of oatmeal with Meal-1. What about your workout what does it look like? are you doing cardio?~BC

IronRobi
02-06-2009, 07:57 PM
That's a lot of compounds for a first cycle. 420mg/week of TrenA should be left for the more experienced user.

Dk
02-06-2009, 09:27 PM
That's a lot of compounds for a first cycle. 420mg/week of TrenA should be left for the more experienced user.

no kidding. i saved that for my second cycle

(haha im just as bad)




































i ****ing love tren

spankmonkey
02-06-2009, 09:52 PM
That is alot for first time around and I agree with others you need to lower fat first to get the desired results from "cutting" compounds.
Your diet looks fine. What are you doing for cardio and times at gym?

Ritch
02-06-2009, 10:00 PM
I pulled the needle out I was squirting like a dirty hooker being dp'd.
ApoC

That phrase right there is green worthy. And for sure it seems like a complex cycle for someone just starting.

tex
02-06-2009, 10:02 PM
wow. thats all i got......nothing constructive to come from me on this one......

apoc44mac
03-06-2009, 08:53 AM
Well based on comments etc I'll do the right thing and drop everything as of today. Keep up with the diet etc for the next 5-6 months and see how I feel/look @ that point. Appreciate the honesty and not getting bashed.

I'm assuming after only 9 days on I wouldnt need a real pct? I will listen next time as well and do only Test. Again I appreciate the honesty.

ApoC

nitrous
03-06-2009, 11:06 AM
i dont think your bf is too high for AAS i just think it is too high for those specific cutting compounds and that is really hefty for a first cycle.. an alternative i think would work well for you might be something like this:

test e 12 weeks 250mg twice a week
var 50-60mg ED (split up twice a day)

with that you wont have the pain from the winny.. you would feel great on it.. you'd probably get cut up.. and in my opinion it would be good for putting on muscle while losing some fat just make sure you are doin cardio like everyday plus workin out.. and that wouldnt be too much in my personal opinion.. at least it would be better than your last choice..

of course just workin on diet and your workout isnt a bad idea either

tex
03-06-2009, 03:38 PM
^^ good advice......your bf isnt too high to run a cycle.....just pick your compounds better :)

IronRobi
03-06-2009, 04:19 PM
i dont think your bf is too high for AAS i just think it is too high for those specific cutting compounds and that is really hefty for a first cycle.. an alternative i think would work well for you might be something like this:

test e 12 weeks 250mg twice a week
var 50-60mg ED (split up twice a day)



Great advise right here! Keep your first cycles very simple. When you start mixing 4 or 5 compounds in your first cycle, if some seriously negative side effects come up you'll have no idea which is causing it and then you get into a guessing game. Test being the basis of 99% of cycles, should be used alone or with a simple oral for the first cycle, then build from there. Save the rest for when you have some more experience, it won't go bad between now and then!

apoc44mac
04-06-2009, 07:21 PM
appreciate all the comments, my stubborn dumbass should have listened in the first place. I will just work on myself for a month of 2 and then maybe try the test-e and var cycle suggested above. Again thanks for the info/advice. I will make sure to listen more ofter and not be so stubborn.

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Avitoholis
04-06-2009, 08:42 PM
I wouldn't have quit everything all together. Just stuck with the prop and tren, if you notice the sides are to much to handle then quit. I understand some won't like my stance on this but I think many of us have done crazier things in our lives than ran tren on our first cycle....Just my two cents...Good luck bro.