Libido is ****ed.

[Dk]

first off heres my cycle. 1.4ml of Tnt- 250 Test:150 Tren twice a week, totally approx 650mg of test and around 400mg tren, dont feel like doing the math, i had it figured out before i just forget.

im taking 1mg Adex EOD, so that will obviously rape my libido, thats gotta be the problem, so heres the thing, i tried 100mg of viagra, waited an hour or so, and still, nothing, well i wont say nothing, it was hard enough to make her get off once, then it slowly started to fade before i finished, so at least she finished, so it doesnt bother me to much.

Then we sorta just hung out for a bit, then had sex again like an hour later, once again, it was hard for long enough to get her off, then yet again, as soon as i started working on myself i lost it.

could it all be mental? because my main focus is always the girl, so maybe when shes done im subconsciously thinking, ok no more pressure, and then i lose it. haha, i dunno, just throwing possibilites out.

thinkin of dropping the Adex and replacing with Proviron. Its obviously not as much of estrogen controller, but itll also help with libido.


like this is all recently, the last couple days or so. i had the viagra before so it kinda worked in my favour tonight coincidently having it, because who knows if i even woulda got hard with out it.

[natenator]

can't say for sure bud but am taking adex 1mg ED and sex drive and wood are in overdrive!

[Dk]

can't say for sure bud but am taking adex 1mg ED and sex drive and wood are in overdrive!

hmm.

well another possibility is my tren dose to close to my test?

but i dont really think its that because tons of people use 5* TNT with no such problem, actually, everyone says their horny as shit haha.

i dont know what else it would be.

what makes even less sense is how 100mg (2 caps) of viagra only gave me like..15 minute wood, then like a 20 min break atfer she was done, then another 15-20 minute go at er again.

but then again it could just be completely irrelevant to gear and i might just be getting used to condoms to much. Maybe ill try a thinner brand

[Benny62]

are you running HCG during cycle? Considered dostinex ever?

[wmk]

Try the cialis from the same ug lab. Works better than any viagra I tried, especially the second day! BTW, Adex kills my drive too.... I am not on tren atm so I only take anti-e if I get itchy nipples, but soon as I do the sex drive is done for a few days until i cut it back.... this includes getting and maintaing wood.

[Dk]

are you running HCG during cycle? Considered dostinex ever?

never thought of this actually.

progesterone does kill libido doesnt it?

no hcg, ran out and didnt end up getting more, was just gonna save it for last bit of cycle

like gettting wood is no problem, at least i can keep it up long enough to get my girl off, which is good enough for me. and its not really embarassing or anything, i explained to her its probably from the adex, she knows i use. So its really only my problem, because shes finishing so whatever

[Benny62]

maybe try cialas you might respond better to that. The mind sometimes can be the biggest libido assasin. If none of the above works try hot yoga!

[Benny62]

Try the cialis from the same ug lab. Works better than any viagra I tried, especially the second day! BTW, Adex kills my drive too.... I am not on tren atm so I only take anti-e if I get itchy nipples, but soon as I do the sex drive is done for a few days until i cut it back.... this includes getting and maintaing wood.

I agree with this, I only take half or a third and day two and three are pretty wild!

[nitrous]

agreed a lot is the mind... and i'd give the cialis a try for sure bro

[Dk]

was actually gonna go with the cialis first choice.

only reason i went with the viagra was because then the girl could use it to, because like i said, when i bought it, i didnt need it, i was just gettin it for the hell of it to try it out. Now that i have it i coincindently need it.

although it stills puzzles me how im sitting here like 3.5 hours later with 100mg of viagra still in full effect in my body, yet nothing, soft as a cotton ball haha.


im leaning towards the prolaction/progesterone possibilty now, maybe ill try some Sa dost.

[nitrous]

cant the girl use cialis as well?

[gustavo77]

Try some dost bro, 0.5-1mg e3rd day for the first few doses, then only 0.5mg e3rd day or twice per week....baser has a long half life. Don't take out the adex, adex has always helped my libido, never hindered it...high estrogen increases SHBG and you don't want that.

Proviron rocks also...50mg of proviron per day and 0.5mg of dost e3rd day and you should be back to normal or better.

[Dk]

cant the girl use cialis as well?

no idea, it was my first choice though cuz i liked the idea of being able to take it thursday night and being good to go for the rest of the weekend.

but since i didnt actually need it at the time, i just for it both of us to try it out, and i knew girls ccould use viag, had no idea they could use cialis.

[nitrous]

no idea, it was my first choice though cuz i liked the idea of being able to take it thursday night and being good to go for the rest of the weekend.

but since i didnt actually need it at the time, i just for it both of us to try it out, and i knew girls ccould use viag, had no idea they could use cialis.

yeah i'm pretty sure cialis works for them too

[RagingRandy]

Cialis and Viagra will only have a physical affect not a mental one. That is probably why you can achieve wood but not bust a nut. I know when my estrogen is high I have zero sex drive. No interest in sex or getting off.

[tex]

maybe its the girl. lets see some pics ;) but its probably prolactin.......

[Benny62]

maybe its the girl. lets see some pics ;) but its probably prolactin.......

awsome! LOL...yeah let's see.

[Solo59]

maybe try cialas you might respond better to that. The mind sometimes can be the biggest libido assasin. If none of the above works try hot yoga!

He just said wood is not his problem. It's the libido itself, desire, that he's worried about.

How long have you been on-cycle, DK? Sometimes a long run can deplete one's response to higher levels of testosterone, dulled receptors or some such thing. Maybe it's time to come off-cycle and cool your engines for a while. Or at least run some Dostinex. Proviron can help a little, but only if you're already into desire.

Solo

[Blitz-Test]

adex killed my libido so i threw the bottle in the trash, picked up aromasin with no problems...

Adex and letro seem to have a rep for killing libido...

250+ of test should be more than enough to keep tren from hurting you...

I would lower or drop adex

Pick up Aromasin and Proviron

[Kronis]

None of this advice will help you. Everyone from the Off Topic section knows you're having problems because you like men.

:D

Try lowering the adex dose before you go ordering a bunch of different drugs. Cut it in half and give it a week.

[Mr.Meat]

Try some dost bro, 0.5-1mg e3rd day for the first few doses, then only 0.5mg e3rd day or twice per week....baser has a long half life. Don't take out the adex, adex has always helped my libido, never hindered it...high estrogen increases SHBG and you don't want that.

Proviron rocks also...50mg of proviron per day and 0.5mg of dost e3rd day and you should be back to normal or better.

x2

Throw in some masteron or proviron in the mix... I prefer Masteron and since you're already using test/tren with the enathate easter you could roll with mastern enanthate... Or mast prop if you want the shit to hit quicker.

[ee_geek]

Amen to the dost/cabaser and proviron.

Prolactin will kill your libido big time, keep you from getting wood or coming. I had elevated levels after coming anti-depressants and it ****ed me up large. The dostinex / proviron combo worked for me. I had to take a lot more dostinex though,like 0.5mg ED. You will like the proviron cialis combo too!


Try some dost bro, 0.5-1mg e3rd day for the first few doses, then only 0.5mg e3rd day or twice per week....baser has a long half life. Don't take out the adex, adex has always helped my libido, never hindered it...high estrogen increases SHBG and you don't want that.

Proviron rocks also...50mg of proviron per day and 0.5mg of dost e3rd day and you should be back to normal or better.

[Dk]

He just said wood is not his problem. It's the libido itself, desire, that he's worried about.

How long have you been on-cycle, DK? Sometimes a long run can deplete one's response to higher levels of testosterone, dulled receptors or some such thing. Maybe it's time to come off-cycle and cool your engines for a while. Or at least run some Dostinex. Proviron can help a little, but only if you're already into desire.

Solo

Wood isnt the problem at first at all, but after like 15 minutes of sex it completly dies, without getting off even. Started cycle march 1, so im looking at a little over 12 weeks, was gonna go 20 till around july


None of this advice will help you. Everyone from the Off Topic section knows you're having problems because you like men.

:D

Try lowering the adex dose before you go ordering a bunch of different drugs. Cut it in half and give it a week.

Ill lower the adex does to 1mg E3D (i hate splitting these damn canadian ugl caps). Im def getting some dost though, because ive been on tren since march 1st, Ace first, and then switched to TNT.


Amen to the dost/cabaser and proviron.

Prolactin will kill your libido big time, keep you from getting wood or coming.


Thats exactly the problem, ive never, EVER had a problem with getting off sober, usually i have to concentrate to not get off having sex sober, now its a chore just to keep it up, let alone get off

im almost sure its the prolactin. i never even thought of it before this thread.

In my last 2 cycles (only 2 cycles ive ran) theyve included 300mg of deca for 10 weeks, then pct, then straight into tren ace and TNT following it. So if you dont count the 8 week pct inbetween ive basically been on prolactin causing drugs for a straight 25 ish weeks.

[spankmonkey]

He just said wood is not his problem. It's the libido itself, desire, that he's worried about.

How long have you been on-cycle, DK? Sometimes a long run can deplete one's response to higher levels of testosterone, dulled receptors or some such thing. Maybe it's time to come off-cycle and cool your engines for a while. Or at least run some Dostinex. Proviron can help a little, but only if you're already into desire.

Solo

I agree with the long cycle theory and would add that there may be a mental interest issue here too. My understanding about the effects of viagra is if the interest fades so will the wood. The physiological action of viagra is to inhibit a chem release which will trigger dialation of the vessles going into your wang, hense prolonged bonner. If you have little or no desire to carry on beyond satisfying your partner then this would correspond to the loss of wood after she gets off. Just a thought

Make her hold out longer and talk dirty and see if that experiment works for you.

[Ritch]

I don`t mean to bust your balls here DK, but using stuff like cialis and viagra at your age seems so weird to me. I mean what type of stuff will you be needing when you hit 40?

[Dk]

I don`t mean to bust your balls here DK, but using stuff like cialis and viagra at your age seems so weird to me. I mean what type of stuff will you be needing when you hit 40?

i know haha.

i just wanted to give it a go for the hell of it.

i didnt NEED the viagra when i bought it, i just bought it because its not even a buck a pill and 100 caps would be last me a long ass time. i just used it outta curiousity.

Techniqually i dont NEED it now either, i just need some dostinex to get rid of this prolactin then ill be back to my good old stiff dicked self.

[Dk]

anyway though, actually off to go and pick up some stuff now.

gonna go 25mg proviron x2 a day, so ya 50mg a week, morning and supper.

and then what about the dost dose? i know 0.5mg e3d like gustavo said is a good dose for preventing it, but what if i already have the issue, should i take more to get rid of it?

[gustavo77]

anyway though, actually off to go and pick up some stuff now.

gonna go 25mg proviron x2 a day, so ya 50mg a week, morning and supper.

and then what about the dost dose? i know 0.5mg e3d like gustavo said is a good dose for preventing it, but what if i already have the issue, should i take more to get rid of it?

1mg of dost eod for a week then run it 0.5mg either eod or e3rd day...depending on how things are going in the bedroom...

[Dk]

1mg of dost eod for a week then run it 0.5mg either eod or e3rd day...depending on how things are going in the bedroom...

just to stay on the safe side im gonna run 1mg dost and 50mg proviron Everyday till the weekend (girls comin over for the weekend haha)

Then sunday ill start 0.5mg EOD, but keep the proviron at 50mg

also, i know stupid question, but 500mcg=0.5mg right hah

[nitrous]

I don`t mean to bust your balls here DK, but using stuff like cialis and viagra at your age seems so weird to me. I mean what type of stuff will you be needing when you hit 40?

i've always been really curious on that too. i mean does it make it worse without it?

[nitrous]

I don`t mean to bust your balls here DK, but using stuff like cialis and viagra at your age seems so weird to me. I mean what type of stuff will you be needing when you hit 40?

i've always been really curious on that too. i mean does it make it worse without it after usin it?

[BAM]

I don`t mean to bust your balls here DK, but using stuff like cialis and viagra at your age seems so weird to me. I mean what type of stuff will you be needing when you hit 40?

strap on?

[Benny62]

Also you might want to start taking ZMA before bed, it's also high very high in Vita B6 which will with the prolactin issues and your jems and load volume! you might as well porn star it right up!

:a+

[tex]

strap on?
LMAO....all he needs to do is watch that cake farts video a few times and he'll be ****ing like a champ.....

[ee_geek]

That worked for me. I had the same prolactin issues. Couldnt bust a nut to save my life. Viagra/Cialis will not help you if you have high prolactin levels.
The prolactin reduction from dostinex is dose dependant, so it makes sense to front-load like you are doing.
I wish I had come on here for help like you did. These guys are giving you some good advice.

Yeah 500mcg = 500 micro grams = 0.5mg = 0.5 milligrams...

good luck!


just to stay on the safe side im gonna run 1mg dost and 50mg proviron Everyday till the weekend (girls comin over for the weekend haha)

Then sunday ill start 0.5mg EOD, but keep the proviron at 50mg

also, i know stupid question, but 500mcg=0.5mg right hah