Terrified of Tren Gyno

[MichaelKE]

So i just ordered the stuff for my next cycle: i really wanted to try Tren this time as i hear it is basically the the best anabolic steroid out there. I'm half way through my second cycle of Test E and i got to admit that I totally love this stuff -I am a completely different person than i was 6 months ago.

My plan for the Tren is 100mg ED, with 100mg proviron ED, and 500mg Test E a week. I was going to run the Test E alone for 3 weeks then all the rest of it for 7 weeks for a total of 10 weeks. To deal with any gyno that crops up i am going to have Nolvadex and Fareston on hand. I also have local access to Aromasin (Exemestane), Arimidex, and clomid. Being from a local dealer I can get it right away if i need it; should i pre-buy somthing just in case and have it on hand?

I didnt have any trouble with the Test E cycles: no bloat, water, acne, or anything else. So im not 100% sure what to look for and what to do if i find somthing. If i notice that i am getting tingling or sensitive nipples i do what? and If i start growing a lump under my nipple i do what?

I wont be doing this cycle for quite a while so i have time to source different aids if you guys think that is necessary: let me know which ones you recomend. Also if somone wants to give me a run down on the theory of this I am a little fuzzy on the specifics: As i understand it Tren doesnt aromatize but it does act by itself on the progesterone receptor (60% as well as progesterone) and some of its metabolites actually bind to the progesterone receptor better than progesterone. It also (by what pathway im not sure) increases prolactin levels, perhaps by alot. And Combined both of these effects greatly increase the risk for gynomastica.

What i am fuzzy on is if Tren acts directly on progesterone receptor and increases prolactin levels -what effect are anti-estrogens supposed to have on preventing or treating gyno?

Thanks again guys for all your help!! :D

[ee_geek]

Get some Dostinex/Cabagaser for the Tren prolactin related gyno.

[kyle]

So i just ordered the stuff for my next cycle: i really wanted to try Tren this time as i hear it is basically the the best anabolic steroid out there. I'm half way through my second cycle of Test E and i got to admit that I totally love this stuff -I am a completely different person than i was 6 months ago.

My plan for the Tren is 100mg ED, with 100mg proviron ED, and 500mg Test E a week. I was going to run the Test E alone for 3 weeks then all the rest of it for 7 weeks for a total of 10 weeks. To deal with any gyno that crops up i am going to have Nolvadex and Fareston on hand. I also have local access to Aromasin (Exemestane), Arimidex, and clomid. Being from a local dealer I can get it right away if i need it; should i pre-buy somthing just in case and have it on hand?

I didnt have any trouble with the Test E cycles: no bloat, water, acne, or anything else. So im not 100% sure what to look for and what to do if i find somthing. If i notice that i am getting tingling or sensitive nipples i do what? and If i start growing a lump under my nipple i do what?

I wont be doing this cycle for quite a while so i have time to source different aids if you guys think that is necessary: let me know which ones you recomend. Also if somone wants to give me a run down on the theory of this I am a little fuzzy on the specifics: As i understand it Tren doesnt aromatize but it does act by itself on the progesterone receptor (60% as well as progesterone) and some of its metabolites actually bind to the progesterone receptor better than progesterone. It also (by what pathway im not sure) increases prolactin levels, perhaps by alot. And Combined both of these effects greatly increase the risk for gynomastica.

What i am fuzzy on is if Tren acts directly on progesterone receptor and increases prolactin levels -what effect are anti-estrogens supposed to have on preventing or treating gyno?

Thanks again guys for all your help!! :D

To combat Tren gyno I have heard that alot of guys use Cabergoline or bromo. You can read about them in the profiles section. I'm sure I won't be the only one to say this but that is WAY to much tren for a first time user. Try starting at 25mg ed or even every other day. You can slowly increase the dose over a few weeks and then decide when the sides start to outweigh the benefits. Everyone is different but if was on 100mg of tren ed I would never get a good nights sleep. I would Have terrible night sweats. I would have a very very short temper and freak out at things that would normally not even bother me. My piss would be very dark and I would have an all around shitty feeling. Last but not least be smart if you start at 100mg ED there is almost a 100% chance you will have terrible sides and never want to touch tren again.

For your cycle try something like this

Week 1-10 500mg test E
Week 1-8 Tren 25mg EOD increase to ED if you feel ok after 2 weeks

Have some bromo or Cabergoline on hand incase. You said you already had some nolva so you should be ok.

[varking]

I would also like to know what should be used with tren for gyno

[theboss]

I would also like to know what should be used with tren for gyno

read above...its right there bro.

[Avitoholis]

Dostinex/Cabergoline.

[IronRobi]

what is listed above works great at combating tren gyno once you have developped it. I prefer taking another route and try to ensure it doesn't come at all. Take vitamin b6 in doses of 400-600mg/day as a good preventative measure.

Just as a side note, I'm going to have to agree with kyle and say 100mg ED is a lot of tren for a first time user. Especially if right now you're only on your 2nd test only cycle. I've run tren 3 or 4 times now and the most I can handle is 600mg/week. For a first timer, I'm going to strongly recomend you cut your dose in half. You'll still get incredible results.

Good luck!

[MaFFiaMan]

what kind of tren are you using Michael?

[Dozer1980]

good thread here i just started my first try at tren E at 200 mg per week with 500 mg per week of test e so far so good 2.5 weeks in feel great slight insomnia but nothing major i take benadryl if i cant sleep works good, no signs of gyno yet have caber on hand if need be, i think im gonna start taking that vitamine b-6 ironrobi great tip hopefully no signs will pop up hope you like the tren as well bro is think that 100mg is way overkill as well i tell ya 200 per week i can feel it huge i would try something like that if i were you good luck!.

[MichaelKE]

YA i thought i read somwhere that 100mg a day was a normal dose, but now that i stop to think about it 700mg of somthing 3-5x stronger than test is a hell of a lot :D i think im gona take my friend big benches advice and do 75mg EOD for about 250mg a week. I'm going to be doing Tren-Acetate (MaFFiaMan's Q) as my supplier is an actual pharmacy over in europe: since there not a UG lab they dont carry Tren-E.

I guess i'm going to have to find a source for Cabergoline or Bromocriptine to deal with the prolactin problems. God i hate finding new sources -why cant one ****ing company just carry all the shit i need (and be willing to ship it here: sucks to be a canadian somtimes :D) Maybe I could get a script for them? I wonder how they would take that at the walk-in clinic?

Any advice about how to approach a Dr to get a script for Cabergoline/Bromocriptine?

[kyle]

Good choice you will really get great results with that dose.

[juced_porkchop]

THAT IS FUKING NUTZ!!
i would never rec tren for s second cycle EVER.
i feel atleast years into aas and many cycles in maybe.
but if your going to do it anyway no way should you at 700mg ew .
try out 200-400mg ew.
i know guys that gain well on 200mg ew.
i would not rec going 700 ew.

go 50mg eod-ed. maybe

just my 2 cents.

[varking]

Hey bro you dont need tren for your second cycle... keep it simple

[Dk]

[QUOTE=MichaelKE;200026](and be willing to ship it here: sucks to be a canadian somtimes :D) QUOTE]

not really there are several really good cdn labs, you said you know a local dealer just ask him im sure knows a connection to one. Its alot easier to find then you think.

i know S.A has some dost, 5* doesnt make it