UGL info

[declan]

For those guys who have been doing this since the 90's, have you ever heard of *? I got a friend who said he's got some test made by the same guys. Old school fellas please chime in.

[JonnyO]

Sorry bro never heard of it.

[theboss]

ditto.....never heard of that...stick with the big UGLs and you wont go wrong

[Tiamat]

Never heard of em.

[Ongeau]

nope, not here

[Born2Juice4Ever]

Things change so rapidly in the industry...more so over the last few years.

I have not personally heard of that particular brand name, although I will say that there are very few old kool chemist around now a days. The ones who did not get popped during ORD are well hidden...and will remain hidden.



B2J

[tony_canuck]

how old are those guys? i've never heard of them....

[baza]

* was probably the first UG lab in Canada, or the very least the first known lab, and that was probably around 1999-2000.

[declan]

They said mid 90's they were big in vancouver, they produced blister packs and 2ml injects.

[baza]

I honestly don't think there were any UG labs in mid 90s.
Only thing that comes to mind would be a counterfeit operation of legit products like Normas.

If there some how was a lab, it was probably only local, and took a hell of a lot of convincing to get people to take it lol.

[deleteduser0001]

* was probably the first UG lab in Canada, or the very least the first known lab, and that was probably around 1999-2000.

+!

[meathead]

* was probably the first UG lab in Canada, or the very least the first known lab, and that was probably around 1999-2000.

Yea... * and * were a few of the first I remember. Never heard of *

[BAM]

I dunno.. using a lab with the name '*' would make me about as confident as injecting 'i fuct yo momma pharm'

[deleteduser0001]

i would think most companies want to get away from 'chemistry' as it implies 'please inject what i might of made in my bio class or my bathroom'

[declan]

Thanks for the feedback guys, appreciate it.

[Born2Juice4Ever]

BAM I think this is the first post out of 10 posts where you do not use that other labs name in a negative way LMFAO---I am actually surprised...are we seeing an evolution of BAM right before our eyes or what fellas:wb



B2J:tu

[Demon]

For those guys who have been doing this since the 90's, have you ever heard of *? I got a friend who said he's got some test made by the same guys. Old school fellas please chime in.

hey declan, nice to see you looked into in me first. i think there is no argument now as too legitimacy. I'm not here right now to advertise and to stay within the parameters of the rules I will not answer any questions regarding availability etc.. I merely have a few things to mention with regards to the production of aas's.
in this thread someone says that by using the word chemistry implies a bathroom, kid with zits that took grade 11 chem etc.., I'm sorry but that is the most ignorant and unfounded statement I've heard yet. Chemistry is the basis for all which is natural and unnatural, your body is made of chemicals, water is a chemical, air is made of chemicals, you get a hard on because nitric oxide, a chemical, increases blood flow (a plasma of chemicals) to your schlong or schlort, whichever the case may be which is a mish mash of millions of chemicals forming human tissue.
Every mg of juice that you have strategically placed as a depot into your ass, thigh or incredibly dangerous site inj. location is, yes, a chemical made by chemists at a chemical plant or lab.
Testosterone is a biochemical or when made synthetically, a chemical. Generally in industry it is synthesized from a select few diosogenin related compounds found in wild yam extract, that would be large scale. Small scale such as exhibited by the VERY few ugl that do synthesis (most simply dissolve raws in oil and say they produced it) will start with more expensive precursor materials that require less reagent chemical. These precursors include DHEA (a good choice because of its legality with respect to import), androstenedione (the easiest but not necessarily the highest yeilding) and androstenediol (the highest yeilding but usually more expensive than testosterone by about $1000 per kg). They are chemically altered through basic, very basic, oxidative and reductive processes. Androdione requires one simple reduction with sodium borohydride to yeild 80% test base, Androdiol, one simple oxidation to 95%+ test base, dhea a reduction then oxidation to 65-85% test base. Boldenone from dhea is exactly the same as test procedure and just uses a more powerful oxidation reagent to form the diene. Methytest from dhea forgoes the reduction and uses a methylation (form of reduction) at c17 prior to oxidation to test or d-bol if the same oxidation reagent as boldenone procedure is used.
There is no way to produce the test and steroids you take without chemistry, if you don't know that then you didn't study the topic enough to be educated enough to be self medicating with steroids. yes there are bacteriological and microbiological routes but those are still chemical procedures.
I'm not here to start a fight, just to try to dispell these myths about how steroids come to be and who makes them. I am not a kid with high school chemistry. I am a BSc, MSc, MD (suspended due to my conviction for one of the largest mdma labs in history in the nineties), I have a Bsc Msc Phd Phd in my employ, a psychiatrist consults with me and a chemical engineer devises my large scale processes. I will tell you right now if you have used some of the bigger named mexican products you have experienced Demon products, I have existed many years and been in charge of synthesis at many facilities. If my name was MuscleKing, or Mr. GoodJuice no one would blink an eye. The select few that have been lucky enough to be referred and put the predjudice of my fifteen year old moniker aside now happily enjoy likely the best situation they've ever experienced. Its too bad most of you will continue to struggle with european rip off artists who leverage your money until they decide to take a weekend off from the bars and bragging about their status as supply kings to chix with fake tits and can afford the postage to send your gear regular post.
*****this is not an advertisement or attempt at gaining customers I will NOT under any circumstances break the rules of this forum by answering pm's with regard to this theoretical and fictional supply company, there is no such thing as *, it does not exist*****

if anyone is interested in detailed synthetic processes that can be performed with simple materials at home and it is permitted i will happily make them available.

[Demon]

They said mid 90's they were big in vancouver, they produced blister packs and 2ml injects.

sorry dec , thats a bit of a mis-quote, it was blistered mdma, mda, 2cb, and the amps were 4-methylaminorex (euphoria) and 1,4butandiol.

[GYMBRAT]

Welcome aboard Demon! :)

[MMASTAR]

sounds like maybe he knows what he's talking about...

[hyperlite32]

That is a hell of a post demon...

[Mad-Bull]

I don't know about anyone else but I am definitely curious how that works!

[the-vanilla-gorilla]

I don't know about anyone else but I am definitely curious how that works!

+1!!!!



TVG

[deleteduser0001]

awesome rant. your point is unclear but letting us know that it was narcotics rather than anabolics is great.

[rob66679]

I think the point was he didn't appreciate people questioning the skill of the chemist based on the name of the product.

I'm interested in what he has to say, for sure.

[deleteduser0001]

I was not questioning the skill of the chemist, I was questioning the product based on the name given to it. If a lab names itself "stupid shitballs" I might question that also.

if he has more info, i'd be happy to read and learn.

[drdnj]

I was not questioning the skill of the chemist, I was questioning the product based on the name given to it. If a lab names itself "stupid shitballs" I might question that also.

if he has more info, i'd be happy to read and learn.

I think your logic is faulty

[Mad-Bull]

I was not questioning the skill of the chemist, I was questioning the product based on the name given to it. If a lab names itself "stupid shitballs" I might question that also.

if he has more info, i'd be happy to read and learn.

How was anything he said even slightly related to to "stupid shitballs" explain?

[Tiamat]

post up, let's see what you have to say

[deleteduser0001]

How was anything he said even slightly related to to "stupid shitballs" explain?

if a phantom lab appears and all anyone knows is the name, you judge on that, whether it be stupid shitballs . and my comment was not on what he said but rather his comments on my comment, please try and keep up.

[GYMBRAT]

:popc

[the-vanilla-gorilla]

:popc

+1! lol


TVG

[rob66679]

if a phantom lab appears and all anyone knows is the name, you judge on that, whether it be stupid shitballs . and my comment was not on what he said but rather his comments on my comment, please try and keep up.

I see what your saying, and I would not want to inject something made by a lab named dirtyBankokwhorepussy either.

I still think Mr. Demon was a little ticked about people making presumptions based on the lab name, thus his post regarding his education and background.

And I'd still like to hear his take on things.

[sdonnell]

haha how do you even compare the word chemistry to that of "stupid shitballs " / "dirtyBankokwhorepussy"....Chemistry is related to the product. stupid shitballs is not. thats like saying you dont shop at "shoppers drug mart" because mart sounds like a lower grade store....its a sells drugs the same as everywhere else.

[tiramisu]

Everyone knows "chemistry" is actually portuguese for "dirtybankokwhorepussy".

I don't think the original poster should be shocked that when he signs on to shill his company with vague references that he gets sideswiped.

The usual response is far less polite.

[ironwill]

ok guys....can we drop this whole topic...points were proven, everyones aware of who the ugl is,the rest is just going to cause hard feelings and bring unneeded attention to an unecessary thread, now we need to shut her down.....thank-you i appreciate your co-operation....omce i figure out how to lock a thread, im doing that.........
(walking away looking over my shoulder,from under the brow of my cap.. hands in pockets...)

[ironwill]

BTW, kudos to you guys...ive been a mod for awhile....first time ive had to lock a thread,,,,,,i love you guys....:shock

[pseclint]

just wanted to type in before you lock it down....... yep wanna be that guy

[ironwill]

u sum bitch.....im gonna have to watch you.....