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mo_sco
26-05-2009, 08:18 AM
Anyone had any luck getting their doc to prescribe Test or anything similar? I am off to see my doc to get my diuretic prscription (which he has no problem giving scrip for) but I would like to see if he would be willing to give me legal access to gear. Anyone had any luck doing this or any advice on how to approach the subject? I figure its worth a shot, anyways!

Thanks!

theboss
26-05-2009, 09:12 AM
good luck with that.

daande
26-05-2009, 09:16 AM
My dad got HRT perscribed to him (in the form of androgel) he asked the doc to test his testosterone levels which came back low since he is 50 and he got that stuff. They wont give him shots as they claim the gel is just as effective.

killer40
26-05-2009, 10:30 AM
im on hrt and have been for 2 years. 200mgs a week perscribed. I just had my test levels done and she said oh Christian you need some testosterone. Here is your perscrip. I am even allowed to pick up at pharmacy and pin myself each week. Good score I think Im 40,lol.

MAJIN VEGETA
26-05-2009, 04:19 PM
Sorry if this bothers UG's out there, you can remove this if need be, I doubt many have the nerve to try this. If you have the nerve to talk to a DR getting 8 bottles of test a month can be a joke, and that’s from any DR including walk in clinic DR's also all the products are free if you have good health plan and even if you dont test is always like 30$ a bottle. Use your god given Brain and think before you go into that DR's office and you will always get what you want. I am going to leave this thread now with one last very important word....... manipulating !

MAJIN VEGETA

RagingRandy
26-05-2009, 06:01 PM
^^^^ As was said "Good luck with that"

Solo59
26-05-2009, 06:06 PM
im on hrt and have been for 2 years. 200mgs a week perscribed. I just had my test levels done and she said oh Christian you need some testosterone. Here is your perscrip. I am even allowed to pick up at pharmacy and pin myself each week. Good score I think Im 40,lol.

200 mg ew? Man, that's way over natural levels. i want to meet this doctor!

Solo

Solo59
26-05-2009, 06:09 PM
Sorry if this bothers UG's out there, you can remove this if need be, I doubt many have the nerve to try this. If you have the nerve to talk to a DR getting 8 bottles of test a month can be a joke, and that’s from any DR including walk in clinic DR's also all the products are free if you have good health plan and even if you dont test is always like 30$ a bottle. Use your god given Brain and think before you go into that DR's office and you will always get what you want. I am going to leave this thread now with one last very important word....... manipulating !

MAJIN VEGETA
You may not realize this, but doctors are human beings like you. That means, despite their training, they are individuals each of whom has biases and predispositions. Some docs will prescribe and others simply will not. And that's just a fact. Others will have you physically removed for trying to con them, another fact I learned from my bad old days seeking vicodine:o.

Solo

gsxr750
26-05-2009, 06:32 PM
Was put on HRT at the age of 25 with a free test reading of 16.

I am prescribed 125mg Test-E a week with 350iu HCG 3x a week.

Changed my life!

I'm using UG gear for HRT at the moment with no problems, saving the HG.. maybe for a winter bulker ;)

MAJIN VEGETA
26-05-2009, 07:15 PM
All DR's are not the same, but I have seen 4 clinics, and every clinic hands it out to me with no problem, I guess they take one look at me and just know this guy has been on for a while. I also have seen many different DR's at each of these clinics, once one DR gives it out they all do, they notice by your chart history that you have had it prescribed before, so they have no issues. Also I do have a family DR and he also gives me test, and he's also the one I get all my blood work done. I have been doing this for a long time, no issues as long as your smart about it. There is no risk to asking, none, it will be yes! no! or go get a testosterone test done. I personaly have bent the truth about the situation with clinics, I am here for a refill DR asks for what, you respond testosterone cypionate by the company pfizer. You do the talking I take 100mg a week something low, just to get the script. Then if he asks you about your family DR tell him hes located in a different province, yukon and you have had a hard time finding another family DR.
Once one DR gives it out just keep going back to that DR for more and even mention That your going out of province for 3 months and could use some repeats.

The info is tryed and true, Again MODS if you feel you need to delete this NP


MAJIN VEGETA

mo_sco
26-05-2009, 07:24 PM
Majin Vegeta,

Thanks for the advice. I'm a lifetime natty, but I have been training for 17 years naturally...ready to try the other side of the coin so I'm getting up there in age. I'd like to give this a go and see what happens.

Anyone else have any experience with this?

As Majin said, I'm new on this board so feel free to remove if I am pushing the boundaries...but I feel I'm not alone out there.

A fellow I know who doesn't even lift was prescribed HRT and he lost about 70lbs of fat and gained at least 15lbs of muscle and the only training he does is the old station machines...changed him completely from a fat fellow to a guy who, if he lifted and ate right, would probably be competitive with me on stage and I've been competing for 9 years! OMG!

big_luse
26-05-2009, 11:40 PM
Pin only 100mgs of Deca a week before you get your blood work if you adamant about getting scripted gear. You natty test would be next to zilch and the rest of your blood work should be perfectly normal (assuming you arent on anything).

kyle
27-05-2009, 12:05 PM
your best bet to to get your levels tested a 4-6 weeks after a cycle so your natty levels will be in the shitter. That will probably increase your chances of getting a script.

killer40
28-05-2009, 03:32 AM
200 mg ew? Man, that's way over natural levels. i want to meet this doctor!

Solo
she perscribed it as 200mgs every 2 weeks. I up'ed it myself and told her. She just said if I feel better at that dose she is cool with it. Your right though she is a great doctor.

mo_sco
29-05-2009, 01:17 AM
OMG! He prescribed 100mg every week (just as I suggested!). He said to come back and do a blood workup after the 10 weeks are up! I'll have to suggest that I felt much better on this! Whoo-Hoo! I never would have thought it was that easy! OMG!

tiramisu
29-05-2009, 02:21 AM
other than the regular blood work what advantage is offered by having doctor prescribed hrt?

mo_sco
29-05-2009, 07:30 AM
For me, access! I'm in the middle of nowhere, man, and access to anything harder than Gaspari Haladrol has been a problem. Also, my position in the community would make getting busted for "roids" a bit of an issue. The dosage we're talking about is minimal, but for my first cycle it will do.

Solo59
29-05-2009, 01:00 PM
other than the regular blood work what advantage is offered by having doctor prescribed hrt?

You never again have to worry about getting back to natural HPTA functioning because you won't. Between cycles, you coast on exogenous moderate (hormone-replacement) levels of testosterone. This probably means PCT is not necessary, though HCG & some AIs certainly are.

The only worry is moving to someplace where exogeneous testosterone is not supplied. Then you'll be a eunuch, basically, until you get some good old reliable less-than-legal resources.:rolleyes:

Solo

Solo59
29-05-2009, 01:03 PM
For me, access! I'm in the middle of nowhere, man, and access to anything harder than Gaspari Haladrol has been a problem. Also, my position in the community would make getting busted for "roids" a bit of an issue. The dosage we're talking about is minimal, but for my first cycle it will do.

Sorry, but HRT is not an AAS cycle, though if your levels have been low it may feel like one, at first.

Solo

IGGY
29-05-2009, 01:31 PM
I've been trying to get my doc to put me on TRT just to feel normal again.
Doc refuses because if I do go on TRT it'll be for life.
I've been clean for the past 3+ years. Free test levels dropped during this year.
Probably has to do with me getting closer to 40 yrs old.

MAJIN VEGETA
29-05-2009, 01:39 PM
Near 40 and can't get Test, Man go to a new Dr, A walk in clinic, shit at your age you should never be refused test, Women get hormones for when they stop producing estrogen, progestogen, test, They can give women pills or now they have a very cool Patch that is made for the individual, Saw it on the TV show DR's Fran Drescher was using it. They also give women thyroid drugs with no problems, you not getting test is a joke, who cares if it's for life you will live longer and you will feel happier.

Go see another DR

MAJIN VEGETA

mo_sco
29-05-2009, 11:59 PM
I'm all smiles...all you have to do is ask! Especially if you are near 40. I just said my libido was low while dieting for a show and boom, no questions or blood work required. Just ask!

mo_sco
30-05-2009, 03:17 PM
Sorry, but HRT is not an AAS cycle, though if your levels have been low it may feel like one, at first.

Solo

So, what would you recommend for a first cycle? 400mgs/week? Or is that too low. Remember, I'm clean and lean (7-9% BF at 167lbs).

keypak
30-05-2009, 04:33 PM
your best bet to to get your levels tested a 4-6 weeks after a cycle so your natty levels will be in the shitter. That will probably increase your chances of getting a script.

hahaha
not a bad ****in idea.
That might work until you walk in the door and have to turn sideways to make it through..
but good idea none the less

Solo59
30-05-2009, 05:13 PM
So, what would you recommend for a first cycle? 400mgs/week? Or is that too low. Remember, I'm clean and lean (7-9% BF at 167lbs).

Sure, 400 mgs EW would build you up to man-size in ten weeks, but 500 mgs EW is the most-often recommended beginner's dose.

Solo

mo_sco
30-05-2009, 08:44 PM
Well, 10lbs of lean muscle would do wonders to a person...

force
31-05-2009, 03:11 AM
your best bet to to get your levels tested a 4-6 weeks after a cycle so your natty levels will be in the shitter. That will probably increase your chances of getting a script.

that is exactly what I did 5 years ago, got put on 100mg dela/week and 1000IU HCG/week. all payed for by my drug plan! been using/stockpilng ever since.

F.

mo_sco
31-05-2009, 09:56 AM
300 would be great! Did they just put you there or or did you request it?

It seems to me the best way would be to stockpile it and then up your intake for a "cycle" to something like 400-500, and then cruise on a lower dose of like 100 for recovery, and continue this regularly. I read somewhere that this would reset your normal set point. (?) Thoughts?

LIVEHARD
01-06-2009, 11:31 PM
All DR's are not the same, but I have seen 4 clinics, and every clinic hands it out to me with no problem, I guess they take one look at me and just know this guy has been on for a while. I also have seen many different DR's at each of these clinics, once one DR gives it out they all do, they notice by your chart history that you have had it prescribed before, so they have no issues. Also I do have a family DR and he also gives me test, and he's also the one I get all my blood work done. I have been doing this for a long time, no issues as long as your smart about it. There is no risk to asking, none, it will be yes! no! or go get a testosterone test done. I personaly have bent the truth about the situation with clinics, I am here for a refill DR asks for what, you respond testosterone cypionate by the company pfizer. You do the talking I take 100mg a week something low, just to get the script. Then if he asks you about your family DR tell him hes located in a different province, yukon and you have had a hard time finding another family DR.
Once one DR gives it out just keep going back to that DR for more and even mention That your going out of province for 3 months and could use some repeats.

The info is tryed and true, Again MODS if you feel you need to delete this NP


MAJIN VEGETA



LUCKY you

i have been turned down twice gone though all the hoops some of us would love DR gear!! so help us out where how send a safe e-mail

i live in ONT like you ! Doctor thought i was way offside

ottawaguy44
04-06-2009, 11:51 AM
LUCKY you

i have been turned down twice gone though all the hoops some of us would love DR gear!! so help us out where how send a safe e-mail

i live in ONT like you ! Doctor thought i was way offside

Interesting thread...i have been prescribed Testim (for a start of HRT) however I'm hesitant to go on it and have requested more tests...guess I'm in the minority here....

great board by the way!