Injection Frequency

[nitrous]

from what i understand the standard is one injection site per a week.. i've been doing 1cc in each delt a week and its starting to be quite painful.. the one delt seems a bit bruised from last week and just shot it again 1/2 an inch towards the rear delt from where the last was (old one was right in the center) and it hurt a decent amount..

and yeah im doing all the normal stuff to help.. i workout.. then shower.. heat up oil (its EO) in pin with 20g then switch to 25g 1" and inject and i put a heat pad on it afterwards for about 30 mins..

comments?

[liquidfire]

Rotate injection sites... Use your delts, quads and glutes. That way if you're doing two injections a week each site only gets hit once every 3 weeks!

[Iwant2Grow]

Rotate injection sites... Use your delts, quads and glutes. That way if you're doing two injections a week each site only gets hit once every 3 weeks!
wise^
and reduces scar tissue i´m told

[IronRobi]

If the site is still sore, swolen, or bruised... do NOT shoot into that site again until it's healed. There are tons of area's other than delts that you can hit. Glutes, Quads, Calves, the list goes on...

[hyperlite32]

tri's and Bi's are easy..

[nitrous]

yeah maybe i'll pick up some 23g 1.5" and add in glutes into the rotation...

was also considering trying a pec injection with the 25g 1"... how do you guys think that would go over with 1cc?

[JonnyO]

tri's and Bi's are easy..

Yeah until you get cellulitis like I do right now.

[hyperlite32]

what is cellulits? and infection I assume?

[HeavyD]

for glutes i go with 25gx 1 1/2,=painless

and im not sure if calves are considered a good site for beginers... but we all have opinions

[Praetorian]

Do not do quad shots..way too many nerve endings...not smart.
Delts, glutes, lats, rear delts.
P

[nitrous]

Do not do quad shots..way too many nerve endings...not smart.
Delts, glutes, lats, rear delts.
P

thanks P.. yeah i know RR mentioned it and even before reading that i figured i could never imagine doing it in my quads..

i think i'll go for the glute next and or maybe throw in rear delts.. how far back do you go for rear delts?

and 1.5" for glutes but you guys think 25g or 23g? i thought it was 23g but if the oil comes out of 25g i dont see why not to use that?

[Solo59]

Again, ventrogluteals. 1.5" with 23g unless you can squeeze oil out of a 25g. 23g only pinches as you cross the skin. Few veins, soft muscle tissue, deep & easy. On the side, so not hard to reach. Just below the hip bone (lilac crest) & above the hip socket (trochanter).

Solo

[nitrous]

hmm that looks like a weird one solo... i can flex that muscle that its talkin about injecting in so i guess i could see that but i think a glute would be easier wouldnt it?

nobody likes my pec idea for second spot?

[KINE]

Ya I do ventrogluteal, its very easy once you've done it once, I had someone put their hand there to find the area, now I just do delts, glutes, outerthigh and ventoglutes. The lats? that looks like a very vascular area, where do you pin the lats?

[AnabolicState]

hmm that looks like a weird solo... i can flex that muscle that its talkin about injecting in so i guess i could see that but i think a glute would be easier wouldnt it?

nobody likes my pec idea for second spot?

I like your pec idea. I just started shooting pecs, I keep volume to 1cc and use a 25g 1.5" pin and leave it stick out about 1/4". I find pec shots easier to do than delt shots as I can use both hands, no pain at all. Not to anger anyone but it seems to be a lot of whining about quad shots lately, I love them, 25g 1.5", outer quad, no issues for me.

[nitrous]

I like your pec idea. I just started shooting pecs, I keep volume to 1cc and use a 25g 1.5" pin and leave it stick out about 1/4". I find pec shots easier to do than delt shots as I can use both hands, no pain at all. Not to anger anyone but it seems to be a lot of whining about quad shots lately, I love them, 25g 1.5", outer quad, no issues for me.

ya i was thinkin i could use the same i pins i was using for delts.. 25g 1"... i'll probably end up doing glute next because so many people seem to do it and not have issues.. but may end up trying this who knows

[Seth]

I personally prefer to take the risk of hitting a nerve in my quads and be comfy for the injection. Never had a nerve hitting problem. That being said, I haven't done hundreds of injections, yet

[Skyblob]

for glutes i go with 25gx 1 1/2,=painless

and im not sure if calves are considered a good site for beginers... but we all have opinions

25g for glutes?
Ive been told by doc that 25g has some chances that your gear wont spread as well as 21-23g . So i use 21g! But if it works for you why change :P

[nisser]

25g for glutes?
Ive been told by doc that 25g has some chances that your gear wont spread as well as 21-23g . So i use 21g! But if it works for you why change :P

Get a doctor that was trained in CANADA...not ****ing Aruba.

[nitrous]

Get a doctor that was trained in CANADA...not ****ing Aruba.

lol 21-23g use to be pretty standard back in the day.. now i'd say most use 23-25g

[theboss]

Get a doctor that was trained in CANADA...not ****ing Aruba.

:beer

i always use 25g.....started with 21's years ago and it got old fast....

[Ritch]

Get a doctor that was trained in CANADA...not ****ing Aruba.

LOL! Well my delts are ****ing killing me from those shots this week. My first shot was on Monday and my left delt is still sore. Can`t really sleep on them either. I can barely raise my arms 45 degrees to the sides. Gonna try a peck shot today. Any advice here? From the pic I saw, the guy was poking in dead center. Man I hope this dosen`t cause similar pain. Is this pain because it`s a first time shot? Does it get easier?

[nitrous]

LOL! Well my delts are ****ing killing me from those shots this week. My first shot was on Monday and my left delt is still sore. Can`t really sleep on them either. I can barely raise my arms 45 degrees to the sides. Gonna try a peck shot today. Any advice here? From the pic I saw, the guy was poking in dead center. Man I hope this dosen`t cause similar pain. Is this pain because it`s a first time shot? Does it get easier?

weird my delts have never hurt like that.. try putting on a heat pad after you inject.. i find it helps quite a bit.. massage it lightly... and keep your hand steady when you are doing it

[Ritch]

weird my delts have never hurt like that.. try putting on a heat pad after you inject.. i find it helps quite a bit.. massage it lightly... and keep your hand steady when you are doing it

Yes I forgot the heat pad. I swear my delts hurt so bad, taking my shirt off hurts (even without the gear pain) and last night when going to bed I just said **** it and kept my t-shirt and sweater on. (Usually sleep in the nude lol) Even in the shower raising my arm pits it painfull. Ah what a life... The glute pain to me seemed much more tolerable.

[nitrous]

Yes I forgot the heat pad. I swear my delts hurt so bad, taking my shirt off hurts (even without the gear pain) and last night when going to bed I just said **** it and kept my t-shirt and sweater on. (Usually sleep in the nude lol) Even in the shower raising my arm pits it painfull. Ah what a life... The glute pain to me seemed much more tolerable.

i work out at night.. get home shower, jab, eat, then go to bed... while i eat i put the heat pad on... then i go to bed and when i wake up my shoulder pretty much feels good to go.. so it can get better

[Ritch]

i work out at night.. get home shower, jab, eat, then go to bed... while i eat i put the heat pad on... then i go to bed and when i wake up my shoulder pretty much feels good to go.. so it can get better

That`s a good idea to put the heat pad on before bed. But the 2 times I did shots within 3 hours before bed I had trouble sleeping but that could have been psychological...

[ironwill]

Yes I forgot the heat pad. I swear my delts hurt so bad, taking my shirt off hurts (even without the gear pain) and last night when going to bed I just said **** it and kept my t-shirt and sweater on. (Usually sleep in the nude lol) Even in the shower raising my arm pits it painfull. Ah what a life... The glute pain to me seemed much more tolerable.
i find that weird bro..maybe it has to much BA in the solution, or you may just have a low tolerance to pain....First shot always hurts for me when i start up again, but ALWAYS subsides quickly in the following shots...
you arent a stick man are you....lolol??? with bones right at the surface??jk, jk....:D

[Ritch]

i find that weird bro..maybe it has to much BA in the solution, or you may just have a low tolerance to pain....First shot always hurts for me when i start up again, but ALWAYS subsides quickly in the following shots...
you arent a stick man are you....lolol??? with bones right at the surface??jk, jk....:D

Well my other cycles were with propionate and knew a few guys who kept complaining about the pain, but never was an issue for me. We were using the same brand. Maybe all that herb I was smoking then was blunting the pain? Went to a friends hous tuesday and he was telling me I was too fat to use 1 inch pins in my glute. But he aslo thought it was necessary to stick a 22g 1 1/2 pin in my delt for proper absorption. Just have fat in the stomach region from buliking up from the end of last summer. And I get lean fairly easily. Much easier for me to be a stick boy than weight 230 lbs like now.

[nitrous]

lol at ironwill^ thats the only other thing i was thinking but didnt mention.. my shoulders are pretty meaty.. so that could be a factor but even for an average guy that has been workin out for a long time 1cc shouldnt be an issue i wouldnt think.. and yeah Rich it was probably psychological with the sleeping issue.. i've done 6 shots so far in delts (1 delt a week) all done before bed and i've had no issue sleeping besides a few weird dreams but i cant say that is a coincidence or not

[Skyblob]

LOL! Well my delts are ****ing killing me from those shots this week. My first shot was on Monday and my left delt is still sore. Can`t really sleep on them either. I can barely raise my arms 45 degrees to the sides. Gonna try a peck shot today. Any advice here? From the pic I saw, the guy was poking in dead center. Man I hope this dosen`t cause similar pain. Is this pain because it`s a first time shot? Does it get easier?

Having the same problem here... Did 1st shot on right delt, 1.8ml on monday and im still sore 2day... I took naproxen and alternate cold and hot on it.
What gear you used?
I did test prop and tren

[nitrous]

my 9* test heptylate is smoooth

[Ritch]

Having the same problem here... Did 1st shot on right delt, 1.8ml on monday and im still sore 2day... I took naproxen and alternate cold and hot on it.
What gear you used?
I did test prop and tren

On monday I shot 1cc of sal equitest, and it`s still sore. Feels like I`ve got a sunburn and the area is a little red. This is the left delt. Doing a lateral raise type movement is out of the question. On tuesday had a friend shoot 1cc of axio cyp and 1cc of axio npp. That shoulder is still pretty bad, not as bad as the left one however. Today I broke down and started taking tylenol about 3 hours or so ago. Since I`ve been on this cycle (about 4 weeks, I just feel like shit) even took the week off from the gym. Hoping everything is normal by monday.

Was going to do a pec shot today, but just said the hell with it and did a standing right glute shot for the first time. If this causes pain like every other shot I`ve done, I`m done poking myself. Have a friend who can do it but will have to take my total mg for the week in the same day. I still have a blue spot from a glute shot I did last week on the left side, that shot was done way too low.

Just wanted to add that just because I`ve had pain, from shooting, I`m not shitting on those labs. As long as my arm dosen`t have to get amputated I`ll be o.k. but for sure am not ever shooting my delts again.

[Skyblob]

Just wanted to add that just because I`ve had pain, from shooting, I`m not shitting on those labs. As long as my arm dosen`t have to get amputated I`ll be o.k. but for sure am not ever shooting my delts again.

lol ! but maybe your delts arent used to it again! i remember my 1st glute shots i was sore as hell and now its a joke, i feel nothing lol, ive made glute shot yesterday and i feel nothing man.

[nitrous]

last night i did my first week 4 shot and it was about the same as my day 1 shot.. all i have done is delts so far and so far havent had anything as bad as you have experienced Ritch..you try it at all like i did with doing it after a hot shower and heat pack afterwards? and doin that right before bed and right after a workout? i mean i shot last night before bed and this morning already i'm feelin only a slight amount of discomfort.. could try getting someone else to do it incase you arent being very steady.. also i'm assuming you were using a 25g 1" pin for your delt? and injecting with the muscle relaxed?

[Ritch]

last night i did my first week 4 shot and it was about the same as my day 1 shot.. all i have done is delts so far and so far havent had anything as bad as you have experienced Ritch..you try it at all like i did with doing it after a hot shower and heat pack afterwards? and doin that right before bed and right after a workout? i mean i shot last night before bed and this morning already i'm feelin only a slight amount of discomfort.. could try getting someone else to do it incase you arent being very steady.. also i'm assuming you were using a 25g 1" pin for your delt? and injecting with the muscle relaxed?

My shot on Monday I used a 25g 1" pin after a shower and was relaxed. I did go to the grocery store after but carried the lighter bag with my left arm, maybe that made shit worse, but now I can`t sleep on my left shoulder or raise my arm to the side.

The right delt shot was done by a friend who`s mom is a nurse, he was showed how to properly shoot and trust him. He did use a 22g 1.5 in my delt and this arm (which was shot on tuesday) is much more mobile. Shot wasen`t taken after a shower but was cleaned.

Not sure but maybe total mg in delts shouldn`t surpass a certain amount. The left one 450mg was injected and the right one had 300mg. Like I said, there is no way I`m doing this again in delts. I took a week off this week that`s ending to start on Monday, and can`t deal with pain like that on my cycle.

[Ritch]

What are you shooting in your delts Nitrous?

[nitrous]

What are you shooting in your delts Nitrous?

its 9* test heptylate...a 250mg 1cc shot..

i do the shower and stand sideways in the shower so the hto shower really heats up the muscle (this is even after the gym so already it should be really hot) and then get out.. clean with the alcohol swab.. inject.. and then heat pack for 30 minutes.. i do nothing with my shoulder just eat oatmeal and 3 eggs with egg whites added in and then bed..so after inject it gets the heat pad to help disperce the gear plus i then get rest in bed

[Ritch]

^^^ How about you try 2cc`s in your shoulder this way it will be close to the 450mg I`m doing to see if there`s any pain? LOL...

[nitrous]

^^^ How about you try 2cc`s in your shoulder this way it will be close to the 450mg I`m doing to see if there`s any pain? LOL...

to be honest i bet there would be a bit more pain but i doubt there would be much more.. i mean i shot about 11 hours ago and if i wanted i could work delts right now lol

[Ritch]

Well it`s too bad the shot was such a bad experience, but I just can`t bring myself to do that again, when the glute shots just seem safer and less painfull. I almost feel quezzy thinking of guys who do their lats and traps. No f`in way...

[nitrous]

i could see traps but it would feel weird.. my lats are pretty vascular though i dunno how well that would go over..

[HeavyD]

maybe you guys are just pussies?

just a joke relax, but do you guy think that its because you are not pro's at shooting yet?

there are good shots/bad shots, still happens to me at times.

but when i first started i would tense up and jab, or move the needle around alot while shooting, now i am confident that i have shot this muscle so many times that i know what im doing and am 10x more relaxed.

normaly the only pain i feel is from the gear itself, such as prop, other than that nothing i can shoot 2-2.5cc in delt and get very little pain from the volume of the shot.

calm down, make sure you know where to shoot, and jab that simple