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styler
12-10-2007, 07:10 PM
so i've been doing this cycle of test and tren. I'm doin this cycle because i have done it before and loved it. except this time i'm doing quite a bit more of each. so that brings me to my point. the first cycle i did i noticed a little gyno, so i started to take some nolvadex after these symptoms. so now on my second cycle i started taking nolva right off the bat. so i'm wondering if that will hinder or take away anything from the results? thanks dudes.

BAM
12-10-2007, 07:23 PM
Ive read ''not'' to use nolva with tren or deca as it may induce gyno or make existing gyno worse, but I've seen many arguments for and against this so I guess I'll just get out of the way and let a vetran answer.

R.F.S.
12-10-2007, 07:59 PM
There's a lot of arguments on this subject but here's what i know.
Nolvadex will block estrogen from binding to your receptors it will not destroy estrogen, Arimidex would be a better choice for that along with many others. If your gyno symptoms are indeed caused by your test then stick to nolva, but if it's prolactin related than you have a problem on your hands. Prolactin related gyno occurs in a small number of individuals and it is mainly caused by Deca or Tren. What you would need to combat prolactin related gyno is either some Cabergoline also known as Dostinex which has great sexual benefits by the way, or some Bromocriptine. I have tried to get ahold of some Dostinex but haven't found some for a decent price, it increases your load volume and orgasms are supposed to be insane....lol..

gustavo77
12-10-2007, 09:19 PM
There's a lot of arguments on this subject but here's what i know.
Nolvadex will block estrogen from binding to your receptors it will not destroy estrogen, Arimidex would be a better choice for that along with many others. If your gyno symptoms are indeed caused by your test then stick to nolva, but if it's prolactin related than you have a problem on your hands. Prolactin related gyno occurs in a small number of individuals and it is mainly caused by Deca or Tren. What you would need to combat prolactin related gyno is either some Cabergoline also known as Dostinex which has great sexual benefits by the way, or some Bromocriptine. I have tried to get ahold of some Dostinex but haven't found some for a decent price, it increases your load volume and orgasms are supposed to be insane....lol..

Bump this. I always use cabaser (cabergoline) with tren, just 0.5mg e3rd works wonders.

styler
13-10-2007, 12:44 PM
There's a lot of arguments on this subject but here's what i know.
Nolvadex will block estrogen from binding to your receptors it will not destroy estrogen, Arimidex would be a better choice for that along with many others. If your gyno symptoms are indeed caused by your test then stick to nolva, but if it's prolactin related than you have a problem on your hands. Prolactin related gyno occurs in a small number of individuals and it is mainly caused by Deca or Tren. What you would need to combat prolactin related gyno is either some Cabergoline also known as Dostinex which has great sexual benefits by the way, or some Bromocriptine. I have tried to get ahold of some Dostinex but haven't found some for a decent price, it increases your load volume and orgasms are supposed to be insane....lol..

thats's the thing tho. this is the end of the 3rd week of the cycle and i have no symtoms of gyno at all...except the small amount i had before, that never really went away. now i'm the only one who notices, the girlfriend says there is no difference and my nipples are fine. but maybe it's all just a head trip. i have an appointment with my doc next week. so just to be sure, i'll mention it to him. but thanks for the tips guys, i really appreciate it.

St
13-10-2007, 12:54 PM
I know Bromo is great for Tren gyno.

R.F.S.
13-10-2007, 12:57 PM
thats's the thing tho. this is the end of the 3rd week of the cycle and i have no symtoms of gyno at all...except the small amount i had before, that never really went away. now i'm the only one who notices, the girlfriend says there is no difference and my nipples are fine. but maybe it's all just a head trip. i have an appointment with my doc next week. so just to be sure, i'll mention it to him. but thanks for the tips guys, i really appreciate it.

Are your nipples sore and sensitive? and sometimes itchy? If not then you don't have gyno.

styler
13-10-2007, 01:40 PM
Are your nipples sore and sensitive? and sometimes itchy? If not then you don't have gyno.

they are sometimes but i wear coveralls at work all day, so i think it's just the friction from them rubbing. but like i say, i'll get the diagnosis from the doc next week.

BloodRage
13-10-2007, 07:16 PM
just to add:

Prolactin levels may rise with testosterone and other drugs as well, not just Nandrolone derivatives.

St
13-10-2007, 08:26 PM
just to add:

Prolactin levels may rise with testosterone and other drugs as well, not just Nandrolone derivatives.


Very true.

BAM
14-10-2007, 08:51 AM
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mcgirkz
07-04-2008, 10:56 PM
how does one know whether the gyno symptoms are from prolactin or estrogen?

is it best to get nolva and a prolactin inhibitor/blocker?

i was going to get some bromo, but i think i would like to test out the cabaser and reading the feedback from R.F.S.. Thanks for that heads up bro! :D