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MMASTAR
18-05-2009, 10:27 PM
Hey, Im 26 yrs old 6'2 185 lbs and probably around 15% BF. Ive been lifting steady for 4 yrs. At the start i was 17o lbs and looking to gain. I got up to 210 lbs and then started training mma. My coach told me to lean down and lose the "beach muscle" I fight at 170 and would like to maintain the body weight i have now (185 lbs) but lean out a bit. I have the diet part covered and am very strict about it. I was thinking of running my first cycle. I did some research and came up with this: 40 mg E/D of Anavar for 6-8 weeks. Remember i am looking to maitain my weight. What do you experienced people think of this?

monkey
18-05-2009, 10:38 PM
Go to your local GNC... they'll help you out.
As for your cycle... I never ran Anavar on its own but I dont really see the point of you running this cycle anyways. I just heard of people taking anavar on its own and gaining a few pounds while loosing BF...

MMASTAR
18-05-2009, 10:41 PM
umm... somehow i dont think GNC will help me find what im looking for. I forgot to mention i would run clomid at 50mg a day for 3 weeks after as pct.

gsxr750
18-05-2009, 10:45 PM
With anavar expect some noticable strength gain with very little if any weight gain. Also people report body fat loss around the midsection. You will also notice increased muscle hardness, and great pumps - with very little side effects assuming you get real oxandrolone.

mersanary
18-05-2009, 10:48 PM
And i also would be curious how to go about finding the product. I am in saskatchewan for anyone curious.

Don't ask for sources or you'll get banned. Edit that part out and you may have a good thread going.

Anavar is a great oral to add strength while staying around the same body weight. It helps too build a small amount of muscle and lose a small amount of fat (most visible in the mid section). A possible problem for you and your up and coming mma career is that anavar can mess with your your lipid profile. It can make you lose ur cardio endurance. It can also cause a painful pump while you train. 40 mg is a moderate-low dose but you may still feel your muscles cramp up from the vascular pump way before you usually do while doing repetitive exercises (punching drills and such). You can take Fish oil to help ur lipid profile.

Anavar will make you stronger but it MAY hinder your endurance. You also need to take liver care supplements while on, abstain form alchool as much as possible and do a mild PCT. Keep researching it

mersanary
18-05-2009, 10:49 PM
For mma a low dose test cycle with AI would be better in my opinion.

mersanary
18-05-2009, 11:00 PM
Another fun Fact: Oral steroids may make you more susceptible to body shots. A liver punch kick or knee hurts alot more on orals :D

spinalcolum
18-05-2009, 11:19 PM
Go to your local GNC... they'll help you out.
As for your cycle... I never ran Anavar on its own but I dont really see the point of you running this cycle anyways. I just heard of people taking anavar on its own and gaining a few pounds while loosing BF...


LOL,,Are you kidding??
I dont think you are going to get a good answer regarding anavar from GNC.

z83
18-05-2009, 11:24 PM
theres probably a fake OTC crap called analvar for double the price of the real thing

spinalcolum
18-05-2009, 11:34 PM
MMASTAR,,
What are the rules on steroids in MMA? Im asking this because i dont know....
Do you find anything wrong with taking steroids in a strength and aggression sport such as MMA?
I think that pro bodybuilding is one of the only sports where its obvious and generally acceptable that everyone is juicing..

when you pair 2 opponents with same skills and one is cranked out,,it can easily become an unfair advantage.

tiramisu
18-05-2009, 11:59 PM
Let's see. Anavar is expensive, suppressive, it's a 17-alpha-alkylated so it has a negative impact on the liver, it's comparatively weak for strength or muscular development compared to the alternatives. It does clear the body fast but so does test prop.

Benny62
19-05-2009, 12:41 AM
You'll find most MMA fighters or boxers who are using AAS are using mild anabolics like Anavar, winstrol, Boldenone, primobolan etc. In fact Stephan Bonar tested positive for Equipoise, Chris Lieben for winstrol in the last two years. Mind you those were two of the best fights in their careers IMO. But thems the brakes.

Another AAS that is quite popular among weight restricted athletes is Halotestin. Although it is more toxic than the previous mentioned, when used properly the strenghth gained from the drug is not followed by great increases in body weight and the competitors performances is greatly improved......plus your aggression for boxing and MMA is greatly improved...if that's an improvement?.... some fighters prefer to be calm and focused, so it depends on your style.

As for Anavar shutting you down, at 40mg a day it won't happen. You're testosterone serum levels will have about a 45% reduction and your LH production will fall by 25-30 % over 12 weeks. WITHOUT a PCT your hormonal levels will come back to normal within 1-4 months. If it's your first cycle you could gain up to 12 lbs and drop BF but if you restrict your calories and keep up your cario you can transform your body and lose fat retain muscle and keep your weight increase to around 3-6lbs.

metallord
19-05-2009, 02:53 AM
Doesnt seem like its worth the risk of possibly being tested before a fight.If your wanting to keep the same weight and gain strengh the halo is probably worth a try.Personaly i would just start training more like a power lifter up the weight and drop the reps,start training heavier to build up your explosive strenth.Ive used Anavar myself,you can get almost as much strength gain by training right.Just my opinion!!!

MMASTAR
19-05-2009, 08:58 AM
take a look at the guys in the ufc do you really think everone that makes it that far is naturally ripped? And i always take my vitamins, including fish oils, thanks to anyone offering real advice. And in canada they do not test for steroids in mma. Its not like i am a half asser looking to get ripped, im dedicated to my lifting, my training, my diet and i supplement properly.

MMASTAR
19-05-2009, 08:27 PM
Doesnt seem like its worth the risk of possibly being tested before a fight.If your wanting to keep the same weight and gain strengh the halo is probably worth a try.Personaly i would just start training more like a power lifter up the weight and drop the reps,start training heavier to build up your explosive strenth.Ive used Anavar myself,you can get almost as much strength gain by training right.Just my opinion!!!

That is how I lift... and there is no risk of being tested. Lots of mixed opinions on here. Anyone else care to weigh in?

ChillZ
19-05-2009, 09:59 PM
anavar will most definitely lean you out and give you some extra strength and hardness. You have to nail the dose down for your particular weight and bodytype to reap full benefit. My first cycle was awhile back but at 235lb I need minimum 80-100mgs to see excellent results. Like most other things though, if the diets not tight and if the training isn't full bore you are wasting your money. The s**t's expensive!

tiramisu
19-05-2009, 10:13 PM
Why not "test prop"? Better effect for a lesser price.

MMASTAR
20-05-2009, 01:10 AM
Any other ideas for what i am trying to do? My other option was oral turnabol but i heard its very hard to obtain. any thoughts? Just looking to get a little more cut and maintain my weight.

spitfire
20-05-2009, 01:16 AM
If they don't test for steroids in Canada mma then do a test + oral combo. My preference woudl be prop + var or winstrol + clen. Watch your diet and you should achieve your goals in no time.

Benny62
20-05-2009, 11:27 AM
I think Var is fine for what you want to achieve, oral T can cause major low back pumps and cramping in some people which isn't beneficial when shooting for slams, takedowns or grappling. Test prop is good too but for a first time user and not knowing how strict you are or if you know how to inject properly and protect yourself from infections I'm not sure I would recomend it. Also ask yourself if you will be able to inject ED or EOD (some people don't like needles). Plus Test will completely shut you down unless you run HCG during your cycle and then a more advanced PCT will be needed. Another good injectible for endurance sports is primobolan, and it's great with Var but the same considerations must be taken.

If you don't like the results you're seeing from the Var you can always add the test or another injectible after 4 weeks, but I think you'll be happy with just Var for your first time around. Just my 2 cents. Keep it simple and build from there unless you're going to be a bodybuilder..

MMASTAR
20-05-2009, 07:07 PM
Thanks Benny

Benny62
20-05-2009, 07:15 PM
No problemo :yeah