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8heyzeus4
15-05-2009, 01:06 PM
anyone else from Toronto pissed off about this? Putting infants and children at the front line to stop riot police from doing there jobs seems like the practise of.... whats that terrorist groups name Im looking for....??? oh yea, the taliban

gsxr750
15-05-2009, 01:10 PM
Yea it bothers me. Reminds me of what was going on in Caledonia.. The Natives broke so many laws and got away with so much it sickens me.

Although it would be interesting to pay a 5 thousand drug addicts to walk across the Area 51 no-cross line with cameras, and see how far they get and what they could capture on film.. and what security might do.

waderow
15-05-2009, 01:18 PM
just keep bringing them in. Canada caters to the worlds dysfunctional

Gettin'r'round
15-05-2009, 02:07 PM
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

another tamil protest..?

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tiramisu
15-05-2009, 03:17 PM
mmm deportation.
Either they are Canadian or Tamil. If they are Tamil let em f*ck off back to their own country.
If they are Canadian then get off the street.

Either way what exactly do they expect Canada to do about a foreign country other than accept their useless refugee asses?

8heyzeus4
15-05-2009, 05:22 PM
That's all I'm saying. What the **** do these people want our government to do?!!! **** off, if your so pissed off about this issue that your willing to piss of an entire city and put your infants on the front line then go to your birth place and do something about it! Why would I want to go to war for known terrorists who pretty much pioneered the suicide bomb belt that is killing my brothers and sisters overseas? I'll puke if government interveens

Bowlcut
15-05-2009, 08:57 PM
All the government can really do is tell Sri Lanka off.
Big deal.

cdnsoldier
15-05-2009, 11:23 PM
mmm deportation.
Either they are Canadian or Tamil. If they are Tamil let em f*ck off back to their own country.
If they are Canadian then get off the street.

Either way what exactly do they expect Canada to do about a foreign country other than accept their useless refugee asses?


Then same should apply to Israeli flying Israel flags on Creation Day. Or Italians/ Croats/Porteguese/Greeks closing down traffic during world cup.

You show your ignorance. If your family was being slaughtered in a foreign land what would you do?

I think the Native Indians feel the same about us. They were here first so we should all pack up and go back to Europe.

tiramisu
15-05-2009, 11:38 PM
Then same should apply to Israeli flying Israel flags on Creation Day. Or Italians/ Croats/Porteguese/Greeks closing down traffic during world cup.

You show your ignorance. If your family was being slaughtered in a foreign land what would you do?

I think the Native Indians feel the same about us. They were here first so we should all pack up and go back to Europe.


If my family was being slaughtered in MY Country I would likely be in iit fighting with sticks, stones and broken bottles rather than uselessly pissing about on toronto street corners.

If it seems ignorant to you to expect those who wish to become Canadian to pay the price of loyalty to this country than I'm a bit surprised.

More to the point, yes I think it is utter horseshit that those seeking citizenship as Canadians feel that their first allegiance can be to another country.
I think your World Cup example is a specious argument and you can do better.

More pragmatically

I believe that jumping up and down on a Toronto street can have no positive effect on the issues facing their families.

I believe the use of women and children to dissuade policemen from doing their job exposes a rather sad cultural weakness that may be symptomatic of the larger problem.

Further I believe many of these individuals are likely involved in criminal enterprise within Canada to help financially support war actions within their own country creating suffering in ours as a result.

I don't think I will apologize for being Canadian or realistic. I would prefer that Canada is not lowered to the common denominator of impoverished countries at war.

This may or may not make me an Asshole but it does not make me ignorant.

cdnsoldier
15-05-2009, 11:42 PM
If my family was being slaughtered in MY Country I would likely be in iit fighting with sticks, stones and broken bottles rather than uselessly pissing about on toronto street corners.

If it seems ignorant to you to expect those who wish to become Canadian to pay the price of loyalty to this country than I'm a bit surprised.

More to the point, yes I think it is utter horseshit that those seeking citizenship as Canadians feel that their first allegiance can be to another country.
I think your World Cup example is a specious argument and you can do better.

More pragmatically

I believe that jumping up and down on a Toronto street can have no positive effect on the issues facing their families.

I believe the use of women and children to dissuade policemen from doing their job exposes a rather sad cultural weakness that may be symptomatic of the larger problem.

Further I believe many of these individuals are likely involved in criminal enterprise within Canada to help financially support war actions within their own country creating suffering in ours as a result.

I don't think I will apologize for being Canadian or realistic. I would prefer that Canada is not lowered to the common denominator of impoverished countries at war.

This may or may not make me an Asshole but it does not make me ignorant.


1. You would NOT be fighting. You would be doing the same and probably less.
2. They are as canadian as you are unless you are 100% Native Indian. In other words- Don't like the freedom of protest? Go back home. Or better yet head down town and tell the Tamils how much you dislike their protest. That's a good ideal. All these armchaor tough guys seems to bitch and whine a lot. Head on down,

It's like when teh Oka Indians did their thing every one got tough after the army went in. Previous to that not a ONE person went down to even say boo to them.

This is Canada. You know these things happen. If you don't like it take a hike or next time Italy wins a cup please complian when they shut the streets down for a month. Or the Taste of Danforth. Tell teh Greeks to keep moving.Other wise, you know- go back home.

tiramisu
16-05-2009, 12:05 AM
1. You would NOT be fighting. You would be doing the same and probably less.
2. They are as canadian as you are unless you are 100% Native Indian. In other words- Don't like the freedom of protest? Go back home. Or better yet head down town and tell the Tamils how much you dislike their protest. That's a good ideal. All these armchaor tough guys seems to bitch and whine a lot. Head on down,

It's like when teh Oka Indians did their thing every one got tough after the army went in. Previous to that not a ONE person went down to even say boo to them.

This is Canada. You know these things happen. If you don't like it take a hike or next time Italy wins a cup please complian when they shut the streets down for a month. Or the Taste of Danforth. Tell teh Greeks to keep moving.Other wise, you know- go back home.

I still think you can do better. The right to protest is pretty good. I don't believe that your argument with regard to the cup is valid though. The argument is not against multi-culturalism. The right to protest is an interesting one as those who have protested against the World Bank and Free Trade Organizations have discovered. The right to protest and question is clearly fundamental but the rights of other need to be considered as well.

The active support of a criminal organization is called a conspiracy and is of itself criminal. This is not a right.

Protesting in an unlawful manner is also not a right as far as I am aware but there is a lot of gray there.

The celebration of a sporting event has little to do with these issues.
Nor have you addressed the use of women or children as shields or the relative criminal activity in support of terrorist activities.

I'm going to go see if I have any gin.

tex
16-05-2009, 07:23 AM
i went down to the protest and look what happened....

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8heyzeus4
16-05-2009, 12:20 PM
If my family was being slaughtered in MY Country I would likely be in iit fighting with sticks, stones and broken bottles rather than uselessly pissing about on toronto street corners.

If it seems ignorant to you to expect those who wish to become Canadian to pay the price of loyalty to this country than I'm a bit surprised.

More to the point, yes I think it is utter horseshit that those seeking citizenship as Canadians feel that their first allegiance can be to another country.
I think your World Cup example is a specious argument and you can do better.

More pragmatically

I believe that jumping up and down on a Toronto street can have no positive effect on the issues facing their families.

I believe the use of women and children to dissuade policemen from doing their job exposes a rather sad cultural weakness that may be symptomatic of the larger problem.

Further I believe many of these individuals are likely involved in criminal enterprise within Canada to help financially support war actions within their own country creating suffering in ours as a result.

I don't think I will apologize for being Canadian or realistic. I would prefer that Canada is not lowered to the common denominator of impoverished countries at war.

This may or may not make me an Asshole but it does not make me ignorant.


I agree with everything you said. its ALL true.

8heyzeus4
16-05-2009, 12:26 PM
1. You would NOT be fighting. You would be doing the same and probably less.
2. They are as canadian as you are unless you are 100% Native Indian. In other words- Don't like the freedom of protest? Go back home. Or better yet head down town and tell the Tamils how much you dislike their protest. That's a good ideal. All these armchaor tough guys seems to bitch and whine a lot. Head on down,

It's like when teh Oka Indians did their thing every one got tough after the army went in. Previous to that not a ONE person went down to even say boo to them.

This is Canada. You know these things happen. If you don't like it take a hike or next time Italy wins a cup please complian when they shut the streets down for a month. Or the Taste of Danforth. Tell teh Greeks to keep moving.Other wise, you know- go back home.

wow, Im very suprised that these arguments are comming from a guy whos name is CanadianSoldier. I couldnt disagree with you anymore. For 1, I am 3rd gen Canadian and in each one of those generations the males in my family have served in the Canadian Forces. Are you telling me that some people that just came to this country seeking refugee status a year ago are equally as Canadian as me?!

As for your Italy and Greek argument, there is a big difference between a nation of people using the streets of toronto to celebrate rather then protest. You want an example of proper protesting, look at the Tibetans protest last year. That sir is how you get a nation on your side.

You keep saying go home, go back home.. to where? Picton Ontario, lol?

moneypit
16-05-2009, 03:18 PM
wow, Im very suprised that these arguments are comming from a guy whos name is CanadianSoldier. I couldnt disagree with you anymore. For 1, I am 3rd gen Canadian and in each one of those generations the males in my family have served in the Canadian Forces. Are you telling me that some people that just came to this country seeking refugee status a year ago are equally as Canadian as me?!

As for your Italy and Greek argument, there is a big difference between a nation of people using the streets of toronto to celebrate rather then protest. You want an example of proper protesting, look at the Tibetans protest last year. That sir is how you get a nation on your side.

You keep saying go home, go back home.. to where? Picton Ontario, lol?

agreed, if they want to protest peacefully because we live in a peaceful country that we are all blessed to have then go for it ... but if they want to continue to use the tactics they are using IE breaking our laws and endangering lives then they can F-OFF back to their own country

cdnsoldier
16-05-2009, 06:26 PM
wow, Im very suprised that these arguments are comming from a guy whos name is CanadianSoldier. I couldnt disagree with you anymore. For 1, I am 3rd gen Canadian and in each one of those generations the males in my family have served in the Canadian Forces. Are you telling me that some people that just came to this country seeking refugee status a year ago are equally as Canadian as me?!

As for your Italy and Greek argument, there is a big difference between a nation of people using the streets of toronto to celebrate rather then protest. You want an example of proper protesting, look at the Tibetans protest last year. That sir is how you get a nation on your side.

You keep saying go home, go back home.. to where? Picton Ontario, lol?


You mean your family originated in Picton Ontario? So what tribe are you?

I figjt for Canada. For Canadians. ALL Canadians. No difference if you were a Canadian for one day. Or for life. At one point you came her a "refugee" or landed immigrant . So get off your high horse.

They have a right to protest. i don't agree with everything they do but I am not ignorant enough to say I wouldn't do the same if I have family overseas being torn to shreds by mortar bombs.

You know , if you have any cops friends in the York Region or Toronto Police force ask them this: How much do synagogoues pay to have police protection during services?

The answer is ZERO. Two uniform cops for 4 hrs. per service. That's their allowment. Free of charge bulled to you- The tax payer. I never hear anyone complain much less bring this up. OOhhhhh that's right they were targeted by Lebanese terrorist in some plot uncovered via "intercepted" messages caught in God knows where and no one in public even seen te evidence. But hey, we have to protect them.

How long have most of those Russian Jews been in Canada? How many scams, crime do these Jews committ? It cost the cops a lot more than 10000000 Sri Lankan protest but yet no one thumps their chest. I wonder why? Because unilke the Sri Lankan community, if you dare point this out you'll get a new asshole torn.

the Sri Lakans are like the weak kid in the school yard. An easy target for bullies.

moneypit
16-05-2009, 07:26 PM
You mean your family originated in Picton Ontario? So what tribe are you?

I figjt for Canada. For Canadians. ALL Canadians. No difference if you were a Canadian for one day. Or for life. At one point you came her a "refugee" or landed immigrant . So get off your high horse.

They have a right to protest. i don't agree with everything they do but I am not ignorant enough to say I wouldn't do the same if I have family overseas being torn to shreds by mortar bombs.

You know , if you have any cops friends in the York Region or Toronto Police force ask them this: How much do synagogoues pay to have police protection during services?

The answer is ZERO. Two uniform cops for 4 hrs. per service. That's their allowment. Free of charge bulled to you- The tax payer. I never hear anyone complain much less bring this up. OOhhhhh that's right they were targeted by Lebanese terrorist in some plot uncovered via "intercepted" messages caught in God knows where and no one in public even seen te evidence. But hey, we have to protect them.

How long have most of those Russian Jews been in Canada? How many scams, crime do these Jews committ? It cost the cops a lot more than 10000000 Sri Lankan protest but yet no one thumps their chest. I wonder why? Because unilke the Sri Lankan community, if you dare point this out you'll get a new asshole torn.

the Sri Lakans are like the weak kid in the school yard. An easy target for bullies.

Actually those officers are pay duty officers...meaning they are paid for by the church....and paid well.

8heyzeus4
16-05-2009, 07:44 PM
Actually those officers are pay duty officers...meaning they are paid for by the church....and paid well.

It's unfortunate that HE uses the word ignorant in that post. I'm not even going to bother poking anymore holes in that sinking ship.

cdnsoldier
16-05-2009, 11:45 PM
Actually those officers are pay duty officers...meaning they are paid for by the church....and paid well.


I can guarentee you any synagogue named in that "threat" (you remember when that Lebanese guy got caught at the boarder?) gets FREE service any time for 4 hours per service. They are paid though- By you and me.

cdnsoldier
16-05-2009, 11:47 PM
It's unfortunate that HE uses the word ignorant in that post. I'm not even going to bother poking anymore holes in that sinking ship.


If you could you would. But you can't so you just sneak away into the gutter like most of your types. You claim you are "Canadian" but what have you done for Canada? Except come as a refugee or a landed immigrant? And are you sure your forefathers came as landed and not as refugees? You have documents?

8heyzeus4
17-05-2009, 01:13 AM
If you could you would. But you can't so you just sneak away into the gutter like most of your types. You claim you are "Canadian" but what have you done for Canada? Except come as a refugee or a landed immigrant? And are you sure your forefathers came as landed and not as refugees? You have documents?

You really want to go there? You dont know anything about me or the type of person I am so you should do your best to refrain from personal attacks on me. But since you did....

8heyzeus4
17-05-2009, 01:33 AM
You mean your family originated in Picton Ontario? So what tribe are you?

I figjt for Canada. For Canadians. ALL Canadians. No difference if you were a Canadian for one day. Or for life. At one point you came her a "refugee" or landed immigrant . So get off your high horse.

They have a right to protest. i don't agree with everything they do but I am not ignorant enough to say I wouldn't do the same if I have family overseas being torn to shreds by mortar bombs.

You know , if you have any cops friends in the York Region or Toronto Police force ask them this: How much do synagogoues pay to have police protection during services?

The answer is ZERO. Two uniform cops for 4 hrs. per service. That's their allowment. Free of charge bulled to you- The tax payer. I never hear anyone complain much less bring this up. OOhhhhh that's right they were targeted by Lebanese terrorist in some plot uncovered via "intercepted" messages caught in God knows where and no one in public even seen te evidence. But hey, we have to protect them.

How long have most of those Russian Jews been in Canada? How many scams, crime do these Jews committ? It cost the cops a lot more than 10000000 Sri Lankan protest but yet no one thumps their chest. I wonder why? Because unilke the Sri Lankan community, if you dare point this out you'll get a new asshole torn.

the Sri Lakans are like the weak kid in the school yard. An easy target for bullies.

Not that it’s any of your business, but my family originated in England and settled in Picton Ontario OVER 100 years ago. If that’s not Canadian what is?

What are your credentials? You say you fight for all Canadians? Well what War have you fought in? Have you been overseas? Are you Reg force, Reserves? Where are you based out of? I'm calling you bluff on this. As for the argument at hand (The TAMIL TIGERS!!!) not whatever you have tried to turn this into, YES there is a ****ing difference between migrant Canadians and whatever they claim to be. This is a TERRORIST organization that is recognized by the same Canadian government that your work for. The same people that invented the suicide belt and developed practices of putting children at the front line. This is something you should have learned in BMQ never mind the extensive training required to actually go overseas which you claim to have done. You are trying so hard to pigeon hole me as a racist but the fact is that if you want to be Canadian then you can be Canadian, Im fine with that. Come to MY country, be peaceful and if your here for a day or 15 years I don’t care. The rights of others have to be considered, and when you cripple a city for a protest that has NOTHING to do with anyone in the city except the people protesting it is unacceptable. These people are REFUGEES! It doesn’t bother you that they come here because they know they are in danger, come here for a better life and a chance to live in a free country and then take advantage of us? You say you would protest too if your family was being mortared out of existence? Then your a coward. If you were a real soldier like you claim to be you wouldnt be protesting, you would be over there fighting with your slaughtered family, not hiding out in another country pissing off its residents.

And yes you are ignorant. If police assistance is needed for an emergency then we pay for it in our tax dollars, BUT if a church, school, hospital or library wants private security from the Police then THEY pay them for it. $67 Bucks an hour four our minimum to be exact.

cdnsoldier
17-05-2009, 02:46 AM
Not that it’s any of your business, but my family originated in England and settled in Picton Ontario OVER 100 years ago. If that’s not Canadian what is?

What are your credentials? You say you fight for all Canadians? Well what War have you fought in? Have you been overseas? Are you Reg force, Reserves? Where are you based out of? I'm calling you bluff on this. As for the argument at hand (The TAMIL TIGERS!!!) not whatever you have tried to turn this into, YES there is a ****ing difference between migrant Canadians and whatever they claim to be. This is a TERRORIST organization that is recognized by the same Canadian government that your work for. The same people that invented the suicide belt and developed practices of putting children at the front line. This is something you should have learned in BMQ never mind the extensive training required to actually go overseas which you claim to have done. You are trying so hard to pigeon hole me as a racist but the fact is that if you want to be Canadian then you can be Canadian, Im fine with that. Come to MY country, be peaceful and if your here for a day or 15 years I don’t care. The rights of others have to be considered, and when you cripple a city for a protest that has NOTHING to do with anyone in the city except the people protesting it is unacceptable. These people are REFUGEES! It doesn’t bother you that they come here because they know they are in danger, come here for a better life and a chance to live in a free country and then take advantage of us? You say you would protest too if your family was being mortared out of existence? Then your a coward. If you were a real soldier like you claim to be you wouldnt be protesting, you would be over there fighting with your slaughtered family, not hiding out in another country pissing off its residents.

And yes you are ignorant. If police assistance is needed for an emergency then we pay for it in our tax dollars, BUT if a church, school, hospital or library wants private security from the Police then THEY pay them for it. $67 Bucks an hour four our minimum to be exact.

I stoped at the part where you claimed your family has been here "100 years" so you are Canadian. Big whoop. You have documents that the first arrived were "legal" or would they also be classified "refugees". You're no special than a Tamil that has been here 5 years and is a Canadian. A Canadian is a Canadian is a Canadian. JUst like our former Prime Minister Mulroney who over the last few weeks has proven just how great of a "Canadian" he and his 7 generations of "Canadians" were. He was such a great "Canadian" he got paid 250K cash at a time to help new 'refugees' (arms dealers from Europe) while he was usposed to be representing you and I. So in your estimation is he a better Canadian than the Tamil who washes dishes at 9 bucks a hour and pays his taxes? Of course. He's white and has been here for ages upon and ages and his family settled in some yokle farming town like yours so he must be a great CDN huh?


Here's the official list of 'terrorist" organizations:


Abu Nidal Organization (ANO)
Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG)
Al Jihad (AJ)
Al Qaida
Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigade (AAMB)
Al-Gama'a al-Islamiyya (AGAI)
Al-Ittihad Al-Islam (AIAI)
Ansar al-Islam (AI)
Armed Islamic Group (GIA)
Asbat Al-Ansar ("The League of Partisans")
Aum Shinrikyo
Autodefensas Unidas de Colombia (AUC)
Babbar Khalsa (BK)
Ejército de Liberación Nacional (ELN)
Euskadi Ta Askatasuna (ETA)
Fuerzas Armadas Revolucionarias de Colombia (FARC)
Gulbuddin Hekmatyar
Hamas (Harakat Al-Muqawama Al-Islamiya) ("Islamic Resistance Movement")
Harakat ul-Mudjahidin (HuM)
Hezb-e Islami Gulbuddin (HIG)
Hizballah
International Sikh Youth Federation (ISYF)
Islamic Army of Aden (IAA)
Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU)
Jaish-e-Mohammed (JeM)
Jemaah Islamiyyah (JI)
Kahane Chai (KACH)
Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK)
Lashkar-e-Jhangvi (LJ)
Lashkar-e-Tayyiba (LeT)
Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE)
Mujahedin e Khalq (MEK)
Palestine Liberation Front (PLF)
Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ)
Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine - General Command (PFLP-GC)
Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP)
Salafist Group for Call and Combat (GSPC)
Sendero Luminoso (SL)
Vanguards of Conquest (VOC)
World Tamil Movement (WTM)


The PKK? You mean the same PKK that Harper was praising as a "partner" in the fight agaist Hussein? The same PKK that was and is protected and the reason why the "no fly zone" was created inthe 90's? The same PKK we give "aid" to? Hizbillah is on there? Why? Outside of Lebanon what have they done except kick the IDF's ass out? ELN is on there? I wonder why. Wouldn't have anyting to do with Oil companies who use dthem to clean up certain areas in the Americas would it? Nah. They are on the list so they must be terrorist.

You clearly have a sperficial if not racist attitude to what constitutes a "Canadian". Truth bne told I could care less about the Tamils or their cause. But I will defend their right to protest and if they close down a street or two? So what. It's done for months during world cup and yes women and children are on those streets. The cops don't go in and "bust" head then why should they do it now? Nice try though.

buildinthaskinnys
17-05-2009, 04:45 PM
Considering all you have to do to get on that list is essentially try to undermine governments with tactics, such as kidnappings, assassinations, and sabatoge ( i.e. Planned tactical strike ) I really believe the CIA should also be put on this list.

Oh and also its honorable that you would defend this minority group of canadians, but at the same time, what makes you so sure that any of them are canadian and not here claiming refugee status only? No one is canadian the moment they land here, certainly not legally, because it takes three years living in canada to attain canadian citizenship.

And people call the tamil tigers terrorists, but they are only terrorists against the corrupt sri lankan government that they were fighting, they have never attacked anyone else.

And Canada can't do shit to stop the bloodshed, we can send more aid which we already did and thats it so STFU! if we impose economic sanctions like these retards on the highway suggest, then the non-tamils that dont have anything to do with the war suffer and for what? The tigers are finished.

warlock
17-05-2009, 05:14 PM
I was going to post about the Tamils and them I saw this.

Have you guys heard of PM???