Hoping for some advice

[waderow]

I am really liking a couple girls at the same time right now, with two very different types.

Girl 1:
20yo, mature beyond her years, no joke 10 out of 10 in looks and body, we talk for hours and hours and it just flows with no pressure. we laugh, we click. She had a hard life growing up with no parental support, but she persevered and is making her own life through responsibility and hard work.
She made one mistake 2 years ago and got pregnant, and decided to be a single mom, and she loves her baby to death, balances a full time job, her baby, and living life to the best possible attitude I have ever seen. She is funny, friendly, responsible, kind, loving, a great mom, has goals, driven.... I cannot say one bad thing about this girl, but I am not 100% sure I am ready for a 2 for 1 special. She is the most beautiful girl I have ever seen and quite frankly she belongs on a magazine cover.
Dad is not a problem and hardly sees the child, and pays maintenance.
Family is not there for her, and this girl could really use a solid man her life. She deserves it.


Girl 2:
27yo, successful, educated, highly paid, health conscious, funny, out going, smart... again, i can say nothing bad about this girl. Not as pretty as the other, but hot nonetheless. Has a great family, great friends, is in a social class beyond me, and definitely beyond Girl 1. She wants a family, wants a supportive man in her life (by support I mean emotional support). She is amazing as well.



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I find my heart pulling me towards girl 1, but with out question, girl 2 is a logical choice. Girl 2 is aggressively pursuing me, but girl 1 and I are really getting close and talking for hours every night
I have not slept with either, and will not just "****" them both, especially girl 1, as she is too special to take advantage of.
Girl 2 will not be high maintenance I feel, as she has had millionaire (silver spoon) boyfriend that she dumped 6 months ago as he did not emotionally support her. That means a lot to me. She gave up a life of luxury for a logical choice in happiness. Not many girls can and would do that.
Girl 1, is so kind and means so well, and has captured my heart in that regard. I do not know though if I am feeling sympathy for her.....

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[#8]

Dude, that is a serious dilemma for sure. If im not mistaken you are in your thirties right? I think the logical choice is to with girl 2. Both sound amazing but girl 2 is a little closer in maturity to you despite girl one being an old soul. Girl 1 also has so much life experience to learn and a LOT of time to meet someone that can make her happy and take care of her. The only doubt you mentioned about girl 2 is that you really like girl 1. Its a tough call but its a good tough call to have to make.

Bottom line from me, go with girl 2.

[natenator]

do you need to make a choice just yet?

Just as the friends stage still right?

See how it unfolds.

As for girl #1... ask her about the idea of a relationship and lay rhe cards on the table, kid, age, etc...See what she has to say. Maybe she isn't looking for the total package just yet?

[Gettin'r'round]

I say #2. She's not into money (big bonus), no kid (sorry but I want my OWN), plus makes her own $. Money is the #1 reason for divorce.

Logically #2.

[gsxr750]

Tough choice man.. i'll say this though. As great as the 20 year old sounds and how well she's done for herself, she's still young. Who's to say she knows what she wants out of her life..

Ultimately the decision is yours, just follow your heart..

[Big D]

I cant believe girls like you.

















jk

i would do what nate said.

[Gettin'r'round]

As for girl #1... ask her about the idea of a relationship and lay rhe cards on the table, kid, age, etc...See what she has to say. Maybe she isn't looking for the total package just yet?

Problem is she has no family which means she's looking to make one, and who would blame her? The kid thing though....Tough and if you become daddy then until 18 it's your responsibility.

[Durk]

I would just do em both. Its not cheating if you arent dating. Would you buy a car without a test drive? lol

[cdnsoldier]

Girl #1 all the way. You have an emotional connection. Who cares about social class when you have that bond where you can talk for hours. She has shown she is loyal and tough via her decisions with her child. Sometimes family around is good, sometimes not so good. In fact my divorce was mostly because my ex's family . So you become her family and enjoy that loyality.


Girl#2 sounds like my ex-wife. On paper she looks good and hey, she's a step up in social class. But you';; find she's a ****, her friends and family are fake and full of shit and you'll be wanting to smash their faces in everytime you meet them. At one time her friends and family seemed cool but when their true colors were shown- it was all a show.

When it comes to love it's the one time you go with your heart and not your head. I learned this the hard way.

[gsxr750]

Set the 20 year old up with the 27 year olds millionaire ex, and keep the 27 year old. 20 year old gets what she needs, ex gets what he wants, you get what you want.

[natenator]

Problem is she has no family which means she's looking to make one, and who would blame her? The kid thing though....Tough and if you become daddy then until 18 it's your responsibility.
Nah. I disagree for that as a reason. She's 20 and if she is as mature as Wade says she probably recognizes that she still has many years of living to do and therefore might just not be interested/ready for the real deal... yet?

[waderow]

Dude, that is a serious dilemma for sure. If im not mistaken you are in your thirties right? I think the logical choice is to with girl 2. Both sound amazing but girl 2 is a little closer in maturity to you despite girl one being an old soul. Girl 1 also has so much life experience to learn and a LOT of time to meet someone that can make her happy and take care of her. The only doubt you mentioned about girl 2 is that you really like girl 1. Its a tough call but its a good tough call to have to make.

Bottom line from me, go with girl 2.

Solid advice..... but funny how I was hoping deep down you would say go for #1 Its perplexing me




do you need to make a choice just yet?

Just as the friends stage still right?

See how it unfolds.

As for girl #1... ask her about the idea of a relationship and lay rhe cards on the table, kid, age, etc...See what she has to say. Maybe she isn't looking for the total package just yet?

just friends stage. but we have talked about relationship things, and getting serious. She wants more kids, marriage, the whole thing. We are one the same page.

[Durk]

Nah. I disagree for that as a reason. She's 20 and if she is as mature as Wade says she probably recognizes that she still has many years of living to do and therefore might just not be interested/ready for the real deal... yet?

Also her kid could be a little hell spawn. I work with kids, and I am honestly considering a vesectomy after working a year in a group home.

[Gettin'r'round]

Nah. I disagree for that as a reason. She's 20 and if she is as mature as Wade says she probably recognizes that she still has many years of living to do and therefore might just not be interested/ready for the real deal... yet?

While she is 20, her life experience puts her closer to 30 no? I was extremely mature for my age. I was on 2 mortgages when I was 20 plus other stuff. So when I was 26 I was dating a hot 39yr old uber cougar. Then 1 yr later we were married and 2 weeks after our son was born. No messing around here.

[Gettin'r'round]

Also her kid could be a little hell spawn. I work with kids, and I am honestly considering a vesectomy after working a year in a group home.

Kids are tough but rewarding. Nothing in life is easy. BTW I did get the snip after just the one though....

[waderow]

yeah, it is a tough one. I am going to have to take time with this.
I would hate myself if I hurt the 20yo though. She is not a fragile little emotional wreck or anything, but she just doesnt need some guy ****ing her around.

[waderow]

While she is 20, her life experience puts her closer to 30 no? I was extremely mature for my age. I was on 2 mortgages when I was 20 plus other stuff. So when I was 26 I was dating a hot 39yr old uber cougar. Then 1 yr later we were married and 2 weeks after our son was born. No messing around here.

I was responsible at age 20, but not that mature... This girl is both.

[waderow]

Girl #1 all the way. You have an emotional connection. Who cares about social class when you have that bond where you can talk for hours. She has shown she is loyal and tough via her decisions with her child. Sometimes family around is good, sometimes not so good. In fact my divorce was mostly because my ex's family . So you become her family and enjoy that loyality.


Girl#2 sounds like my ex-wife. On paper she looks good and hey, she's a step up in social class. But you';; find she's a ****, her friends and family are fake and full of shit and you'll be wanting to smash their faces in everytime you meet them. At one time her friends and family seemed cool but when their true colors were shown- it was all a show.

When it comes to love it's the one time you go with your heart and not your head. I learned this the hard way.


I do think a person has to follow their heart

[kyle]

I would lean more towards #1 sounds like there will be a deeper connection going on. But it depends if shes ready for a relationship because once you get involved for a year or so and leave it would really turn her life upside down.

#2 I would be careful about the not caring about money shit. I've heard that one before. Its like crack once there use to the goodlife its just gonna be a matter of time before they want more and arent satisfied with what you can offer.

[Durk]

I do think a person has to follow their heart

homo

[tex]

dont **** with single moms.....only go after her if you are serious.....that child doesnt need man after man coming in and out of its life.....and neither does she......you seem like an alright guy so you need to think it through and do whats best

[waderow]

homo

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[waderow]

dont **** with single moms.....only go after her if you are serious.....that child doesnt need man after man coming in and out of its life.....and neither does she......

I think we have established I have good intentions. I wont **** this girl over... no way

[Gettin'r'round]

#2 I would be careful about the not caring about money shit. I've heard that one before. Its like crack once there use to the goodlife its just gonna be a matter of time before they want more and arent satisfied with what you can offer.

You'll find out when she talks about the size of diamond she wants on the ring. Mine could not care less I spent only $1500. It's not that I could have spent more, there are 10000times better places to put $ (house downpayment being #1).

[Van Zan]

life

[Houstonbc]

After reading all this thread I really like th sounds of girl #1 she sounds like a real sweetheart. Sounds like you are partial to #1 too.

I cant say because obviously i dont know this person but #2 seems like she could be a real piece of work maneater type.

PICS OR GTFO! jk jk

[waderow]

#2 doesnt strike me as a maneater. but you never know. my last gf was a maneater and I didnt realize until I was eaten, but I learned to ask more difficult questions about past relationships, and have asked them. She is okay with commitment, she just seems to want a companion.

and yes, #1 is a sweetheart. Totally makes me melt to talk to her.

[pseclint]

look at the length of your paragraph on girl one vs girl two.... speaks volumes, you know who to pick

[Big D]

which one has bigger boobs ? :p

[Ritch]

which one has bigger boobs ? :p

LOl! Such a tough decision, but I think you need to have sex with both to make proper decision. I know you`re not trying to be a player here, so you have my blessing to do so. I mean what if you just don`t like her smell? I swear I was with a girl once and she had the most fishy smelling pussy ever. She had no std`s, a very clean girl but just couldn`t stand the way she tasted. I`m not trying to sound like sex is everything because one day it will not be so important as now, but it still needs to be considered. So how can you consider it if you don`t do it?

[natenator]

LOl! Such a tough decision, but I think you need to have sex with both to make proper decision. I know you`re not trying to be a player here, so you have my blessing to do so. I mean what if you just don`t like her smell? I swear I was with a girl once and she had the most fishy smelling pussy ever. She had no std`s, a very clean girl but just couldn`t stand the way she tasted. I`m not trying to sound like sex is everything because one day it will not be so important as now, but it still needs to be considered. So how can you consider it if you don`t do it?
couldn't be the thigh sweat from the fact she weighed 300lbs and you loved to watch her gobble down poutine and cheeseburgers? :D

[natenator]

wade: serious answer... find out which one will hoop you and feel perfectly happy and comfortable doing it :D

[Ritch]

couldn't be the thigh sweat from the fact she weighed 300lbs and you loved to watch her gobble down poutine and cheeseburgers? :D

That made me bust out laughing, but she wasen`t fat. She had really big natural boobs though and a fantastick bubly mexican ass. Very lovely woman and it killed me to let her go. She didn`t let me giggle her ass however, I had to sneak in shake here and there. Once when doing doggystyle, she said to me as she was getting on all four not to giggle her ass! So I pounded it instead... Sorry back on topic here.

[warlock]

Age doesn't mean much (My partner and I are 16 years apart).

Any relationship involves risk at both sides, that's the nature of being with someone else.

Are you sure that you are not caught by the #1 looks?
To be honest with you I'd have sex with #1 if that worked well (and it should be magic off the bat considering the way you talk about her) I'd just move on to make that turn into a relationship.

As for #2 I like her attitude she know what she wants and she goes for it. There's no real way to know what she is made of unless in a real relationship with her.

Good luck

[Big D]

LOl! Such a tough decision, but I think you need to have sex with both to make proper decision. I know you`re not trying to be a player here, so you have my blessing to do so. I mean what if you just don`t like her smell? I swear I was with a girl once and she had the most fishy smelling pussy ever. She had no std`s, a very clean girl but just couldn`t stand the way she tasted. I`m not trying to sound like sex is everything because one day it will not be so important as now, but it still needs to be considered. So how can you consider it if you don`t do it?

ahhahaha dude thats because she was whipping back to front.

[wmk]

Nothing wrong with a girl with kid if you love her. She sounds very humble, which I like. Also if you are in your 30's think about it, she will still be hot for at least 15 more years. The 27 year old is 7 years older and she will age a lot sooner. I guess I'd only look at that if looks are that important to you.

Are they both faithful types?

[Ritch]

ahhahaha dude thats because she was whipping back to front.

She smelled like a can of tuna, no joke. Once when she went to go pee I sniffed her panties that were on the floor and I swear it was like they were marinated in fish juice.

[gsxr750]

Learned this from someone at MN:

How to tell if her vag smells like tuna without having to take her pants off? Make out with her, finger her, rub her tits with that hand, and smell your hand while its on her boobs while you suck on them. Not so obvious, and you can find out if you need to develop a sudden case of diarrhea.

[Ritch]

Learned this from someone at MN:

How to tell if her vag smells like tuna without having to take her pants off? Make out with her, finger her, rub her tits with that hand, and smell your hand while its on her boobs while you suck on them. Not so obvious, and you can find out if you need to develop a sudden case of diarrhea.

Funny you mention that because she always did that to herself, so whether I`d be eating pussy, or playing with her big boobies I always had that smell...

[waderow]

Nothing wrong with a girl with kid if you love her. She sounds very humble, which I like. Also if you are in your 30's think about it, she will still be hot for at least 15 more years. The 27 year old is 7 years older and she will age a lot sooner. I guess I'd only look at that if looks are that important to you.

Are they both faithful types?

I have no concerns about faithfulness from these two. In fact, the 20yo doesnt drink. Big bonus. The 27yo is a straight shooting professional. I just cant see it.

[waderow]

She smelled like a can of tuna, no joke. Once when she went to go pee I sniffed her panties that were on the floor and I swear it was like they were marinated in fish juice.

jesus

[waderow]

Age doesn't mean much (My partner and I are 16 years apart).

Any relationship involves risk at both sides, that's the nature of being with someone else.

Are you sure that you are not caught by the #1 looks?
To be honest with you I'd have sex with #1 if that worked well (and it should be magic off the bat considering the way you talk about her) I'd just move on to make that turn into a relationship.

As for #2 I like her attitude she know what she wants and she goes for it. There's no real way to know what she is made of unless in a real relationship with her.

Good luck

#1's looks play a part no doubt as she is the most beautiful girl. But what really draws me is her strength, attitude, love for her child, kind heart, and our ability to just talk and talk for hours.

My only concern is that I may be leaning her way out of some form of wanting to rescue her or something. She has had a miserable life, but you would never know it from her attitude. Her family is trash.

[warlock]

#1's looks play a part no doubt as she is the most beautiful girl. But what really draws me is her strength, attitude, love for her child, kind heart, and our ability to just talk and talk for hours.

My only concern is that I may be leaning her way out of some form of wanting to rescue her or something. She has had a miserable life, but you would never know it from her attitude. Her family is trash.

That's exactly why in any relationship we have to go slow in the beginning.

Give time to time and see where it goes keep expectations low and don't make long term plans, just go with the flow. If this is the right girl and you are with each other for the right reasons in one year both of you will have enough clues about what's next.

I see a lot of couples destroying their relationships because they don't give enough time to time, don't develop a friendship and want too much too soon.

[Gettin'r'round]

I knew my wife for 6 years before she got divorced. We dated for a short time then broke up. She was still a mess from the divorce and I was kinda freaked about dating someone 15yrs my senior. Still we got together a year after and the rest is history.

Things work out the way they should and shit happens for a reason. Don't over think things and just go with it.

[Houstonbc]

I think you should make a date with each girl take each one out for the night dinner/drinks or something and that should let you know who you're going to be more compatible with.

[waderow]

I think you should make a date with each girl take each one out for the night dinner/drinks or something and that should let you know who you're going to be more compatible with.

I have, and I could easily be with either.

It is tough.

I think if I ask the question: Which one will appreciate me more? It is the young single mom. The other girl is a great catch, and is out going, and will find a man who will be wonderful without question. the young single mom will constantly get ****ed around and ****ed around and used and used. Men are ****ing swine sometimes. I would treat her with respect and shower her with love. I was not looking for a girl with a child... not at all, but I can adapt. It may be a small price to pay for a lifetime of love and happiness.

I just started back up the test prop after a 6 day outage, so I am going to let it kick in a bit though... make sure the estrogen isnt ****ing with me.....

[natenator]

SO! curious how this is going???

[waderow]

I am getting pretty close with the single mom, and the other one just returned from a trip to Nashville and expects to see me Friday.

I am going over tomorrow night to meet the kid, and spend some alone time together with single mom.

So this week I will have to make a decision.

[natenator]

she expects to see you friday? lmao

[waderow]

last I spoke with her before she left, she said keep your friday the 22nd open. She is an assertive girl. :)

[alteredbeast]

You need to make a move on one or both of these women soon, or we'll be reading your next thread, "how i blew it with two hotties"

Whoever said have sex with one or both was right on point. And you should do it pronto.

[Gib]

Id have sex with both...seperatly of course (unless you can pull the threesome).

If they are both great catches, then your sex life with them may be what settles it.

Other than that, ask yourself which one would be a better mother for your children. You never know when one may get past the goalie, so consider which one would be the better mother for your offspring...