recovering for deca, 8 months ago

[pblade]

i ended a deca only cycle 8 months ago which was stupid though i was misinformed by an individual. however i want to run another pct now, my levels are currently 350ng/dl after recovering naturally because two endocrinologists told me not to take anything and i listened, my pct at the time was nolva only. though i couldn't handle it the whole time, even till now i want things to go back to normal again. i am not as social as i was before, though i am gaining muscle, but i want my mental state to come back to how it was before cycle. i currently have nolvadex/hcg/clomid with me, though would that be a good pct or since my levels are already 350ngdl hcg will not do any good because it only mimics lh?

[deleteduser0001]

I would just wait it out, if its been 8 months, a few more can't hurt but ****ing with drugs and against a doctors wishes, can.

[pblade]

they said to recover naturally, because both endos that i was sent to were not very fond of young individuals on steroids, currently 21 years old. i am surprised the 8 months have passed, though they were not very enjoyable as to why i was hoping there might be a chance i can do something now to speed up recovery after all this long.

[Sean]

How long where you on Deca (including dose)? Did you use HCG for your 1st PCT? How long did you run the Nolva? 8 months seems like a really long ass time and still not recovered..

[pblade]

i ran deca for 10 weeks, 500mg week and at the time only ran nolvadex as a pct, i did not know anything. 10/10/10/20 and i did not use hcg, and indeed 8 months is a very long time, but like people say deca shuts you down hard and i find that to be very true. i don't feel the "same" as i did before cycle to this date, there seems to be something missing. i used to be a very joyful person before touching deca, i wanted to spark conversations with everyone. now i have lost a lot of confidence in myself.

[4031]

maybe try some natural test booster,like vitrix or tribulus

[nitrous]

agreed to adding in tribulus.. many say it does nothing.. i cant tell either but it definitely makes my money shots bigger so thats gotta mean it does somethin..

other than that i would listen to the endo's.. if you are sick of waiting perhaps talk to them again to see what they say

[Iwant2Grow]

bump for the trib - when i use 3grams per day or more my body seems to respond (nuts grow) and i seem to have a happier mind set

[Sean]

Yeah stick with the Endo! Then get checked out again in a months time. For what it's worth my first cycle was Sus and I didn't do any PCT and I shut down really hard (Couldn't get it up, and when I could, it wasn't as hard). That lasted me 6 months until everything came back slowly. But go get a second opinion if you're not satisfied with this guy. Proper PCT is a MUST!! I take it this is your first cycle? If it is your friend should get an upper cut upside the head for giving you shitty advice. First cycles are awesome, but you should of started with Test and worked from there, to see how your body responds to certain compounds.

[pblade]

yea i agree with you, i kept on mentioning test to him though he said i should stick with this. and i would always worry though i stayed with it, and it didnt end out well in the end. i am still yet to try a test cycle, which i hope is much better than deca only. is there a bigger difference with a test only cycle then deca only with the way you feel mentally?

so would you say ill try a high dose of tribulus, or run the pct of clomid/nolva possibly including hcg? i have already gone to two endos that werent fond of me on steroids, and i had to wait 2 months for appointment so i don't want to make another appointment

[tex]

yea i agree with you, i kept on mentioning test to him though he said i should stick with this. and i would always worry though i stayed with it, and it didnt end out well in the end. i am still yet to try a test cycle, which i hope is much better than deca only. is there a bigger difference with a test only cycle then deca only with the way you feel mentally?

so would you say ill try a high dose of tribulus, or run the pct of clomid/nolva possibly including hcg? i have already gone to two endos that werent fond of me on steroids, and i had to wait 2 months for appointment so i don't want to make another appointment

HUGE difference between deca only and a test cycle.......you will love it.......if you have a doc tell you to do something id follow the advice but i would venture that a good run of hcg, clomid and aromasin would give your nuts some swagger......again.....do what that doctors say...they went to med school and we did not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BAM]

Did you us HG Nolva or a UG version?

[pblade]

HG nolva

[kyle]

hopefully you fully recover. I would listen to the docs and see how you feel in another month. Threads like this scare me from using deca even though I would really like to try it oneday.

[pw154]

I don't know why you wouldn't run another proper PCT..... it might make a world of a difference. If I were you I'd try using aromasin at 25mg/ed along with nolvadex at 20mg ed for a month and re-evaluate how you feel. I have low test levels naturally (maybe from running a deca only cycle without proper recovery when i was 20 and stupid, im 27 now) so I know how shitty low test can feel. aromasin/nolva worked very well for me

[pblade]

how are you feeling now pw154 after the deca only?

so guys i feel like running a pct because truly i want my life back in order... i am wondering is using hcg now a bad idea because it will only mimic lh. shall i only use a clomid/nolva combo? any opinions?

[Benny62]

Dude some doctors are fuct. My bro started to get gyno and a doctor told him to just stop everything he was injecting and let his body balance!!! I gave hime my nolva and his tits went away and he finished his cycle and pct. imagine if he listened to the doctor his Moobs would be pretty sweet right now i bet!

[canadianmuscle0803]

wow your still shut down after 8 months off? that's not a good sign for future AAS use, i was recently on a 2 year cycle and it only took me 6 to 8 weeks to come back to normal.. i think you were a bit too young to be doing AAS in the first place and as you said Deca only cycle is not really a good idea.. i would go on clomid therapy if i were you.

[canadianmuscle0803]

how are you feeling now pw154 after the deca only?

so guys i feel like running a pct because truly i want my life back in order... i am wondering is using hcg now a bad idea because it will only mimic lh. shall i only use a clomid/nolva combo? any opinions?

get some aromasin, and then use aromasin and clomid for 4 weeks, 1 tab of aromasin a day, 100mg clomid a day for 2 weeks, 50 mg clomid for last 2 weeks, aromasin all the way through.. i dont like using nolvadex in combination with clomid personally, if i use nolva for pct i use it alone,, just my opinion from lots of experience but everyone is different.. i think taking HCG right now is not a great idea.

[pw154]

how are you feeling now pw154 after the deca only?I am recovered now. This was 7 years ago. However now my test naturally is in the lower end of normal range. Whether that's because of the deca or just my shitty genetics is debatable.