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hyperlite32
07-05-2009, 08:22 PM
Just looking for some personal experience's that people have had using T3.

How did YOU run it? Dose, length, taper, effects, sides ect...

rickyboy36
07-05-2009, 08:35 PM
Just looking for some personal experience's that people have had using T3.

How did YOU run it? Dose, length, taper, effects, sides ect...

The way i ran the two times i did it was a slow ramp up..then a slow ramp down for no longer than 4 weeks about.I did this:

25,25,25,25,50,50,50,50,75,75,75,75,100,100,75,75, 75,75,50,50,50,50,25,25,25
25

The ramping down like that helps with the unwanted rebound effect when you come off.Remember though to take it on an empty stomach(i was advised to do this by someone with alot of expeirience with this) and seperate the doses in sets of 25 during the day

As for sides i really didnt feel much except for some heat.Its a good time of the year now to do it.I would do this in the middle of summer unless you have airconditioning near you all the time..heheh

waderow
07-05-2009, 11:34 PM
I agree with the empty stomach, but the only time mine is empty is AM.
I wake, take T3, then HGH, then eat 30 min later. The whole dose in AM.

Ramp up, and then ramp down, then take a long break.

rickyboy36
07-05-2009, 11:52 PM
I agree with the empty stomach, but the only time mine is empty is AM.
I wake, take T3, then HGH, then eat 30 min later. The whole dose in AM.

Ramp up, and then ramp down, then take a long break.

I agree.Unless your meals are seperated far apart,I would do what waderow suggested.I didnt take into consideration i was eating only 4 meals back then

Benny62
08-05-2009, 04:22 AM
I agree with the empty stomach, but the only time mine is empty is AM.
I wake, take T3, then HGH, then eat 30 min later. The whole dose in AM.

Ramp up, and then ramp down, then take a long break.

I agree with this

Praetorian
08-05-2009, 09:38 AM
You can take T3 with or without food...empty stomach is probably best for absorption...avoid taking it with fibre. When taking higher doses it is best to split the does up throughout the day. Normally with clients I would recommend starting at 25mcg ED and increasing the dose by 12.5 mcg every two weeks until hitting approx 75mcg max. When tapering immediately drop to 25mcg ED for a week, then 12.5 mcg ED for a week then 12.5 mcg EOD for a week then done.
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ironwill
08-05-2009, 09:41 AM
You can take T3 with or without food...empty stomach is probably best for absorption...avoid taking it with fibre. When taking higher doses it is best to split the does up throughout the day. Normally with clients I would recommend starting at 25mcg ED and increasing the dose by 12.5 mcg every two weeks until hitting approx 75mcg max. When tapering immediately drop to 25mcg ED for a week, then 12.5 mcg ED for a week then 12.5 mcg EOD for a week then done.
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glad to seee you posting again P, great info as always...

phatkid77
08-05-2009, 03:20 PM
I'm thinking....why come off....lol

Phats

td1111
09-05-2009, 03:08 AM
How well does T3 work on a Keto diet? Is muscle loss still a concern? I don't seem to lose any muscle on a Keto diet, but woud like to move along a little faster.

Praetorian
09-05-2009, 09:52 AM
How well does T3 work on a Keto diet? Is muscle loss still a concern? I don't seem to lose any muscle on a Keto diet, but woud like to move along a little faster.

It works great on a keto diet...but I would never use it alone....you should always have some sort of support such as aas or clen and GH etc to maintain muscle. Remember T3 burns calories indescriminately.
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Socially_Inept
09-05-2009, 09:03 PM
i tend to use a low dose in the range of 12.5mcg to 25mcg/day for however long i feel, no pyramidding or anything. the cost/benefit of high dose t3 cycles arent worth it for me, i just use it to get the last couple lbs off

aky
11-05-2009, 08:00 PM
You can take T3 with or without food...empty stomach is probably best for absorption...avoid taking it with fibre. When taking higher doses it is best to split the does up throughout the day. Normally with clients I would recommend starting at 25mcg ED and increasing the dose by 12.5 mcg every two weeks until hitting approx 75mcg max. When tapering immediately drop to 25mcg ED for a week, then 12.5 mcg ED for a week then 12.5 mcg EOD for a week then done.
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wk1-2 ---25mcg-350
wk2-4 ---37.5mcg-525
wk4-6 ---50mcg-700
wk6-8 ---62.5mcg-875
wk8-? ---75mcg-1050

so 8+ wks, that isnt too long?

thanks.

hyperlite32
11-05-2009, 09:27 PM
Hijackrrrr.....

aky
12-05-2009, 01:27 AM
lol, oh sorry. im just replying to another reply. if anyone minds i can make another thread but im sure my questions would also relate to the OP.

hyperlite32
12-05-2009, 10:39 AM
I was just kidding....

Anyone got a answer ?

iluxa
13-05-2009, 01:48 AM
I hear that gear is mandatory when running T3 to prevent muscle loss. What about calories higher calories than usual I assume to prevent muscle loss. Does anybody know any T3 nightmare stories? Lots of trainers don't recommend running T3, as you can **** yourself up real bad.

hyperlite32
13-05-2009, 10:23 AM
I disagree with yourt "trainers" opinions. Broscience is not reliable. Do some more reading on T3 and how it is run, the effects, the sides, and the reasons to use an anti-catabolic. there is a TON of info out there...

iluxa
14-05-2009, 06:36 PM
Whats broscience what you telling me is broscience
hahaha internet info hahaha good luck relying on that you don't know who the actual person behind the screen providing this info can you show me links to any valid scientific studies not some self pronounced steroid gurus opinions

wmk
14-05-2009, 06:59 PM
How well does T3 work on a Keto diet? Is muscle loss still a concern? I don't seem to lose any muscle on a Keto diet, but woud like to move along a little faster.

I read an article that when on a keto diet, T3 becomes deactivated as a defense mechanism in your body. I bought liquid T3 from a very good lab and for the 3 weeks that I used it, I went up to 175mcg and didn't feel anything. I had lab tests done back in February before using is and my TSH levels were at 2.86. After the 3 weeks of using it and not feeling anything on it at 175mcg I thought maybe this stuff I bought was bunk. So I went in and had my TSH levels checked again and it was at 2.92. I was doing a keto diet and training like a mad man. So I stopped taking it. After a few more weeks I finished my keto diet and then tried the same T3 from the same lab to see if the Keto diet was the culprit or to see if I had bad liquid T3. I started to sweat like crazy unlike before and had to sleep with a fan on me all night. I could feel heat coming of my face like crazy. I went in for another T3 blood test after 2 weeks of being on it while on a regular diet and my TSH dropped to 0.64. So I think Keto diets definitely interfere with T3 and that the article i read before was right about it as I got the blood work done that proved it.

hyperlite32
14-05-2009, 09:54 PM
Good stuff wmk461

rickyboy36
14-05-2009, 10:07 PM
I disagree with yourt "trainers" opinions. Broscience is not reliable. Do some more reading on T3 and how it is run, the effects, the sides, and the reasons to use an anti-catabolic. there is a TON of info out there...

Hey hyper,i do agree with you that the sides and stuff arent that bad,and the dangers are minimul.There have been studies where people had been shutdown for 20yrs STRAIGHT.. and when they came off strarted right back up again normally after a few weeks or so.Of course people here are going to ask me for those studies--i did see them--but its up to you to go get them and do your own research.Im doing my part in typing this post out.But please dont take my word for it,whoever does want to take this do the research first

Where i do disagree with the above post,is where you says its anti catabolic.The answer is SOMETIMES.You cannot run this stuff too high(more than 100mgs...and even 100 mgs can be a little much.Thats why i dont stay on more than 2 days) because T3 doesnt distinguish between different source calories.In other words in can sometimes burn carbs,sometimes burn fats and if the conditions are good enough even proteins as fuel.It is better to run some AAS with this in order for this not to happen.

hyperlite32
15-05-2009, 10:28 AM
Hey hyper,i do agree with you that the sides and stuff arent that bad,and the dangers are minimul.There have been studies where people had been shutdown for 20yrs STRAIGHT.. and when they came off strarted right back up again normally after a few weeks or so.Of course people here are going to ask me for those studies--i did see them--but its up to you to go get them and do your own research.Im doing my part in typing this post out.But please dont take my word for it,whoever does want to take this do the research first

Where i do disagree with the above post,is where you says its anti catabolic.The answer is SOMETIMES.You cannot run this stuff too high(more than 100mgs...and even 100 mgs can be a little much.Thats why i dont stay on more than 2 days) because T3 doesnt distinguish between different source calories.In other words in can sometimes burn carbs,sometimes burn fats and if the conditions are good enough even proteins as fuel.It is better to run some AAS with this in order for this not to happen.


If you read the post you quote me on, it says "AN anti-catabolic" I was not saying that T3 is anti-catabolic. I was saying the use of AN anticatabolic is usually used such as AAS, Clen, HGH,IGH-1 ect...

I also have read the study that you mentioned about no ill effects after people being wrongly perscribed T3 for a VERY long time. The studies showed that these peoples thyriod started back up with no problems one the perscribed T3 was stopped!

Benny62
15-05-2009, 11:01 AM
This was a recent article I found on the advantages of T3, I am starting to read this more often, thyroid bounces back quite quickly after therapy.

Advantages of Cytomel therapy

With AAS use, the suppression occurs even after the therapy is stopped, sometimes in periods of weeks or months (especially in cases of long-term use). The same thing is observed during insulin intake, whereby the pancreas (the organ responsible for insulin production) ceases its production of insulin. Such is not the case with exogenous T3 hormone therapy. Several studies have concluded that thyroid therapy does not cause prolonged suppression of thyroid normal production. Thyroid function is normalized just days after medication is discontinued. In other words, there is no thyroid shutdown due to T3 supplementation; there is only a down-regulation of thyroid output during therapy.

rickyboy36
15-05-2009, 11:14 AM
If you read the post you quote me on, it says "AN anti-catabolic" I was not saying that T3 is anti-catabolic. I was saying the use of AN anticatabolic is usually used such as AAS, Clen, HGH,IGH-1 ect...

I also have read the study that you mentioned about no ill effects after people being wrongly perscribed T3 for a VERY long time. The studies showed that these peoples thyriod started back up with no problems one the perscribed T3 was stopped!


Your right bro,sorry about that.You did say it right.I actually did read your post correctly,i think when i said "you" i really meant to say it to the guy you were posting to.heheh..shit happens..lol

hyperlite32
15-05-2009, 07:01 PM
I gotcha...