Reaction to gear

[Simple]

Hey fellas, sorry to come off on my first post as it may sound like complaining. However, I am creating this thread because I know SA products are reviewed on this board alot. Just to add I have done 6-7 cycles in the past and have experienced this redness before, but not to the extent.

I am running SA prop, npp and test e

I have been on for around 13 days now. Shots EOD with NPP and prop, and test e twice a week.

I have been getting very painful reactions to this gear. Alot of hard, sore, redened areas that go around the shot. And it takes many days for these to clear. I have heard that some may be allergic to EO and it also might be from the high dosing of BA and BB to hold the high concentrations of hormone that SA use.

Prop = 200
NPP = 200
Test = 300

My first shot was in my right glute and the pain from that shot is just clearing now at 13 days later...Both my delts right now are redened, sore and hard.

My plan is to seperate the shots over the next few days and find the culprit thats giving my trouble and im hoping that it's only just one.

Few questions.

Has anyone else experienced this with these products?
Which of these products use EO? prop? NPP?
What BA and BB concentrations are used in these products?

Thanks for your time

[tex]

sa has recently switched most products back over from eo......you are running higher concentation gear so redness, pain, swelling are all to be expected to some extent depending on your sensitivity. i have run sa primobolan, test no-ester and never had a painful shot....in fact I shot 2.5 ml's of the primo this morning with no prob......are you warming it before you pin it?? also, try having a bath..........if you ask nice you could probably get dk716 to massage your ass in the tub ;)

[Simple]

Warming it before injecting? I am not feeling pain when injecting it though. It's the aftermath of the shot; when it settles into the area it goes to work.

[rickyboy36]

Warming it before injecting? I am not feeling pain when injecting it though. It's the aftermath of the shot; when it settles into the area it goes to work.


There are many things you can do.You can either warm the syringue or warm the vial.If you warm the vial..make sure you put a pin in it so you have some kind of vent hole.If you knew a bit about homebrewing,you could of added in a calculated way some sterile and filterd grapessed oil to make the product thinner.You could also use less juice when you shoot,but add in different muscles.Traps,chest,claves,lats are fun.

[toynut]

I get the same reaction form sa prop or masteron,
only way i can use it is by diluting it with sterile oil from canadianmedsupplies

if i don't, for example, after a delt shot i would turn red down to my elbow...

[Simple]

There are many things you can do.You can either warm the syringue or warm the vial.If you warm the vial..make sure you put a pin in it so you have some kind of vent hole.If you knew a bit about homebrewing,you could of added in a calculated way some sterile and filterd grapessed oil to make the product thinner.You could also use less juice when you shoot,but add in different muscles.Traps,chest,claves,lats are fun.

I understand how the procedure works to heat gear. What im saying is that it will not help in my case as im not having pain from injection, but pain and redness the next days after the shot. Heated or not heated, the same compound is in my muscle and will react the same.

I understand much about homebrewing but do not have the supplies now. I am looking into getting some, but may just drop the prop if its the one doing this. And I am only injecting 1cc into each muscle group and rotating alot.

Can someone fill me in if the NPP, prop, or test E is made with EO? and at what concentrations the BA and BB is?

[sierra1]

It's the T300. That stuff is brutal.

[gustavo77]

It's the T300. That stuff is brutal.

Depends on the person...i found it painless. The test P 200 though..that's another story...i am sensitive to prop though.

[tex]

I understand how the procedure works to heat gear. What im saying is that it will not help in my case as im not having pain from injection, but pain and redness the next days after the shot. Heated or not heated, the same compound is in my muscle and will react the same.

I understand much about homebrewing but do not have the supplies now. I am looking into getting some, but may just drop the prop if its the one doing this. And I am only injecting 1cc into each muscle group and rotating alot.

Can someone fill me in if the NPP, prop, or test E is made with EO? and at what concentrations the BA and BB is? well my friend...heating gear will help you as it helps the oil absorb faster!!

[giannos]

Doesn't SA still use EO in their Prop ? I'd wager you are allergic to EO, its very common