1st cycle advice needed

[rob66679]

Hi all


After much research, I am going to try a test e cycle. My biggest question right now is should I frontload with dbol, or taper off with winny. Or both?
I plan on running with 500 a week test E, so is adding compounds to much at this point being my first real cycle and all? I took some PH back in the day, but I know theres no comparison.
Right now I am planning on Nolva PCT with arimidex on hand just in case. If I added dbol would HGC become neccessary? Although everybody seems to have a personal preference regarding PCT, most sources seem to say that a strait test e cycle at 500/week doesn't require HGC.

Anyway, any feedback is greatly appreciated.

[meathead]

Why not run just the test by it self?

If its your first cycle you will get great gains from the test E alone and not stress the liver so much with the orals.

Save them for future cycles when your more experienced.

Yes, you still need to do PCT after a 500mg test E /week cycle

As far as HCG different people use it different ways.

IMO 500 mg of test will shut you down anyways so you will need to use some HCG regardless.

Hope this helps :)

[tex]

test only....you don't "need" hcg but it helps.....standard pct protocol should be followed ( nolva or clomid + aromasin and hcg if you like)

[rickyboy36]

test only....you don't "need" hcg but it helps.....standard pct protocol should be followed ( nolva or clomid + aromasin and hcg if you like)

agreed!!

[Danger]

On my 6th week on a 500mg/week Test E cycle and I did 30mg/day Dbol weeks 2-3 and 40mg/day weeks 4-5 and have only had great results so far.

The dbol adds water but the strength gains are pretty amazing, seems like I am really starting to feel the test now but I am glad I did the dbol, loved the awesome pumps and at the doses I took I did not get much bloating or back pain.

I have Adex but have not needed it so far and I doubt I will but its always better to be safe than sorry when it comes to that type of thing, best of luck bro.

[rob66679]

Thanks guys.

You're right.
I think I'll play it safe and just go with the test E, see how this goes and maybe next time I'll add something. This cycle will give me a chance to see how I respond to test only.

Do you guys think that 10 weeks at 500 is sufficent? Some say it takes 5-6 weeks just to kick in..... do you think 12 weeks might be pushing it?

Thanks to all who responded, much appreciated.

[meathead]

My first cycle was 500mg test E (ICN'S) for 12 weeks. It was awesome.

I started to gain weight after about 3 weeks. Put on around 18-20lbs total.

I ran Nolva, clomid, and HCG for PCT and kept about 10 lbs of solid muscle.

IMO... I think your smart to just use one compound for your first cycle.

Less chance of sides and really you should do quite well if you train hard and sleep/eat right.

Good luck, keep us posted on how you do :)

[Iwant2Grow]

My first cycle was 500mg test E (ICN'S) for 12 weeks. It was awesome.

I started to gain weight after about 3 weeks. Put on around 18-20lbs total.

I ran Nolva, clomid, and HCG for PCT and kept about 10 lbs of solid muscle.

IMO... I think your smart to just use one compound for your first cycle.

Less chance of sides and really you should do quite well if you train hard and sleep/eat right.

Good luck, keep us posted on how you do :)


sounds good to me ^^

i'm in week 7 now of my first cycle 500mg test e
up 10lbs ....think i'm going to go to week 15 as the best gains come later on ... so i'm told any ways

i really your right about one compound your first time as you will have no idea which compounds is doing what to you unless you begin with a base line ...test ... the build form there

if any thing,just up your test dose if you want to make things interesting after you get used to it ...:a+

i have nova, adex and hcg for pct .... better safe then sorry

just my 2 cents

[tex]

Thanks guys.

You're right.
I think I'll play it safe and just go with the test E, see how this goes and maybe next time I'll add something. This cycle will give me a chance to see how I respond to test only.

Do you guys think that 10 weeks at 500 is sufficent? Some say it takes 5-6 weeks just to kick in..... do you think 12 weeks might be pushing it?

Thanks to all who responded, much appreciated. if you've got the $$ I'd go 16 weeks.....