Summer Cycle Need Advice please!

[Skyblob]

Hey guys, im new in here . Just want to say hello to every1 first ! :P Ok lets start, im running my 2nd cycle. Just a summer cut cycle to loose bf and stay fit. After this im running my 24 weeks in november or december , 6 months pre-contest cycle ... 12 weeks lean bulk and 12 weeks cutting! Ok here are the states : (beware ... im young , but ive made my decision to run AAS)

Age: 18
Height: 5f9
Weight: 230
BF % : 17-18
Experience :
1-14 500mg Test E
4-12 380 mg Deca ( i know i screwed up but ohwell )
12-16 Winstrol 50mg ED
16-18 HCG 2500 ui E4D
16-22 Nolvadex 40/40/20/20/20

Still after this ****ing cycle had libido problems for 1-2 months and now its perfect ! cycle was 5 months ago! ( it ended 5 months ago )

Here is my summer cycle : I dont wanna pin ED

1-8 Test prop 100 EOD
2-8 Tren Ace 80 EOD ( 7 weeks ... not 6 because 8 - 2 = 6 )
PCT:
8-12 Aromasin 25/25/25/25
8-12 Nolvadex 40/40/20/20
8-10 HCG 1000 UI E2D

Ok guys, so i have the choice, of getting my aromasin for pct and incase of bitch tits during cycle .. iknow during cycle its better Arimidex but im getting aromasin... but i have the choice of aromasin , or t3... what would you get?
here how i would run t3 :
2-8 25mcg ED

which compound would you get ?
Thank you!

[thecivilizedanimal]

good work, and good research,
i personally would agree with most and say you dont need to be cycling, esp at your age.

you could try running proviron during cycle to help as an ai and boost test, i'm thinking about t3 to lean me out as i'll be cutting after but def wouldnt want to run a cycle as long as yours, esp at your age ( i'm 27 now )

you seem to have a pretty good grasp of what you want to do, but as all the other guys will say you're pretty young so its almost a moral dilemma for me to give you advice as it could impair what you plan on doing in the future

[Skyblob]

Thanks buddy, yes indeed i am young for AAS, but , i really want to compete and i know i have the gene's to get far. Before my 1st cycle i was already big, close to what i am now, the last cycle didnt made much for me, diet wasnt in check and i suspect the gear i took to be underdosed ( denkall and QV ) .. after i made my researchs and all i have read on those two labs, it was ****. So now im sticking with SA and At***. But my goal is to go to nationals in 2 years, and win. I want to be pro in my future, ill do everything to be it, its in me, i live for training. I know it might sound stupid, but i have such a big passion for this sport, i'm in love with it and it's my life. I go to school but all the rest of my activities depend's on my training. It's my lifestyle and it's where 90% of my money goes in. All in the food , supplements ( only take protein all rest is bull**** imo ) and for cycles. I dont want to abuse roids and make all my gains because of it. I just want them to help me reach where i want to be, in other words, to surpass or overcome the limits that my body induced me. I might not be at my 100% natural limit, but thats why im not using anymore aas to bulk, i'm trying to gain as much as i can naturally, and when its time to diet and to get shred, i add compounds to keep my muscles.

PS: Sorry if my english is bad, i dont practice it enough lol :P From montreal:p

[tex]

i'll get flamed for this buuuut.....it looks good....dont bother with the t3 yet....the hcg seems dosing seems off but other than that you will be a thick mo'fo by the end of summer......

[Praetorian]

You are way too young to be on AAS period!! You are going to mess up your endocrine system permanently and you will need to be on hrt for the rest of your life. At 18 you have so much naturally produced test you will grow very easily if your training and diet is on. If you have the genetics as you say then you dont need aas at this point.
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[varking]

Also Tren??? second cycle?? Not a good idea dude if you want to do a cutter replace the tren for winny. At your age you dont need tren keep it simple dude...

[ezturbo]

I know your dreaming to be an IFBB pro man, and your taking the steps in the right direction. But I think you might be a bit misguided. I noticed you mentioned nothing of training, or diet, in your cycle idea. GEAR IS NOT THE INSTANT SOLUTION. 25% Training, 25% Nutrition, 25% Determination, 25% Rest.. And MAYBE.. MAYBE.. 10% AAS down the road. Something that someone really wise on these forums beat into my head one day, is that this is a journey, an adventure, and its not worth forcing it overnight. If you want to have an easier life, less health issues, less stress/anxiety, just keep stuffing steaks and shakes down your throat, and I bet you, you will grow more off that alone, then with test. Tren, man do I love it, but you can avoid that little demon for as long as possible. Im young myself, and I decided to juice aswell, and at one point no mother ****er was going to tell me otherwise. But honestly man, open your ears, listen to the boys on these forums, some of them are ****in pros! At 18 your still an arrogant prick, mainly cus your natural test levels are through the roof. Dont **** with a good thing. Wait another couple years, theres no rush. Im glad to see that your past the point of orals, and arent scared of needles, but running tren at this age, you will **** yourself up. Im serious, there is countless dudes who are having trouble growing now AT ALL, without gear. HRT for life? Works for some, but imagine a needle every week of your life. Reconsider your pathway, I mean REALLLLLY reevaluate it. This is your life. Whats the point of living if your a dying peice of shit.

Just the words of a concerned bro.
Good luck brozzz.. Keep safe.

[O-Train]

You plan on winning Nationals at age 20? Post up some pics, I need some training inspiration.

[bigtavi8]

MAN im 20 and i want to be a pro too but i wont sacrifice my health (EVEN NOW AT 20). I know what you feel like. IT ****ing sucks being young man i know what your going through. Everyone is ****ing bigger and on and you want to be part of it because you pay your dues in the gym every ****ing day just like me. I want to get big more than anything id kill for it but after my first comp i realize that it takes years and that no matter what you do there will be someone bigger. But i hope your cycle goes well and you get completly jacked up beyond belief. I just know where your coming from but i still think maybe a few more years like 20 then you'll be at the right stage to get into it hard you know.

[JonnyO]

You are way too young to be on AAS period!! You are going to mess up your endocrine system permanently and you will need to be on hrt for the rest of your life. At 18 you have so much naturally produced test you will grow very easily if your training and diet is on. If you have the genetics as you say then you dont need aas at this point.
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Take his advice! And also know that starting competing at 18 years old and making the National stage in two years time and winning and turning pro you will have to be something very, very special. Sorry to rain on your parade bro but focus on school and get a career first before putting your all into bodybuilding and competing, trust me it will pay off in the end. There's no money in bodybuilding, only self gratification. The sport is expensive and you dont want to live with mommy and daddy when your done school and in your 20's still living in a pipedream.

[Skyblob]

Wow guys thanks for all the advices! I know i didnt talked about training and diet and sleeping, but yes, i give all of those 3 things the most important parts in training. I only take 1 protein shake per day and thats it, all rest is food. Sleeping is 8hours - 12 hours per night and training is 5 times a week no more than 2 hours max, i try to keep it 1hour and half. But no i dont want to be on hrt on the rest of my life. But i dont think this cycle will shut me down for life. Anyways , this cycled is planned to be done and it will be done, but for futher cycles, i will listen to what you guys say. For pictures, sorry bro just got kicked out of home, now i live in residence close from my college and i dont have any cameras or cellphones or w/e. I live with strict minimum lol :P Ill make bloodtests after this cycle! Good luck for me :P 1st adventure with tren! ;)
Ill keep you updated!
Thanks alot everyone!

[thecivilizedanimal]

:P 1st adventure with tren! ;)


you'll enjoy it. good luck to you

[Solo59]

You came for advice, young man. You've received some very good, well-intentioned advice to continue naturally at least until you're into your 20s. No one learns w/o mentors. These guys have been around gear & lifting for a while so are good mentors. Avoid paying the price later. Be wise: listen & learn. And do not use Tren or run long-**** cycles, if you must indulge in chemical enhancement at all.

Solo