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Ritch
29-04-2009, 08:44 PM
Just checking to see if I have this right. If I put 2 ml of bac water in my 5000iu hcg vial, when I pull out 1/10th of a cc I will get 250iu. Correct?
I`ve read many times that the addition of bacterostactic water increases the life span of the hcg. Has anyone used a vial over 10 weeks? Did it still do it`s work at keeping your balls wonderfully huge? Was planning on doing 2 250iu shots a week for the whole cycle (20weeks).
Those against that method, I`m open to hear your protocols. Was thinking of maybe wating 3 weeks, then using a vial over say 7 weeks doing 2 shots of 350 a week, then 3 weeks off and the last 7 weeks of the cycle same as before. Reasoning that the hcg has not expired if pushing it to 10 weeks is too long. Thoughts?
Solo59
29-04-2009, 09:39 PM
Just checking to see if I have this right. If I put 2 ml of bac water in my 5000iu hcg vial, when I pull out 1/10th of a cc I will get 250iu. Correct?
Correct.
I`ve read many times that the addition of bacterostactic water increases the life span of the hcg. Has anyone used a vial over 10 weeks? Did it still do it`s work at keeping your balls wonderfully huge? Was planning on doing 2 250iu shots a week for the whole cycle (20weeks).
Should last 10 weeks with bac water if you keep it chilled, though by the end it will lose some of its strength.
Those against that method, I`m open to hear your protocols. Was thinking of maybe wating 3 weeks, then using a vial over say 7 weeks doing 2 shots of 350 a week, then 3 weeks off and the last 7 weeks of the cycle same as before. Reasoning that the hcg has not expired if pushing it to 10 weeks is too long. Thoughts?
More complex, but I like this better. I usually run 500iu e3d on cycle.
Solo
Ritch
29-04-2009, 10:10 PM
^^^ thanks for the reply. The second HCG protocol came to mind because I`ve read many times shutdown occurs around 3 weeks into a cycle. So the hcg will bring the system back in the 7 weeks of use, then 3 weeks off again where the body will sense destabilization near the 3rd week to go back on then it`s time to cruise for 6 weeks, then pct. Also some recommend to cycle hcg on cycle, this falls into that recommendation.
Basically will be doing Prioner`s test taper method. Which is basically a cruise after the cycle (100mg test week for 6 weeks) tapering down the AI (during the first 3 weeks of the cruise) followed by the tapering of test over another 6 week period with nolvadex, and will be adding aromasin to ensure full recovery. The aromasin is not in his protocol, thought of it myself and figure it can only make things better. Some are saying to wait 2 weeks after the cycle to begin the cruise period to get blood levels down and I think that makes sense and will most likely do that.
Doryphorus
29-04-2009, 11:02 PM
Not trying to hijack or anything, but are you planning on running nolva on cycle in conjunction with your HCG? I ask because from what I've read nolva helps prevent desensitization of the testes to LH (pro for use with HCG) but also may lower IGF-1 (con for use on cycle) and I've wondered about this exact scenario for myself.
Cheers bro,
-D
Ritch
30-04-2009, 09:20 AM
Not trying to hijack or anything, but are you planning on running nolva on cycle in conjunction with your HCG? I ask because from what I've read nolva helps prevent desensitization of the testes to LH (pro for use with HCG) but also may lower IGF-1 (con for use on cycle) and I've wondered about this exact scenario for myself.
Cheers bro,
-D
I`ve read that also. I will be runing arimidex. Most guys here say to start the AI when the symptoms appear. Why use it if you don`t need it? I have no clue if how my body will respond to 500mg of test and 400mg of equipoise a week, and if I will need to run the AI or not, at least I have it on hand. Lot`s of guys here run hcg on cycle on most us an AI, nothing in my memory tells me to run nolvadex. But like you said it`s a pick your poison issue, each has it`s pro`s and con`s.
rickyboy36
30-04-2009, 12:09 PM
Yes..your calculations are good bro.Ill be posting up something shortly to show newbies how to go about reconstituting peptides and other stuff.
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