Disappointed in first cycle

[downtime]

Test cyp for 12 weeks,500 per week (2 250 shots).As it was my first cycle i didnt kick start with anything,took 7 weeks before i felt anything,then i got busy with work and moving so my focus was a little of near the end.I didnt expect to look like ronnie after my frist cycle but i did expect more,their were some gains in size on my traps and forearms .I have been wotking out on and off 7 years and when i take a break i dont loose much in size but i did after the cycle was over?I ran hcg during and nolva after.I did learn how to inject properly,as well as a few others,my body does respond to aas which was one question i was curious about,any suggestions as what i should run second cycle?

[MoooBaby]

If you didn't get results from your first cycle, and it sounds like you got a bit of water weight and lost it, you probably didn't eat or train hard enough. If you didn't lose anything after the cycle then I'd say the gear was bunk. . but that doesn't sound like the case.

Most guys if they bust ass from that as a first cycle will get 20lbs ish. . give or take 10.

[DFA_DFA]

If you didn't get results from your first cycle, and it sounds like you got a bit of water weight and lost it, you probably didn't eat or train hard enough. If you didn't lose anything after the cycle then I'd say the gear was bunk. . but that doesn't sound like the case.

Most guys if they bust ass from that as a first cycle will get 20lbs ish. . give or take 10.

im at +22lbs as of today :)

[Kilburn]

why dont you get your shit sorted out before you mess with gear.

[tex]

^^ lol.....and I agree with Flexy on cycle length.....with a long distance cycle you are able to get more accomplished......

[HeavyD]

This is one of the reasons I've always been an advocate of long(er) cycles..

When you're using long-acting drugs they don't really start to kick for a solid 4-5 weeks.. So you get 6-7 weeks of the fun stuff? Waste of time, IMO.

12 weeks can be beneficial when using fast-acting drugs, but with long-acting esters I don't think they serve much purpose.

x2

i did a simular first cycle,10 wks 500mg testE with dbol at 25mg for 4 wks.
and if it was not for the dbol, there was little growth from the test alone.

i kept most of what i gained, bout 16lbs, but now im on 600/test,400/deca for 20wks, it can just start to feel it, and the best part is i still have a good 3-4 months of gear left, im thinking on upping test to 750, so not sure on overall duration.

[cdnsoldier]

Maybe your gear was bunk. Suprised no one brought that up. TC will put weight on Kiera Knightly so when guys complain about it I always say know your vendor.

[Benny62]

Could have been bunk or underdosed, what did you use?

[rickyboy36]

Most likely your diet...Even if you gear was underdosed it shouldnt of mattered too much seeing htis is you first cycle(unless it was really really underdosed)

As for the lenght of your cycle..12 weeks is fine.You just probably underate.

[kawikaratekid]

I think you answered it for yourself earlier. You didn't train and eat that well at the end. Get focused the next time you do it and you'll reap the results.

[tripleA]

You should make your best gain with the 1st cycle, regardless of diet. My 1st cycle I did 50-100mgs of deca for about 6 weeks, trained as usual with no change in diet and still gained over 10 lbs.
I'd say your stuff was underdosed or you don't react well to cyp.
Did you nuts shrink at all?

[natenator]

You should make your best gain with the 1st cycle, regardless of diet. My 1st cycle I did 50-100mgs of deca for about 6 weeks, trained as usual with no change in diet and still gained over 10 lbs.
I'd say your stuff was underdosed or you don't react well to cyp.
Did you nuts shrink at all?
nut shrinkage is not a good indicator. Mine never shrink.

[rickyboy36]

You should make your best gain with the 1st cycle, regardless of diet. My 1st cycle I did 50-100mgs of deca for about 6 weeks, trained as usual with no change in diet and still gained over 10 lbs.
I'd say your stuff was underdosed or you don't react well to cyp.
Did you nuts shrink at all?

yes your first cycle is best..but diet is still important.maybe if you would of ate well you might of gained 20lbs...Just saying..

[spitfire]

If you're nuts won't shrink on tren you are superman :D

But too many factors to know what went wrong with your cycle. I had great gains my first.

[natenator]

If you're nuts won't shrink on tren you are superman :D

But too many factors to know what went wrong with your cycle. I had great gains my first.
not even on tren. It's weird.

[Mr Ontario]

Didn't the old girlfriend say they were always small to begin with so how would you really know :)


nut shrinkage is not a good indicator. Mine never shrink.

[natenator]

Didn't the old girlfriend say they were always small to begin with so how would you really know :)
may be small but they pack a punch! Peter North would be proud!

[Solo59]

not even on tren. It's weird.

Maybe they were hollow inside.;)

Solo

[spitfire]

haha

[tex]

may be small but they pack a punch! Peter North would be proud!
there you go talking about your wad......be careful cuz you'll get dk or jersey all excited.....

[downtime]

no,my nuts didnt shrink but yes too many factors though.I will be phyically and mentally prepared for my next cycle believe me.

[Ritch]

there you go talking about your wad......be careful cuz you'll get dk or jersey all excited.....

LMAO!!! Someone getting circle jerk flashbacks???

[ironwill]

This is one of the reasons I've always been an advocate of long(er) cycles..

When you're using long-acting drugs they don't really start to kick for a solid 4-5 weeks.. So you get 6-7 weeks of the fun stuff? Waste of time, IMO.

12 weeks can be beneficial when using fast-acting drugs, but with long-acting esters I don't think they serve much purpose.
agreed....

[metalman]

Please heed this advice with a grain of salt as I have yet to do an AAS cycle...

It seems as though you answered your own question when you say you lost focus towards the end of your cycle. I am sure if you post a detailed outline of your training and diet you will get a ton of help. Were you eating well above your maintenance calories during your cycle?

[Ongeau]

so are you disappointed in.
Your gear
Your Commitment
your lack of gains
or the idea that you can't sit on the couch and gain 30lbs without some serious effort.

So let me put things into perspective, I've done lets say 20 cycles since I was 20 years old. and if I do the math and gain 20 lbs per cycle and retain only 10 of those pounds,
starting weight at 20 160 + 20 cyclels at 10 = 360 pounds, Wow! now i'm dissappointed, how come i'm not 360lbs??? somebodies getting an ass kicking...lmao

[tex]

fag gave me neg rep for my comment....man up and put your name when you give neg....