HCG : IM or SUB-Q?

[Drummer]

Wondering if IM would be more effective than SUB-Q? Im getting close to starting my PCT... so maybe ill try IM if its worth it.

[ironwill]

I do IM personally...ive tried both and didnt find a whole bunch of difference either way....both ways i was stimulated and growing and throb sensation within 3-4 days.....im is better for me as it stings less....

[Solo59]

sub q is best for me because it stings less & is easier:)

works both ways

Solo

[Blitz-Test]

Id say do whatever is convient....

If your shooting 1-2 times a week do subq so it last longer hitting it 2-4 times shoot IM for faster absorbtion...

[Mr Ontario]

Whatever will cause less scar tissue :)

[force]

Sub-q is slower to absorb vs IM. this is according to my Endo, who BTW has me going sub Q on TRT.

As per my TRT protocol I shoot 500IU MON/TUE then do my test shot WED.

If I use HCG on cycle (to avoid excessive atrophy) I tend to go IM mon,wed,fri but only use 250IU each time.

Thats my .02

F.

[St]

All i do is Sub Q now.

[TapOut]

i would do IM, tried sub-q and found it more painful in my experience! either way intervet solution stings like a SOB!

[St]

i would do IM, tried sub-q and found it more painful in my experience! either way intervet solution stings like a SOB!

That is why i use B-12.

[Drummer]

im used to pregnyl, which was smooth as ice. But thanx for all the input, i am going to try IM, quads, 25 guage 1" (im lean there). I want the fast absorption.

~D~

[Mr Ontario]

How much you putting in there? 5000ius?


im used to pregnyl, which was smooth as ice. But thanx for all the input, i am going to try IM, quads, 25 guage 1" (im lean there). I want the fast absorption.

~D~

[waderow]

if you're using a regular syringe (25ga) I would be diluting the hell out of the hormone so the left over amount in the needle is not very concentrated.

You should be using a one piece slin pin and wastage will be nil.

[theboss]

That is why i use B-12.

word

[Big D]

word

you guys mix your hcg with b-12 instead of bac water ?

[Solo59]

you guys mix your hcg with b-12 instead of bac water ?

bump

Solo

[wan2lrn]

Another bump. I have always used bac water.

[theboss]

yeah bro...B12 for me

[Drummer]

i can use a 30 guage slin needle if i want. They are only .4 inch tho. I have 27 guage .5 inch too. Its intravet. Im going to use 500iu ED, i have 10,000IU. Perhaps the slin needles will do best, ill just find a very lean spot and dimple it into the muscle.

~D~

[RagingRandy]

This is not related to BBs but it does seem that IM is the better choice.

BACKGROUND: Obese women require higher gonadotrophin doses for ovarian stimulation and to trigger ovulation. The bioavailability of a drug is affected by its route of administration. Herein, the bioavailability of hCG was compared after intramuscular (i.m.) or subcutaneous (s.c.) injection in obese and non-obese women. METHODS: Twenty four Chinese women, 12 with a body mass index (BMI) >=28 kg/m2 and 12 with a BMI of 20–25 kg/m2 were recruited as the obese and non-obese groups respectively. A single hCG injection was given intramuscularly on one occasion, and subcutaneously on a second occasion, separated by 4 weeks. Blood samples were taken at intervals for the pharmacokinetic study of hCG. RESULTS: Examination of the hCG plasma concentration–time curve showed the area under the curve (AUC) and maximum concentration (Cmax) of hCG to be significantly higher after i.m. injection than after s.c. injection in both the obese and non-obese groups. However, the AUC and Cmax values in obese women were significantly lower than in non-obese women, irrespective of whether i.m. or s.c. dosing was employed. CONCLUSIONS: Intramuscular dosing of hCG provided better bioavailability than s.c. dosing, but bioavailability was significantly less in obese women than in non-obese women.

[theboss]

i can use a 30 guage slin needle if i want. They are only .4 inch tho. I have 27 guage .5 inch too. Its intravet. Im going to use 500iu ED, i have 10,000IU. Perhaps the slin needles will do best, ill just find a very lean spot and dimple it into the muscle.

~D~


thats too much.

500iu E3D

[ironwill]

thats too much.

500iu E3D

that is what i would advise......:)
500 per day is overkill, it has a 2-3 day active half life i believe....
you know your stuff though drummer, so im sure you did your research bro..

[Drummer]

The reason for the 500iu every day is so it builds up to a certain level for pct, with its 2-3 day life. If i were to use while in cycle, i would go with the e3d to prevent atrophy. But in PCT, the short higher blast is more effective at jumpstarting my shrunken buddies. Its actually at the low end of recommended PCT. I am always cautious tho, because of the permanent damage you can do with HCG to the leydig cells, to use nolvadex as a way of helping protect me. I will keep you guys posted on how it goes, ive never used aromasin before.

~D~

[theboss]

oh..and for the other question about IM or SUBQ..........go deep.