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spitfire
24-04-2009, 04:43 AM
Does anybody have one? I got asked a few times about it and have no clue.

Rambo_84
24-04-2009, 06:01 AM
What are you asking exactly? I ****ing hate M1T....As powerful as it is, you might as well have a backup liver on hand....This oral needs to dissapear.

spitfire
24-04-2009, 06:04 AM
Something like the AAS profiles. A full explanation of what it is.

ezturbo
24-04-2009, 08:10 AM
Stay away. Poison. Gives noobs the wrong impressions on true aas, there effects, risks, everything. My buddy toook it for two weeks, no word of a lie this was a jacked dude, now he's got gigantic puffy nipples. That shit gets your body ready to be a mommy, stay away. Halotestin and cheque drops are a better choice for toxicity, but ****, don't you love needles? **** some injectable m1t would be ****ing wickkkkkked.

L3
24-04-2009, 09:35 AM
m1t is good to go if used responsibly

hyperlite32
24-04-2009, 10:18 AM
m1t is good to go if used responsibly

I agree, M1T is either you love it or hate it. It should be run with test and a AI... It is a hell of a mass builder with awsome strength gains, but the sides can be pretty harsh.

There are ALOT better chioces for sure!

hyperlite32
24-04-2009, 10:21 AM
Found this for ya, by RRadam:

1. What is methyl-1testosterone?

Well, the simple answer is that it is 1-testosterone with a 17aa methylation. To go more in depth, I will explain what 1-testosterone is.

1-testosterone is a bit of a misnomer, in that, it isn’t directly related to testosterone; while they share similar characteristics chemically speaking, 1-testosterone is more closely related to boldenone (equipoise). In fact, 1-testosterone is the 5-alpha reduced version of boldenone (the same thing that turns testosterone into DHT - causing prostate and hair loss issues, among other androgenic side effects.) However, boldenone isn’t as androgenic as testosterone, so its 5alpha-reduced version isn’t as androgenic as dht, though it does seem to be more active than dht. Technically, 1-testosterone is really dihydroboldenone (dhb). This makes it very similar to primobolan and stenbolone, in that both primobolan and stenbolone are DHB with a 1-methyl and 2-methyl group attached, to make it more orally bioavailable.

2. Ok, so 1-test is really dhb, so what about m1t?

Well, when you add a 17alpha-alkylation to boldenone, you get the popular steroid dianabol (methandrostenolone). So adding the 17aa to 1-testosterone would make m1t the 5alpha reduced version of dbol, which is actually more potent and active than dbol itself. Since dbol does not bind well to the 5alpha reductase enzyme, there is a rather small amount of dbol converted into m1t.

3. Does m1t convert into estrogen?

No, the fact that it is 5alpha reduced prevents this.

4. So that means I can't get gyno from m1t.

No, gyno is a rather common side effect of m1t, while the 5alpha reduction should prevent the aromatization into estrogen; no studies have shown this to be the case. It is more likely that m1t gyno is progesterone or prolactin induced. Nolvadex should still help prevent/alleviate any gyno symptoms. Supplementation with vitamin B6 @ 300mg a day may also prove useful.

5. Will m1t make my hair fall out?

It can - m1t is very androgenic, which can lead to many androgenic side effects such as acceleration of male pattern baldness, benign prostate hypertrophy, acne, and aggression. Finasteride (propecia) would have no effect on this; the only solution would to use a topical agent such as spironolactone, minoxodil, azelaic acid, or nizoral shampoo.

6. Are there any other side effects?

Yes, many people report bad bloating from m1t - the cause is unknown, but I could speculate that it is due to progesteronic activity. Many others report moderate to severe back cramping/tightness. Supplementation with taurine and potassium can help alleviate this side effect. Shut down of the HPTA is severe with m1t, so using testosterone or 4ad along with m1t would be advisable to prevent loss of libido. HCG would also be recommended during the cycle to prevent testicular atrophy. Lethargy is another side effect of m1t, the cause of this is unknown, but it is often reported. High blood pressure is one other major side effect of m1t. The increase in bp often causes headaches. Supplementation with hawthorn berry, garlic and/or celery extract should help alleviate some of these sides. M1t is 17alpha-alkylated, making it very harsh on the liver, so ideally your liver values should be checked before, during and after the cycle. Supplementation with alpha lipoic acid and milk thistle can help prevent liver damage. Other methylated substances SHOULD NOT be taken concurrently with m1t.

7. This stuff sounds nasty, why would anyone take it?

Well, because it is a very potent mass builder. It is without a doubt the most potent legal mass builder out there. So some people will risk the sides, to get big.

8. Is 6oxo enough for pct?

No, you should pct with nolva or clomid. 6oxo simply won’t cut it.

9. How do I cycle this stuff?

Well, it is recommended you run some form of compound that will convert to testosterone or testosterone itself. Here is the most common m1t stack:

Weeks 1-2 10mg m1t, 400-600mg 4ad (transdermally) (1500mg orally) a day

weeks 3-4 400-600mg 4ad (transdermally) (1500mg orally) a day * Note, some people run pct during these weeks, but it is likely not a good idea, since you wont have time to fully recover, and will just be shut down again soon.

Weeks 5-6 10mg m1t, 400-600mg 4ad (transdermally) (1500mg orally) a day

pct - nolva 40/40/20/20 (4 weeks) or clomid (3 weeks) 300 day one, 100 10 days, 50 10 days.

10. What is the half life of m1t?

Well, the active life is speculated to be around 12 hours. Though, I believe it to be at least 48 hours. There have been no tests to my knowledge to confirm or deny one way or the other, but from personal experience, m1t seems to last a couple days after your last dosage. Also, one could speculate that since m1t is a dbol derivative, its active life would be similar – around 9 hours or so. So this is definitely up in the air.

11.Will I lose all my gains after a cycle?

Not if you do proper pct and continue to train and eat properly after your cycle. Though, you will probably lose a few pounds of water after your cycle, this is expected.


12. What are the reccomended dosages?

Most people should start off with 10mg a day. Listen to your body and adjust the dosages as you see fit. The dosage should never exceed 20mg a day, unless liver values are closely monitored. Dosages of 40mg are not unheard of, but not recommended.

13. How long can I run m1t?

Most people prefer the 2on/2off/2on routine, but you could run it for 4 weeks straight. It should not be taken for more than 6 weeks straight.

14. How much can I gain on m1t?

If your diet and workout is in check, you could gain up to 20lbs in 4 weeks. The results will vary, but 10-20lbs is the most common. Keep in mind that some of this weight is likely water, and will probably be lost in pct – the lean gains should be kept though.

15. Can I run m1t with my cutting cycle?

You can – though m1t builds mass very well and quickly, so it is better suited for bulking, but remember, diet determines whether you cut or bulk. .

OntariOMuscle101
24-04-2009, 10:32 AM
Does M1T come in injectable?

#8
24-04-2009, 10:37 AM
M1T is dirty stuff. Not worth the health risks IMO.

nitrous
24-04-2009, 10:39 AM
Does M1T come in injectable?

no it does not.. in fact it is what makes it oral that gives it a lot of the properties it has..

as far as a guide to using it this is the one you should check out:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=420872

but like everyone has already said you feel like shit on it.. not to mention how hard it is on the body in many bad ways.. there are better choices

Blitz-Test
24-04-2009, 10:59 AM
Everyone saying its garbage and it kills your liver, have you actually used it? or are you just repeating what others have said?

Almost all my workout partners have used it in combination with testosterone and other things... And all have absolutely loved it ive seen it ran from 20-60mg/ed

I ran it at 40mg/ed and got a liver profile check done 1 week post and my liver had absolutely no problems.....

theboss
24-04-2009, 11:02 AM
no it does not.. in fact it is what makes it oral that gives it a lot of the properties it has..

as far as a guide to using it this is the one you should check out:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=420872

but like everyone has already said you feel like shit on it.. not to mention how hard it is on the body in many bad ways.. there are better choices

pretty sure there was inj. M1T in the past.....

Blitz-Test
24-04-2009, 11:20 AM
pretty sure there was inj. M1T in the past.....

1-test-cypionate... is that what you mean

nitrous
24-04-2009, 11:27 AM
Everyone saying its garbage and it kills your liver, have you actually used it? or are you just repeating what others have said?

Almost all my workout partners have used it in combination with testosterone and other things... And all have absolutely loved it ive seen it ran from 20-60mg/ed

I ran it at 40mg/ed and got a liver profile check done 1 week post and my liver had absolutely no problems.....

yes i ran it.. not only did i run it but i gave my input on that m1t guide i posted when it was created.. i've said in a few posts on here that i ran it at 10mg ED for 30 days.. i got great muscle gain.. bench went up like 40lbs and i kept a lot of the strength and size gains.. (obviously not all)..

i also felt like shit on it.. couldnt do cardio because my legs pumped up with blood so much it would hurt.. just all around sort of felt toxic on it..

comparing it to anavar for example.. anavar i had the same strength gain.. not as much size gain.. felt great on it.. could run it for longer.. no problems at all doing cardio so lots some fat and gained size..


overall do i think m1t is that bad.. no.. do i think it is a great choice for someone to run the first time and have to actually ask for things like a profile on it.. no i truly believe there are better options.. would i run it again? well i have some laying around that i have had for like 4 years probably now.. who knows maybe...

nitrous
24-04-2009, 11:31 AM
1-test-cypionate... is that what you mean

yeah 1-test has been injectable.. not m1-t as far as i know..

it becomes methylated to pass through the liver more freely without degredation and that change in the molecule causes it to act differently in the body

BigWheel
24-04-2009, 12:27 PM
A well known lab used to carry a cyclodextrin based form of m1t and from what I heard it was pretty bad ass.

ezturbo
24-04-2009, 05:11 PM
Everyone saying its garbage and it kills your liver, have you actually used it? or are you just repeating what others have said?

Almost all my workout partners have used it in combination with testosterone and other things... And all have absolutely loved it ive seen it ran from 20-60mg/ed

I ran it at 40mg/ed and got a liver profile check done 1 week post and my liver had absolutely no problems.....

It was the first thing I ever ran bro. I got a bleeding nose everyday for like a week, and I pissed black shit. My buddy was taking it and blacked out all the time, and another one got gigantic nipples. There is to much unknown about that stuff, there is a reason the research surrounding it was dropped, scientists knew it had no potential.

Rambo_84
24-04-2009, 05:12 PM
I actually ran it too...for two weeks at 30mg/ED. My gains were good but it wasnt worth it at all, I felt like crap, it was hard to eat, I was always tired. Does it work....absolutely. Is it worth the gains....not a chance. M1T was the first thing I ever tried. I would tell anyone interested in M1T just go with a simple Test cycle (if its their first cycle)

Blitz-Test
24-04-2009, 05:55 PM
It was the first thing I ever ran bro. I got a bleeding nose everyday for like a week, and I pissed black shit. My buddy was taking it and blacked out all the time, and another one got gigantic nipples. There is to much unknown about that stuff, there is a reason the research surrounding it was dropped, scientists knew it had no potential.

yet we all still worship tren lol

Piss complete orange,
Insomnia,
Tren Cough,
Chest Pressure,
Gyno that SERMs and AIs cant take care of, Caber works but sometimes hit or miss,
Past Tren Hex for like 2 minutes before we found out it was complete poison, and has no human potential
Cardiovascular function goes to the shitter,

Guess with these strong steroids, there future all lays in the hands on internet forum parrots...

Kilburn
24-04-2009, 05:59 PM
i used sa m1t, good stuff, good pumps, good strength.

maybe it wasnt actually m1t tho cause i didnt notice too many sides. anadrol was far worse as far as sides.

spitfire
30-04-2009, 12:11 AM
thanks for all the info guys

chan_ho_nam
30-04-2009, 04:32 AM
no it does not.. in fact it is what makes it oral that gives it a lot of the properties it has..

as far as a guide to using it this is the one you should check out:
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=420872

but like everyone has already said you feel like shit on it.. not to mention how hard it is on the body in many bad ways.. there are better choices

Actualy 9* used to make a cyclodextrin injectable of M1T, burns like a mother but damn powerful. 10mg injectable was IMO just as effective as 20mg oral. I miss those days.

bigdill1234
09-04-2012, 06:29 PM
what are some better choices and what are the risks of m1t's ?

cog
09-04-2012, 08:14 PM
Raw eggs.

YYZgeddylee
10-04-2012, 01:09 PM
Raw eggs.


M1T + raw eggs ?? lolz

cog
10-04-2012, 02:52 PM
M1T + raw eggs ?? lolz
Just the raw free range eggs lol.Why walk around feeling like you're on chemo from that M1T?

wmk
24-08-2012, 06:39 PM
Does anybody have one? I got asked a few times about it and have no clue.

I could never run the stuff. The back pumps and pain were so intense that after about 7 days of trying it two different times I had to quit as I couldn't walk more than 100 steps with out wanting to sit down. I will stick with injections.

dtman
17-06-2013, 09:27 AM
what are some better choices and what are the risks of m1t's ?

Dbol seems comparable in my experience. I ran M1t a few times at 10mg ED and the sides were similar but milder to those described. Great gains but very hard to keep.