m1t - safe or not?

[bountyhunter]

Hello,
I have a question about a product that I want to try. M1T, aka Methyl 1-testosterone, or 17aa-1-testosterone. I have heard it is a powerful oral steroid to be taken in short cycles. However I have read on other forums that the side effects outweigh the gains i.e extreme testicular shrinking (clomid and nolva can fix this I hear), "super fun" mood swings, aggression, depression, fatigue and laziness and lower back pain ( which is associated with most orals I hear) and the dreaded dead sex drive. I am not a bodybuilder, I am a kick-boxer trying to change weight class with low body fat and lasting results. I am 22 years old, 6F 4" 190lbs. my goal is 210. I already take supplements such as protein and vitamin packs with enzymes, amino acids, omegas etc. Is this the right product for me? I lift heavy 5 days a week and do cardio 5 days as well. I don't want to take something that will make me a big lazy moody bastard. Has anyone here tried this? It's big in Gatineau.

[nitrous]

a lot of people say it is too hard on you for the gains you get..

personally i have done it.. 10mg a day for 30 days.. i got super strong.. super quick.. a lot of size gains.. but how hard was it on my liver who knows.. i know personally of guys that have taken it for longer periods of time and had nipple lactation and ended up in the hospital because their liver almost failed.. of course they were drinking heavily on it and doing higher dosages..

in my opinion if you are a kick-boxer i wouldnt bother with doing it because of the pumps i got from it.. became too much to do proper cardio without it beginning to hurt too much.. if you would like to go the AAS route there are better options..

[Blitz-Test]

M1T is my favourite Oral Roid... Along with Test ofcourse...

I ran 40mg/ed for 4 weeks, and loved every minute of it

[giannos]

Poison in a bottle... Garbage

[Rambo_84]

Stay away from this shit man...I ran 30mg/day, and it was ****ing brutal. I got the shakes and sweats really bad off it one night, almost scared to going to the hospital. This shit isnt the worth the gains...go with something else.

[bountyhunter]

Well it seems there is a love/hate relationship for this product. I'll try out 10mg a day for a week first, then maybe boost it to 20mg for 2 more weeks then 2 off and I'll let you guys know my input...if i survive.....lol. Maybe 30mg a day was too much rambo. It's supposed to be stronger than most orals I hear. I won't be running test E.

[Rambo_84]

Everyone reacts differently...give it a shot. I started out at 10mg week one too, wasnt too bad at that dose. Let us know it goes!

[gustavo77]

I won't be running test E.

Wow, that does not sound like fun with M1T...you know how i know this?? I tried it once upon a time...sucked bro...felt like shit, shut down...libido gone... That stuff is extremely toxic and highly suppressive... i would definitely reconsider bro.

[bountyhunter]

Well I can't say you didn't warn me. I'm planning to start Monday. should I pick up some test 400? How should I combine the two? I've never mixed. and should I cut out the Creatine?

[Blitz-Test]

Well I can't say you didn't warn me. I'm planning to start Monday. should I pick up some test 400? How should I combine the two? I've never mixed. and should I cut out the Creatine?

lol creatine keep it running...

Get a bottle of T400 and run

Test 400mg/week 1-10
M1T 1-4

[cog]

a lot of people say it is too hard on you for the gains you get..

personally i have done it.. 10mg a day for 30 days.. i got super strong.. super quick.. a lot of size gains.. but how hard was it on my liver who knows.. i know personally of guys that have taken it for longer periods of time and had nipple lactation and ended up in the hospital because their liver almost failed.. of course they were drinking heavily on it and doing higher dosages..

in my opinion if you are a kick-boxer i wouldnt bother with doing it because of the pumps i got from it.. became too much to do proper cardio without it beginning to hurt too much.. if you would like to go the AAS route there are better options..

High doses of orals and drinking heavily...brain dead.

[tex]

dude....you were complaining about the sides from sust and now you want to jump on m1t?! are you for real?? come on bro...baby steps....

[C-money]

i love M1T, sick strength gains/size gains, the only side i got was lower back pumps

[arcnspark77]

i've used it quite a bit, i swear i could feel my liver hurting when i first got on, kind of just an uncomfortable feeling in my lower back. also i started to get headaches anytime i exerted myself (at work and gym) probably from high blood pressure? if i tryed to run it for longer than around 3 weeks. i did however get decent gains everytime both in size and strength.

[tex]

i've used it quite a bit, i swear i could feel my liver hurting when i first got on, kind of just an uncomfortable feeling in my lower back.
dude....the liver is upper right side of your ribcage....you just had lower back pump :)

[Chaps]

It's not worth it! I had insane lower back pumps they crippled me, i couldn't squat or deadlift, i even had to sit down between sets of curls! Headaches, lethargy, sex drive went down big time, as did appetite, mood was rocky. It's just not worth it ya the gains are friggin explosive as hell but it's hell to be on.

[arcnspark77]

dude....the liver is upper right side of your ribcage....you just had lower back pump :)

lol i'm an idiot. didnt feel like a normal pump though. why the hell does it do that??

[Avitoholis]

lol i'm an idiot. didnt feel like a normal pump though. why the hell does it do that??

Retaining water in lower back because of a messed up sodium/potassium balance....possibly.