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DVS333
23-04-2009, 11:15 PM
Hey, I am planning on starting my first Test E cycle soon. I'm just wondering what the normal cycle would consist of.
I have done a bit of research but everyone's opinion seems to vary.
My cycle would look roughly like this:
Week 1-12 700mg Test E once a week.
Week 1-3 25mg D bol ED.
Week 9-12 40mg Winny ED.

Arimidex on hand in case of any problems.
Clomid for PCT.

Im 22 years old, lifting 3 years. 185lbs 6' 10.45 % BF. Lift 5 days a week, Cardio for at least 2.
My diet is very clean. I plan most my meals around Canada's food guide with the exception that I have upped my protein intake to around 180g-200g per day. My goals are to reach 190-195 and keep my body fat percentage where it is. I want to gain a bit of size but keep the water retention low.

Currently on week 4.5 of xxx Anavar and liking the results so far. Strength increase is minimal but vascularity and definition is way up. Also cut 1.5% BF.

My questions are;
1) How does my planned cycle look?
2) What changes should I make to my diet/work out plan if any?
3) My supplier has xxx and xxx, just wondering if given the choice what most people prefer.
4) Do I need to take Arimidex during the cycle to prevent test conversion to estrogen. If so what are the recommended dosages ?

Thanks for your help and any other suggestions are greatly appreciated!

rickyboy36
23-04-2009, 11:28 PM
Looks pretty good bro except id run 500mgs instead.No need to go that high.There wont be a major difference on you first cycle.Save "more" for "later" so to speak

The winny id run it 11-14 weeks instead,and then start PCT on week 15.This way your crash is less harsh.I dont think you need an antiestrogen unless of course you get itchy nips.Just have it on hand just in case

If your diet is good,expect between 12-20lbs of muscle bro

gustavo77
23-04-2009, 11:55 PM
1) I would do that cycle like this:

1-12 Test E 500mg/wk (250mg 2x per wk ie. mon/thurs)
3-6 d-bol 20-25mg/day (2 hrs pre-WO)
10-13 winny 50mg/day

PCT starts 14 days after last test shot... 3 weeks of clomid 50mg/day, 5 weeks of aromasin 25mg/day. You can even run the winny up until 1-2 days before you start pct.

2) Increase your protein to 300grams per day...spread that over 6-8 meals.

3) Both are great labs, go with which is more cost effective for you.

4) I use adex, i know many that don;t...you really will not know if you need it or not till a few weeks into your cycle... but i would get some and have it on hand just in case.

tex
23-04-2009, 11:57 PM
^^ do what he said.....id lose the winny tho....but i'm a 30 yr old with hurtin tendons....

DVS333
24-04-2009, 08:02 AM
Thanks for the input guys.

I was going to add in winny to try to keep the gains lean.

As for xxx vs xxx, I have used both of thier anavars on this cycle im on now and I was less than impressed with xxx. But from the research I have done apparently a few people dont like xxx.



Gustavo-
I was planning on taking the D bol to jump start my cycle, just out of curiosity why should I start it on week 3 rather than week 1 ?

Iwant2Grow
25-04-2009, 03:53 PM
1) I would do that cycle like this:

1-12 Test E 500mg/wk (250mg 2x per wk ie. mon/thurs)
3-6 d-bol 20-25mg/day (2 hrs pre-WO)
10-13 winny 50mg/day

PCT starts 14 days after last test shot... 3 weeks of clomid 50mg/day, 5 weeks of aromasin 25mg/day. You can even run the winny up until 1-2 days before you start pct.

2) Increase your protein to 300grams per day...spread that over 6-8 meals.

3) Both are great labs, go with which is more cost effective for you.

4) I use adex, i know many that don;t...you really will not know if you need it or not till a few weeks into your cycle... but i would get some and have it on hand just in case.

Right on


fyi starting the dbol later will make it more effective for you as it will be kicking in when your test does for synergistic effect