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Sleeping_Giant
22-04-2009, 10:43 AM
Hey guys, I'm wanting to cut for the summer and a friend as introduced me to some clen. What would you guys suggest ? also I've heard that it works wonders if you stack it with a test... so I was thinking maybe clen + m1t or something along those lines..

give me your thoughts !

rickyboy36
22-04-2009, 10:46 AM
Hey guys, I'm wanting to cut for the summer and a friend as introduced me to some clen. What would you guys suggest ? also I've heard that it works wonders if you stack it with a test... so I was thinking maybe clen + m1t or something along those lines..

give me your thoughts !

Start off slow bro cause the effects my be untolerable for you.I'd go with 25mgs a shot then ramp slowly up to no more than 150mgs a day.More than that you might waste muscle.I do a 2 weeks on...2 weeks off.Drung your off days you can take ephedrine.But remember its your diet that will give you the best results.Are you cutting with some kind of anabolic?

Socially_Inept
22-04-2009, 10:56 AM
clen is great for quick fat loss, i've done more then a few cycles of it in the past but i personally avoid it now and stick with the slow and steady route. clen is very hard on the heart, and the cramping and headaches i get from it are just terrible.

Sleeping_Giant
22-04-2009, 11:32 AM
Start off slow bro cause the effects my be untolerable for you.I'd go with 25mgs a shot then ramp slowly up to no more than 150mgs a day.More than that you might waste muscle.I do a 2 weeks on...2 weeks off.Drung your off days you can take ephedrine.But remember its your diet that will give you the best results.Are you cutting with some kind of anabolic?

no anabolics yet... i just might jump on it with a cycle of m1t, do you think thats a good idea or.... ?

natenator
22-04-2009, 11:34 AM
no anabolics yet... i just might jump on it with a cycle of m1t, do you think thats a good idea or.... ?
no, not as good idea at all but you'll probably do it anyway.

rickyboy36
22-04-2009, 11:39 AM
no anabolics yet... i just might jump on it with a cycle of m1t, do you think thats a good idea or.... ?

Not a good idea bro..that shit kills the liver.Plus you should be taking test to help preserve muscle.If you really reall one to do an oral only cycle and dont care about your libido,then maybe you can do some winstrol at 50mgs a day.You'll dry up,you'll preserve muscle,but your joints might ache.No more than 6-8 weeks of this oral.But again,test is best

BritishColumbian
22-04-2009, 12:22 PM
Start off slow bro cause the effects my be untolerable for you.

Hehe, ya I made it a whole 2 days, whew...it was a wild ride. :beer

nitrous
22-04-2009, 12:26 PM
ya if you are going to do clen take low dosages.. personally i'd start at 10mcg's twice a day and go up from there..


but honestly i wouldnt add m1t in it and i wouldnt even recommend you do clen... test and anavar or even just test i bet would do good with the right diet and cardio

Adonis13
22-04-2009, 12:37 PM
listen to these guys, m1t is not going to be productive. take the clen with a clean diet and make sure that ur getting lots of water, a gallon a day is good. 2 weeks on 2 weeks off then repeat. whats ur body fat at right now?

Big D
22-04-2009, 01:01 PM
m1t + Clen ......... lol

AlbertaBeef
22-04-2009, 01:03 PM
Just run the clen and because of it characteristics keep your protein intake high. Don't beleive the bro-telligence that says clen is anti catabolic. If you must, run a low dose of test and stay away from the M1T, you'll blow up on it most likely and be a shaky, cranky bitch around everyone.

grifter
22-04-2009, 03:16 PM
I like the clen pump more than the pills. Personal choice. Although the pills are a little easier to take with you. Be prepared for the shakes, sweating, and cramping. I remember taking the pump during the summer. I was working in a air conditioned room and still had sweat running down my back, and to write anything, forget it. My hand writing looked worse than a primary kids. I didn't get any headaches though.