12 weeks of test almost done..want to cut up

[DFA_DFA]

Well im going for a "trip" next weekend to a "friends" to get my post cycle stuff..but cus im driving there im getting everything for so cheap that I should really take advantage if it.

so I was thinking of getting some clen..but a few people have told me clen can make you lose alot of cycle gains if taken post cycle.

then I was reading up on guys who take anavar after a test cycle to cut up and taper it down for 4 weeks..

anyway what would be some good options for me I can pretty much get my hands on anything...or should I just jump into a normal PCT and not do any more drugs.

[deleteduser0001]

i get great strength off of clen but it makes me crave carbs so bad. I used it post cycle one, wouldn't do it again, I had enough problems being a whiny bitch but being a crappy whiny bitch just made it worse.

[xtr3m3m3t4l]

How were your gains? Size and strength ?

[waderow]

i personally think clen is over rated. T3 works best for me, or just plain old diet and cardio. As far as muscle loss? Nutrician is your best friend.

[DFA_DFA]

How were your gains? Size and strength ?

really good gained 20lbs.. once I hit just over 200lbs I really cleaned up my diet and kept my weight around the same trying to lean out abit while strength just kept going up.. Haven't felt anything for negative sides except SAL T400 pains.


i personally think clen is over rated. T3 works best for me, or just plain old diet and cardio. As far as muscle loss? Nutrician is your best friend.

Yeah im going to keep my cals cranked for PCT..

im just wondering if it would be a bad idea to extend the cycle longer with an oral like whinney or var to cut...or to get some clen going I cant get T3

[nitrous]

if it was me i'd add in var and change my diet and cardio to cut.. but thats just me

[rickyboy36]

Bro...i need to know something here.By reading your post i saw you gained 20lbs!I gather this must be your first cycle.If it is,let me just say this:If you diet now you will lose ALL YOUR GAINS.You cannot go from a bulk where you gained a shitload of muscle and then cut.YOur body needs to get accustomed to your gains.That means you need to keep this same weight on a couple of months so your body accepts it.Right now,you just gave your body something it didnt want which is extra weight and muscle.Its fighting for his life so to speak and if you cut down on calories now,it will use all your muscle for fuel.I SWEAR!!Of course there will be probably a guy or two who will say they did it.Dont listen to them cause its either a lie..or they have really really good genetics

In most cases when people go from a bulk to a cut they had only gained maybe 4-8lbs..and in many cases this is the scenario with second time users.A cut in this case is more acceptable as long as you UP your doses and and introduce other anabolics.Bro,trust me on this one!!!

[Iwant2Grow]

Way to go DFA good gains on your cycle !

i´m going to be in a similar situation and will have to do some leaning out by the end of my cycle . @ the end of my cycle it will be 15 weeks(first cycle)

Ricky boy makes a interesting point ... about your body having to adapt to the new weight first ...

it would be great to hear some more input on how to do this correctly

[Solo59]

You'll cut up pretty good just by keeping up your workouts and lean eating habits as you go into PCT. If you don't mind extending your cycle (and who does?:rolleyes:), then running Var is good idea for lean & mean. So is Tren ace, of course!

Solo

[DFA_DFA]

You'll cut up pretty good just by keeping up your workouts and lean eating habits as you go into PCT. If you don't mind extending your cycle (and who does?:rolleyes:), then running Var is good idea for lean & mean. So is Tren ace, of course!

Solo

I got no problem extending my cycle a few week...and thanks to everyones advice.. im not going to cut cals just clean them up. Pretty sure im going to run Var at 20-40mg aday. for a few weeks

[Houstonbc]

20 wont do **** all id go 60

[DFA_DFA]

20 wont do **** all id go 60

what about 50 days at 20mg?

[nitrous]

i've done 20mg a day for a week before i upped it to 40mg a day which i carried on with for 9 weeks (so 10 in total).. 20 will do a bit but i dont think it would be worth it.. i would double it at least..

next time i do var i'm probably gonna go at least 60mg ed

[Houstonbc]

20mg is not worth it for a 200 pound male
I know girls who do that much at 130 lbs